China remains a threat to Taiwan - Trump is trying to prepare but the disloyal democrats are not cooperating

[JoeB131]

China is the one who can prevent this. China cannot project force beyond the horizon now.......let alone when a major piece of their hydroelectric capability and bread basket are wiped out.

Um, no, stupid.

China is asserting its authority over Taiwan, which OUR OWN GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES AS BEING CHINESE TERRITORY!!!

I'm going to repeat that for you, because you are ******* stupid. OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS A ONE-CHINA POLICY THAT RECOGNIZES TAIWAN AS PART OF CHINA.

By stupid enough, THEY WERE THE GOVERNMENT IN AFGHANISTAN.

Should have hit them with 17 gigatons of fusion bombs on 9/12.

And yes, I said GIGATONS.

NO, that would have been really stupid.

Frankly, all you idiots who talk about nuking China or Afghanistan or Venezuela because our conventional forces are kind of impotent, really do scare me.

 

[skews13]

the left is allied with their tyrannical CCP allies .. communism is sweeping the dem party !

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So you're going to enlist and go fight the communist threat, right?

 

[JoeB131]

That was a domestic issue involving soft-on-communism libs in the State Dept

Some things never change

Such as Jimmy Carter losing the Panama Canal and Iran is the same 4 year span

Libs have a hard time distinguishing our allies from our enemies

Jimmy Carter didn't "lose" the Panama Canal. Jimmy Carter returned the Canal Zone under a 25 year agreement to return it to it's rightful owners. Duh.

The Canal Zone was kind of indefensible if the Panamanians told us to leave. the dictator at the time said he would destroy the Canal if we didn't return it.

So we were going to go to war to impose ourselves on a country that didn't want us.

Not that it matters. With global warming drying up the rivers that feed the Canal, it will be useless in a few decades.

By then, China will have dug a new sea level canal in Nicaragua.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Um, no, stupid.

China is asserting its authority over Taiwan, which OUR OWN GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES AS BEING CHINESE TERRITORY!!!

I'm going to repeat that for you, because you are ******* stupid. OUR OWN GOVERNMENT HAS A ONE-CHINA POLICY THAT RECOGNIZES TAIWAN AS PART OF CHINA.



NO, that would have been really stupid.

Frankly, all you idiots who talk about nuking China or Afghanistan or Venezuela because our conventional forces are kind of impotent, really do scare me.

Wrong

The U.S. severed official ties with Taipei in 1979 but is bound by law to provide the island with the means to defend itself.

The U.S. officially takes no position on Taiwan's sovereignty under Washington's "One China" policy.

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2025-12-29/explainer-what-is-taiwan-independence-and-is-taiwan-already-independent

 

[skews13]

Get real man. No country can fight a war with one hand tied by the opposing party. US doesn’t have to set foot in China. Several Trident class submarines can level Beijing within minutes.

China knows that invading Taiwan will draw US, Japan, N and S Korea, Philippines, and possibly Australia in the war. Should Jim Jong decide to join the war, it would be a guarantee end to his regime. India is itching to gain more of that ongoing disputed territory. I doubt China can fight all these countries at the same time. Uncle Vlad to the rescue, good luck.

And you think that would be the end of it?

You're either very young, or very stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong

The U.S. severed official ties with Taipei in 1979 but is bound by law to provide the island with the means to defend itself.

How is that even logical? We don't recognize your government, but we are going to arm you to the teeth to fight against the government we DO recognize and holds 2 trillion of our debt.

Hey here's how China could truly **** us. Just demand we make good on all of our debt they bought up.

 

[citygator]

I think Trump understands the threat and is prepared to respond

But America is so divided can we beat the chicoms with one hand tied behind our back?

I wish I knew the answer to that

Trump is arguably the dumbest and least educated fool we've ever had in the white house and has surrounded himself with social media celebrities instead of experts. His international policy hurts us everyday he is in office. JD Dunce would be an improvement.

Taiwan relations is a tricky balance beam that requires discipline and nuance. Trump cant spell either word much less display their characteristics.

 

[OODA_Loop]

How is that even logical? We don't recognize your government, but we are going to arm you to the teeth to fight against the government we DO recognize and holds 2 trillion of our debt.

