China halts export of rare earthes

[Rambunctious]

Japan thought that way. There is nothing China has that we need to go to war over. At the end of the day, its just business and neither we nor they have a right to trade with the other.

China is pushing for war... I hope it doesn't happen but today's China believes they could beat us... and that's dangerous and the reason why we need to bring our manufacturers back home... and we need to mine for our own rare earth minerals and oil and gas for that matter...

 

[jc456]

You’re a weird little dude aren’t you.

maybe, but he's fking spot on.

 

[jc456]

China is pushing for war... I hope it doesn't happen but today's China believes they could beat us... and that's dangerous and the reason why we need to bring our manufacturers back home... and we need to mine for our own rare earth minerals and oil and gas for that matter...

not if one is a demofk.

 

[progressive hunter]

The answer is to our south.

then why do you work so hard to support china??

 

[otto105]

maybe, but he's fking spot on.

No, no he’s not.

He’s just a weird little dude.

 

[jc456]

No, no he’s not.

He’s just a weird little dude.

Again, maybe, but he's spot on.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

dimocrap scum ALWAYS cheer for anybody and anything that hurts or hates America.

Not throwing spitballs. It is fact. They HATE America and they especially hate Americans.

Just read what they're saying and you can draw no other conclusion.

It's fucking despicable, but Republicans refuse to hold them to account for anything

 

[citygator]

This is all part of the plan! [insert made up excuse but magas here]

 

[citygator]

dimocrap scum ALWAYS cheer for anybody and anything that hurts or hates America.

Not throwing spitballs. It is fact. They HATE America and they especially hate Americans.

Just read what they're saying and you can draw no other conclusion.

We are critical of the person that is personally hurting America for no reason… Trump.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's the problem for China with "bringing down the West." The countries comprising the West are the ones most of China's consumer goods are exported to. Hurting those country's ability to purchase Chinese goods hurts China.

That fact may be about the only saving grace with respect to its ownership of so much of our debt. It could do significant harm to the US should it stop buying and or start selling the debt they hold. It would cause US bond yields to rise, making the issuance of future debt more expensive for us by having to pay a higher interest rate.

But if China breaks us, it essentially breaks itself. Therefore, the Right's hated global economy may be the only thing saving the US from China pulling the proverbial rug out from under us.

China already has 300MM Very Unhappy Citizens, maybe more; escalating the tariff war risks Xi and the CCP's rule

 

[Mac1958]

We are critical of the person that is personally hurting America for no reason… Trump.

In their minds, if you think Trump is hurting America, it can only mean that you support China.

There's just no way to communicate with that.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We are critical of the person that is personally hurting America for no reason… Trump.

$2 Trillion annual deficit, $9 Trillion in debt coming due this year (thanks to Yelling Loon) is "no reason"?

Are you sure?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

In their minds, if you think Trump is hurting America, it can only mean that you support China.

There's just no way to communicate with that.

Just own that you support China, stop pretending

 

[Mac1958]

In their minds, if you think Trump is hurting America, it can only mean that you support China.

There's just no way to communicate with that.

Just own that you support China, stop pretending

And there ya go. Right away.

I do know these people.

 

[Bleipriester]

The question is at what cost. That's a question that never seems to be asked.

We'll see what actually comes to fruition. It will be a while.

It is an investment in the future.

 

[citygator]

$2 Trillion annual deficit, $9 Trillion in debt coming due this year (thanks to Yelling Loon) is "no reason"?

Are you sure?

The budget deficit isn’t related to the trade we do around the world. If you want a more balanced budget let the Trump tax cuts expire. Or give up your social security and healthcare.

 

[Bleipriester]

“Rare earth” really isn’t all that rare.

True. But most of it is not easy to harvest.

 

[Bleipriester]

China has no clout.

Really?

 

[citygator]

Just own that you support China, stop pretending

What do you think about Trump not anticipating the cut off of an irreplaceable input into American goods? What do you think about Trump not aligning the world against China and instead putting America to fight all fronts at once? What do you think about the whipsaw on again off again tariff bluffs? What do you think about the ridiculous non-reciprocal reciprocal tariffs?

If you love America why are you happy Trump is fucking it up?

 

[berg80]

REEs (Rare Earth Element) are only used because they are cheap. That doesn't mean that there are not alternatives.

These REEs magnets all have various properties that we like....mostly remaining magnetic under temperature or environmental extremes.
That doesn't mean that we can't achieve the same effects in other ways. Or that we can't engineer around REEs.
We can dope magnets with other chemicals to achieve similar effects....they cost more. But if it's what is necessary....guess what?

Lithium and it's ionic structures are currently behind most of the current cheap battery technologies. If we get away from using lithium....guess what?
Lithium so far to date is the cheapest vx watt/hr per ounce solution we have. It's not the only solution to stored energy. It uses REEs as well on the cathode and annode terminals until the Lithium cracks.

So....
There ARE alternatives that can be used. Plans have BEEN already made for this undesired eventuality....
But
Whining is free. And if we can get enough people to whine....maybe the big corporate giants won't have to spend money on something other than their bonuses.

China has suspended exports of a wide range of critical minerals and magnets, threatening to choke off supplies of components central to automakers, aerospace manufacturers, semiconductor companies and military contractors around the world.

Shipments of the magnets, essential for assembling everything from cars and drones to robots and missiles, have been halted at many Chinese ports while the Chinese government drafts a new regulatory system. Once in place, the new system could permanently prevent supplies from reaching certain companies, including American military contractors.

The official crackdown is part of China’s retaliation for President Trump’s sharp increase in tariffs that started on April 2.

On April 4, the Chinese government ordered restrictions on the export of six heavy rare earth metals, which are refined entirely in China, as well as rare earth magnets, 90 percent of which are produced in China. The metals, and special magnets made with them, can now be shipped out of China only with special export licenses.

China Halts Critical Rare Earth Exports as Trade War Intensifies

Beijing has suspended exports of certain rare earth minerals and magnets that are crucial for the world’s car, semiconductor and aerospace industries.

www.nytimes.com

The shift to other sources of these metals or other kinds of materials as substitutes will be time consuming, costly, and inflationary. All of which could be avoided but...........Dotard.