XponentialChaos
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I did vote for Biden.
Good job, Trumpster. You decided to abandon your stupid lie and say something truthful that time. That wasn’t so hard now was it?
Chauvin and Systemic Racism
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I did vote for Biden.
Good job, Trumpster. You decided to abandon your stupid lie and say something truthful that time. That wasn’t so hard now was it?
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Getting back to the topic, whether Chauvin is racist or not can not be determined in my opinion.
More importantly, I don’t think it really even matters.
What he did is bad enough. He should be judged on what he did. Not why we THINK he did it.
More importantly, I don’t think it really even matters.
What he did is bad enough. He should be judged on what he did. Not why we THINK he did it.
Call me what you like. I am an Ass. Racist? NFW. Chauvin is a dick but racist? Idk his wife was AsianOK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…www.google.com
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
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this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo)
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
I think a lot of what is called racism is more subtle, subconscious. I am not sure it should be called racism. I see plenty of blatant racism on threads here. But what is more common are subtle things like what happened to Steven Locke.
Or the NYC woman who called in the complaint about the black bird watcher who told her to leash her dog, who maybe never thought of herself as a racist but had no clue what her false complaint could have led to.
Or...the white woman that confronted a black man in her very upper class urban neighborhood carefully painting a black lives matter sign on a stone wall in front of the house. It happened to be his house but she couldn't conceive of the idea a black person would live there.
Totally agree.
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I agree but stereotyping isn’t racismCall me what you like. I am an Ass. Racist? NFW. Chauvin is a dick but racist? Idk his wife was AsianOK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
Coyote
WillHaftawaite
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this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
I think a lot of what is called racism is more subtle, subconscious. I am not sure it should be called racism. I see plenty of blatant racism on threads here. But what is more common are subtle things like what happened to Steven Locke.
Or the NYC woman who called in the complaint about the black bird watcher who told her to leash her dog, who maybe never thought of herself as a racist but had no clue what her false complaint could have led to.
Or...the white woman that confronted a black man in her very upper class urban neighborhood carefully painting a black lives matter sign on a stone wall in front of the house. It happened to be his house but she couldn't conceive of the idea a black person would live there.
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Biden believes America is systematically racist. Are you saying you voted for someone who you don’t agree with? Eh leftist? He he
XponentialChaos
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You voted for Biden who says America is systematically racist. You admitted it. Checkmate, leftist.
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Whatever you need to tell yourself.
I still haven’t even mentioned anything about systemic racism.
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XponentialChaos
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I accept your surrender. As I said checkmate.
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Neat.
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Uh...yea...it is
If I were to say "Jews all are__________" or "Jews all look like______", that's stereotyping and you'd be the first to cry anti-Semitic
Is that different?.
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I agree but stereotyping isn’t racismCall me what you like. I am an Ass. Racist? NFW. Chauvin is a dick but racist? Idk his wife was AsianOK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
Coyote
WillHaftawaite
Meister
this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
I think a lot of what is called racism is more subtle, subconscious. I am not sure it should be called racism. I see plenty of blatant racism on threads here. But what is more common are subtle things like what happened to Steven Locke.
Or the NYC woman who called in the complaint about the black bird watcher who told her to leash her dog, who maybe never thought of herself as a racist but had no clue what her false complaint could have led to.
Or...the white woman that confronted a black man in her very upper class urban neighborhood carefully painting a black lives matter sign on a stone wall in front of the house. It happened to be his house but she couldn't conceive of the idea a black person would live there.
It can be - it kind of depends on how you stereotype some is benign, some malign, some just offensive. It also depends on the intent behind it.
For example the stereotype that African Americans are low-IQ. It's a stereotype that is based in the pre-abolition arguments for justifying slavery, racial stratification, etc.
Or - more specifically - there are stereotypes that are benign like, Jews have big noses, or about Jewish mothers. Then there are those are not like Jews are part of an evil plot to take over the world. In the latter, the intent is to racially denigrate no matter how you put it. I would say that is anti-semitic.
