Chaos and Corruption

Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

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Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

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Nice try bozo, the sad fact is 700 million was given to a trucking company which was also 100 million in the red; "That company, YRC Worldwide, had lost more than $100 million in 2019 and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims it defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period. But six weeks after the hearing, YRC received a bailout from the Treasury Department — a $700 million loan in exchange for a 30% stake in the business. The company’s stock price soared 74%, although it has come down since."

So Mnuchin has purchased a failing truck company for $165,000 dollars. That's a great investment, and I wonder why you whine about a mistake vis a vis a clear example of a swamp critter squandering taxpayer money.


sounds like they were trying to prevent the company from going under, probably to save jobs.


what part of this offends you?

Crony Capitalism. How many small restaurants have gone under along with their employees? 700 Million Dollars to one company seems to odd and crooked to me.


bigger company gets more attention, is not crony capitalism.


that is a inherent flaw in the idea of government intervention like this.


i ask again, what part of this offends you?

oh wait, is this just ORANGE MAN BAD?


you don't care whether it is valid, just throwing shit out there, to create the illusion that where there is smoke there must be fire?

Size matters? How many drivers were laid off vis a vis the hundred of thousand restaurant employees?

BTW, Orange Man ain't only bad, he's evil, he is also mentally, emotionally and intellectually unfit to be POTUS, or to hold any office of Trust.



correct. size matters. a couple of hundred in a single lump gets more attention that thousands spread though out hundreds of businesses.

it is an inherent flaw in the concept of government intervention.


orange man bad, but all you have in your op to support that idea, is a complaint that is more about the weakness of the concept of government intervention, than anything trump is responsible for.


your weak support of your premise, makes it look like it might be completely wrong.


hey! what do you think about a mayor ordering the police to stand down, so that violent mobs can wage war against the federal government?


that seems more of a scandal than a trucking company being bailed out.


you upset about that? or is that "different" because of "Reasons"?

Your "logic" is all over the place. Write a clear argument in defense of Trump, and a rebuttal to my arguments. Your attack on the word chaos is semantic, a logical fallacy. Crony Capitalism created chaos in the White House, his flip flopping on Mask wearing has exacerbated the culture war, his firing of career civil servants and replacing them with Yes Men (cronies) has made our foreign policy a nightmare and his appointment of Barr to be the AG has made our legal system a mockery.
 
WASHINGTON — At a virtual congressional hearing in May, Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., asked Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for help. A struggling trucking company in his state was on the brink of collapse and needed government support.

Eager to assist, Mnuchin assured the senator that “we will look at that specific company and see what we can do and get back to you.”

That company, YRC Worldwide, had lost more than $100 million in 2019 and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims it defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period. But six weeks after the hearing, YRC received a bailout from the Treasury Department — a $700 million loan in exchange for a 30% stake in the business. The company’s stock price soared 74%, although it has come down since.



Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
What happened to the suite for fraud?
 
Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

View attachment 371079

Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

View attachment 371079

Nice try bozo, the sad fact is 700 million was given to a trucking company which was also 100 million in the red; "That company, YRC Worldwide, had lost more than $100 million in 2019 and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims it defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period. But six weeks after the hearing, YRC received a bailout from the Treasury Department — a $700 million loan in exchange for a 30% stake in the business. The company’s stock price soared 74%, although it has come down since."

So Mnuchin has purchased a failing truck company for $165,000 dollars. That's a great investment, and I wonder why you whine about a mistake vis a vis a clear example of a swamp critter squandering taxpayer money.


sounds like they were trying to prevent the company from going under, probably to save jobs.


what part of this offends you?

Crony Capitalism. How many small restaurants have gone under along with their employees? 700 Million Dollars to one company seems to odd and crooked to me.


bigger company gets more attention, is not crony capitalism.


that is a inherent flaw in the idea of government intervention like this.


i ask again, what part of this offends you?

oh wait, is this just ORANGE MAN BAD?


you don't care whether it is valid, just throwing shit out there, to create the illusion that where there is smoke there must be fire?

Size matters? How many drivers were laid off vis a vis the hundred of thousand restaurant employees?

BTW, Orange Man ain't only bad, he's evil, he is also mentally, emotionally and intellectually unfit to be POTUS, or to hold any office of Trust.



correct. size matters. a couple of hundred in a single lump gets more attention that thousands spread though out hundreds of businesses.

it is an inherent flaw in the concept of government intervention.


orange man bad, but all you have in your op to support that idea, is a complaint that is more about the weakness of the concept of government intervention, than anything trump is responsible for.


your weak support of your premise, makes it look like it might be completely wrong.


hey! what do you think about a mayor ordering the police to stand down, so that violent mobs can wage war against the federal government?


that seems more of a scandal than a trucking company being bailed out.


you upset about that? or is that "different" because of "Reasons"?