The Taiwan Relations Act (TRA; Pub. L. 96–8, H.R. 2479, 93 Stat. 14

 

[JoeB131]

The Taiwan Relations Act (TRA; Pub. L. 96–8, H.R. 2479, 93 Stat. 14

Go back and read what I said, and then have someone help you with the big words.

How is it logical to arm a province of China against China?

If China started arming Gavin Newsom against Trump, I suspect you'd be upset about that.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Go back and read what I said, and then have someone help you with the big words.

How is it logical to arm a province of China against China?

If China started arming Gavin Newsom against Trump, I suspect you'd be upset about that.

Ask Congress they passed the act.

(b) Policy​

It is the policy of the United States—

(1) to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, as well as the people on the China mainland and all other peoples of the Western Pacific area;

(2) to declare that peace and stability in the area are in the political, security, and economic interests of the United States, and are matters of international concern;

(3) to make clear that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;

(4) to consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States;

(5) to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character; and

(6) to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter48&edition=prelim

 

[Marener]

The Taiwan Relations Act (TRA; Pub. L. 96–8, H.R. 2479, 93 Stat. 14

I don’t see how anything in this bill will force Trump to do anything he doesn’t want to do.

Laws don’t mean much anymore.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Frankly, all you idiots who talk about nuking China or Afghanistan or Venezuela because our conventional forces are kind of impotent, really do scare me.

Good. Thats the damn point. US policy should be: if you attack the US, we nuke you and everyone you know.

 

[JoeB131]

Ask Congress they passed the act.

I'm not asking Congress, I'm asking you why you think it's a good idea to get involved in China's internal affairs.

Good. Thats the damn point. US policy should be: if you attack the US, we nuke you and everyone you know.

No, that would be stupid if everyone else has nukes, too.

 

[OODA_Loop]

I'm not asking Congress, I'm asking you why you think it's a good idea to get involved in China's internal affairs.

To protect Taiwan just like Congress who passed the law I posted.

 

[jknowgood]

how? He did exactly what Trump agreed to at Doha.

He pulled out the last troops and left the Afghan Government to its own devices.

He got 13 soldiers killed and made the Taliban one of the best equiped militaries in the world.

 

[JoeB131]

To protect Taiwan just like Congress who passed the law I posted.

Why does that make sense?

We don't recognize a country called "Taiwan", why would we protect it?

He got 13 soldiers killed and made the Taliban one of the best equiped militaries in the world.

No, Trump did that when he sold out the Afghan Government at Doha.

Biden just got stuck with the bill.

Now, I don't actually fault Trump for Doha. The Smarter People he had working for him realized the Afghan Government was never going to be supported by the Afghan People no matter how many trillions we poured into the country.

What I do fault him for was blaming Biden for carrying out his policy, like there would have been any different result.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I'm not asking Congress, I'm asking you why you think it's a good idea to get involved in China's internal affairs.


No, that would be stupid if everyone else has nukes, too.

Afghanistan didn't. And it assure that we mean it in regards to MAD.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Why does that make sense?

We don't recognize a country called "Taiwan", why would we protect it?

From the

(1) to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, as well as the people on the China mainland and all other peoples of the Western Pacific area;

(3) to make clear that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title22/chapter48&edition=prelim

 

[JoeB131]

From the

(1) to preserve and promote extensive, close, and friendly commercial, cultural, and other relations between the people of the United States and the people on Taiwan, as well as the people on the China mainland and all other peoples of the Western Pacific area;

(3) to make clear that the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;

again, we don't recognize a country called Taiwan, why would we want to do that?

The thing is, we are on shaky legal ground going to war over Taiwan.

We'll also get our asses kicked, which isn't a good look.

 

[OODA_Loop]

again, we don't recognize a country called Taiwan, why would we want to do that?

The U.S. has viewed Taiwan as geostrategically important given its key location in the first island chain. Over the past four decades, the U.S. government's policy of deliberate ambiguity toward Taiwan has been viewed as critical to stabilizing cross-strait relations by seeking to deter the PRC from using force toward the region.