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She's right dude, not a racist but sometimes an A-hole. But seriously, it's is part of your charm and always has been.OK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
Coyote
WillHaftawaite
Meister
this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
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To me, those examples do not fall under the term subliminal, as are to overt, especially coupled with action. The fact that those people never critically self examined does not make it subliminal, nor get them off the hook for being outright, overt racist in word and deed. Deed being a better indicator. Misguided, acts lacking self discipline, due to supposed self empowerment is what got them into trouble.Call me what you like. I am an Ass. Racist? NFW. Chauvin is a dick but racist? Idk his wife was AsianOK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
Coyote
WillHaftawaite
Meister
this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
I think a lot of what is called racism is more subtle, subconscious. I am not sure it should be called racism. I see plenty of blatant racism on threads here. But what is more common are subtle things like what happened to Steven Locke.
Or the NYC woman who called in the complaint about the black bird watcher who told her to leash her dog, who maybe never thought of herself as a racist but had no clue what her false complaint could have led to.
Or...the white woman that confronted a black man in her very upper class urban neighborhood carefully painting a black lives matter sign on a stone wall in front of the house. It happened to be his house but she couldn't conceive of the idea a black person would live there.
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Can be.I agree but stereotyping isn’t racismCall me what you like. I am an Ass. Racist? NFW. Chauvin is a dick but racist? Idk his wife was AsianOK give me one example of me being a racist via my posts.Anything’s possible.Is it possible he was a bad cop but not a racist?Prosecution did a good job of limiting the charges to what they knew they could prove. Maybe he didn't have a social media posting history or US Message board posting history, showing racist remarks. Does not mean it was or wasn't, but by sticking to the easily proved, it was a slam dunk. Over charging and under delivering will sometimes piss a jury off and mess up the whole outcome.If the murder of George Floyd was an example of systemic racism as most of the News Entertainment Media says then why wasn’t Derek Chauvin charged with a hate crime or violation of civil rights?
Is it possible that Chauvin was just a bad cop?
Biden praises Derek Chauvin murder conviction, blames US for ‘systemic racism’
President Biden on Tuesday praised the conviction of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin for murdering George Floyd, but also accused the United States of deep-seated “systemi…
It’s possible that you aren’t a racist asshole, but not likely given your posts
Coyote
WillHaftawaite
Meister
this user just accused me of being a racist. If you agree and can find posts to substantiate that claim please ban me forever.
How is that Lesh? Fair? I ll put my status on this site on the line. Find a post that shows I am a racist and I will be banned.
I don't think you are a racist, haven't seen it....you're just an ass sometimes
(imo
The problem is, like with so many of these discussions - once you start accusing each other of being racist (or any other ists) - the discussion degenerates rapidly into something resembling Jr. High.
So how about we all go back to this question - a good one.
"Is it possible he's a bad cop - not a racist"
Of course it is. But, I'll add - I haven't researched it, I don't know what his attitudes and such towards blacks are. I don't know what the complaints on him were about. He and Floyd apparently worked for a private security company at the same time. What were those interactions like? He is without question a bad cop. And there are without question bad cops who are also racist.
I think a lot of what is called racism is more subtle, subconscious. I am not sure it should be called racism. I see plenty of blatant racism on threads here. But what is more common are subtle things like what happened to Steven Locke.
Or the NYC woman who called in the complaint about the black bird watcher who told her to leash her dog, who maybe never thought of herself as a racist but had no clue what her false complaint could have led to.
Or...the white woman that confronted a black man in her very upper class urban neighborhood carefully painting a black lives matter sign on a stone wall in front of the house. It happened to be his house but she couldn't conceive of the idea a black person would live there.
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Racism is believing someone is beneath you because of their race. If you said Jews like money or have big noses it’s not racism or bigotry. Stereotyping is human nature. We stereotype fat people, tall people, blondes, etc. All the time. If I think Italians talk funny it doesn’t mean I hate Italians. Far from it. My wife is part Italian. You need to stop being so easily offended, that’s half your problem Lesh. So again, you called me a racist. I have 1000s of post. Find one racist post from me and I ll leave this site forever.
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