Your "logic" is all over the place. Write a clear argument in defense of Trump, and a rebuttal to my arguments. Your attack on the word chaos is semantic, a logical fallacy. Crony Capitalism created chaos in the White House, his flip flopping on Mask wearing has exacerbated the culture war, his firing of career civil servants and replacing them with Yes Men (cronies) has made our foreign policy a nightmare and his appointment of Barr to be the AG has made our legal system a mockery.


your ignore open insurrection in order to attack the president for a business bail out.


that is not a matter of semantics, that is you demonstrating how insanely partisan and irrational you are.


you equated "chaos" with wanting more money. that is not "semantics" that is you just saying shit that did not make sense.
 
Corrupt Crony Capitalism at work?

Right. The failed Kodak Company will probably not ever be successfully converted into a pharmaceutical company ... despite taxpayer assistance. There will probably be no prosecutions, either, for corrupt insider trading, though we are surely witnessing a gross example of how corrupt “crony capitalist” policies “Make Insiders Great Again.” It shows how managements and investors with insider information typically make a fortune when they get government largesse. Of course these days government largesse is no longer limited to Military Industrial Corporations, but is underpinning almost our whole economy.

“Over the last year, the average trading volume of Kodak’s stock has been 236,479 shares per day. On Monday, July 27, however, a day before the public announcement, 1,645,719 shares, almost eight times the daily average, were traded,” [Elizabeth] Warren wrote ... The Massachusetts lawmaker also pressed [into] the June 23 purchases of roughly 46,700 shares of Kodak stock by Eastman Kodak Executive Chairman James Continenza and 5,000 shares by board member Philippe Katz, saying they were purchased “while the company was involved in secret negotiations with the government over a lucrative contract.”
Trump says government to review $765M Kodak loan deal

People Question Kodak's Suspicious Trading Activity Day Before $765 Million Loan for Shift to Pharmaceuticals
According to Fox Business, Kodak shares surged more than 2,000 percent following Tuesday's announcement. A single share was selling at $2.62 when the market closed on Monday; they reached a high of $59.98 apiece on Wednesday.
People Question Kodak's Suspicious Trading Activity Day Before $765 Million Loan for Shift to Pharmaceuticals

Why was Kodak stock halted?
The Trump administration announced that the company would receive nearly a $765 million loan to create Kodak Pharmaceuticals. The NYSE halted trading on Kodak stock nearly 20 times due to high volatility. The stock jumped 570 percent to $60.00 per share at one point on Wednesday. On Tuesday, Kodak stock jumped 200 percent after the Trump administration made the news public.
Is Kodak Stock Worth Your Attention Right Now?
 
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Wow, that is a lot of shit that is happening to us. I never realized only the president has power in the USA. Thank you for educating us.

If only there was one other man in the USA that could stop a president.

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We have learned that the Dems create fake corruption issues like Russian Collution.
It is the Dems who have a huge corruption issue.
Lying and Stealing is a way of life for the Dems.

Really, Russia didn't impact the election of 2016? Ummm... what proof do you have, other than to echo Dumb Donald?
what proof do you have that they did?
the most foreign influence on our elections are the non-citizens who vote in our elections

Proof, sure:



What evidence do you have to prove non-citizens vote in our elections?
the russian collusion is a dumb lie that has been debunked
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails. There was the little matter of the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 x lying about it and not writing anything down. All they had to do is say go ahead anyway. No one would want incompetent trumpers helping LOL...
 
We have learned that the Dems create fake corruption issues like Russian Collution.
It is the Dems who have a huge corruption issue.
Lying and Stealing is a way of life for the Dems.

Really, Russia didn't impact the election of 2016? Ummm... what proof do you have, other than to echo Dumb Donald?
what proof do you have that they did?
the most foreign influence on our elections are the non-citizens who vote in our elections

Proof, sure:



What evidence do you have to prove non-citizens vote in our elections?
the russian collusion is a dumb lie that has been debunked
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails. There was the little matter of the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 x lying about it and not writing anything down. All they had to do is say go ahead anyway. No one would want incompetent trumpers helping LOL...
Russian Collusion was a LIE and you are still falling for it
 
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails.
Trump colluded in public? Asking the Russians if they could help find Hillary's missing emails is collusion? Against the law? Rigging the election? You are wrong with your assumptions.

We all know what happened to Hillary's emails. Clinton violating two Federal laws, destroying the emails on her illegal server. That is two felonies!

Of course there were the recipient copy of the emails, some on the DNC server which got hacked and stolen. That hack we know was an inside job due to the download speeds. To fast for an internet connection hack. Those were stolen with a USB drive.

Of course the Democrats refused to turn over the hacked server to the FBI. A law only Democrats are allowed to break. I should mention these are laws only Hillary and the Democrats are allowed to break.
 
Looks lie Chaos has come full circle and bite dumb donald where it hurts, his pocket book:


From the LINK:

When President Donald Trump connected by phone last week with Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson — perhaps the only person in the party who can cut a nine-figure check to aid his reelection — the phone call unexpectedly turned contentious.

The 87-year-old casino mogul had reached out to Trump to talk about the coronavirus relief bill and the economy. But then Trump brought the conversation around to the campaign and confronted Adelson about why he wasn’t doing more to bolster his reelection, according to three people with direct knowledge of the call. One of the people said it was apparent the president had no idea how much Adelson, who’s donated tens of millions of dollars to pro-Trump efforts over the years, had helped him. Adelson chose not to come back at Trump.


The president needs the money. With less than three months until the election, he is overwhelmed by a flood of liberal super PAC spending that his party has failed to match. Since this spring, outside groups supporting Joe Biden have outspent their pro-Trump counterparts nearly 3-to-1, an influx that’s helped to erase the president’s longstanding financial advantage.

Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do.


One more example of why we need campaign finance reform.



i'm not following your logic.


you are implying what? that "chaos" has convinced donors to not donate?


and to bolster that you offer the fact that trump is being outspent by dems?


you've done nothing to connect those dots. nothing.

You've missed the point. Chaos within Republican leadership is spelled out in this paragraph:
"Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do."

Dots connected, all because dumb donald may have killed his golden goose.


being outspent is not "chaos".


your attempt to support your op's claim, has utterly failed.

I repeat:

You've missed the point. Chaos within Republican leadership is spelled out in this paragraph:
"Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do."


no, it's not. it is not "chaos" for politicians to "pine" for money.


you are not making any sense.

Chaos: Complete disorder and confusion. Seems to fit the paragraph above in green to me.
 
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails.
Trump colluded in public? Asking the Russians if they could help find Hillary's missing emails is collusion? Against the law? Rigging the election? You are wrong with your assumptions.

We all know what happened to Hillary's emails. Clinton violating two Federal laws, destroying the emails on her illegal server. That is two felonies!

Of course there were the recipient copy of the emails, some on the DNC server which got hacked and stolen. That hack we know was an inside job due to the download speeds. To fast for an internet connection hack. Those were stolen with a USB drive.

Of course the Democrats refused to turn over the hacked server to the FBI. A law only Democrats are allowed to break. I should mention these are laws only Hillary and the Democrats are allowed to break.
 
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails.
Trump colluded in public? Asking the Russians if they could help find Hillary's missing emails is collusion? Against the law? Rigging the election? You are wrong with your assumptions.

We all know what happened to Hillary's emails. Clinton violating two Federal laws, destroying the emails on her illegal server. That is two felonies!

Of course there were the recipient copy of the emails, some on the DNC server which got hacked and stolen. That hack we know was an inside job due to the download speeds. To fast for an internet connection hack. Those were stolen with a USB drive.

Of course the Democrats refused to turn over the hacked server to the FBI. A law only Democrats are allowed to break. I should mention these are laws only Hillary and the Democrats are allowed to break.
I see you have not response to my many posts. Thank you for proving I posted fact.
 
We have learned that the Dems create fake corruption issues like Russian Collution.
It is the Dems who have a huge corruption issue.
Lying and Stealing is a way of life for the Dems.

Really, Russia didn't impact the election of 2016? Ummm... what proof do you have, other than to echo Dumb Donald?
what proof do you have that they did?
the most foreign influence on our elections are the non-citizens who vote in our elections

Proof, sure:



What evidence do you have to prove non-citizens vote in our elections?
the russian collusion is a dumb lie that has been debunked
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails. There was the little matter of the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 x lying about it and not writing anything down. All they had to do is say go ahead anyway. No one would want incompetent trumpers helping LOL.
Russian Collusion was a LIE and you are still falling for it
Yeah, that's what they all say. Kim Philby claimed innocence and so did the Rosenbergs, now there's Trump. Drop the blinders and connect the dots.
 
This thread seems to have no purpose other than flinging monkey poop every which way. Is it about the Trucking company, the Corona Virus or the President of the United States of America?

Yes it is, and don't forget about the number of women he assaulted sexually who have by now read the decision by the Federal Judge to support the allegation of E. Jean Carroll (see post #24 above).

He called all of them liar too. Orange man not only evil, his past suggests he is a sexual pervert.
Adding sexual assault to the list of subjects addressed in this monkey poop flinging little tantrum.

Gee, why not post TDS, that's become one more big lie by the Trumpanzee Set. Facts are Facts and you cannot write a rebuttal. That's pitiful.
 
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails.
Trump colluded in public? Asking the Russians if they could help find Hillary's missing emails is collusion? Against the law? Rigging the election? You are wrong with your assumptions.

We all know what happened to Hillary's emails. Clinton violating two Federal laws, destroying the emails on her illegal server. That is two felonies!

Of course there were the recipient copy of the emails, some on the DNC server which got hacked and stolen. That hack we know was an inside job due to the download speeds. To fast for an internet connection hack. Those were stolen with a USB drive.

Of course the Democrats refused to turn over the hacked server to the FBI. A law only Democrats are allowed to break. I should mention these are laws only Hillary and the Democrats are allowed to break.
I see you have not response to my many posts. Thank you for proving I posted fact.

I did reply, but you didn't provide evidence to your posted echo. Your source, btw, was Dumb Donald and Co.
 
We have learned that the Dems create fake corruption issues like Russian Collution.
It is the Dems who have a huge corruption issue.
Lying and Stealing is a way of life for the Dems.

Really, Russia didn't impact the election of 2016? Ummm... what proof do you have, other than to echo Dumb Donald?
what proof do you have that they did?
the most foreign influence on our elections are the non-citizens who vote in our elections

Proof, sure:



What evidence do you have to prove non-citizens vote in our elections?
the russian collusion is a dumb lie that has been debunked
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails. There was the little matter of the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 x lying about it and not writing anything down. All they had to do is say go ahead anyway. No one would want incompetent trumpers helping LOL.
Russian Collusion was a LIE and you are still falling for it
Yeah, that's what they all say. Kim Philby claimed innocence and so did the Rosenbergs, now there's Trump. Drop the blinders and connect the dots.
.....just speechless
 
WASHINGTON — At a virtual congressional hearing in May, Sen. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., asked Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin for help. A struggling trucking company in his state was on the brink of collapse and needed government support.

Eager to assist, Mnuchin assured the senator that “we will look at that specific company and see what we can do and get back to you.”

That company, YRC Worldwide, had lost more than $100 million in 2019 and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims it defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period. But six weeks after the hearing, YRC received a bailout from the Treasury Department — a $700 million loan in exchange for a 30% stake in the business. The company’s stock price soared 74%, although it has come down since.



Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.





Yeah, because Trump exposed them for the corrupt scum they are. And you want to keep the corrupt scum there.

Which makes you either stupid, or scum.

I'll let you choose.
 
We have learned that the Dems create fake corruption issues like Russian Collution.
It is the Dems who have a huge corruption issue.
Lying and Stealing is a way of life for the Dems.

Really, Russia didn't impact the election of 2016? Ummm... what proof do you have, other than to echo Dumb Donald?
what proof do you have that they did?
the most foreign influence on our elections are the non-citizens who vote in our elections

Proof, sure:



What evidence do you have to prove non-citizens vote in our elections?
the russian collusion is a dumb lie that has been debunked
Trump colluded in Public, he told the Russians to go after Hillary and 2 hours later they did. Wrecking the election by the way. 60% of political coverage was about meaningless emails. There was the little matter of the Trump campaign meeting with the Russians 30 x lying about it and not writing anything down. All they had to do is say go ahead anyway. No one would want incompetent trumpers helping LOL.
Russian Collusion was a LIE and you are still falling for it
Yeah, that's what they all say. Kim Philby claimed innocence and so did the Rosenbergs, now there's Trump. Drop the blinders and connect the dots.
.....just speechless
Success!
 
I did reply, but you didn't provide evidence to your posted echo. Your source, btw, was Dumb Donald and Co.
What I did post, was fact. Stuff I can easily reference in a book or online. The post of yours I responded to did not contain evidence, it did not contain links, nor did it reference a book. Are you now demanding of me what you refused to offer while you posted a point you believe worthy of being answered with links, references, or "evidence".

Evidence, a google search is not evidence. Not in the least. But we accept some results that are indeed fact. That are sourced.

So, establish you post as you expect it to be replied to, otherwise you are simply hiding from that which you can not change from opinion into fact.
 
Looks lie Chaos has come full circle and bite dumb donald where it hurts, his pocket book:


From the LINK:

When President Donald Trump connected by phone last week with Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson — perhaps the only person in the party who can cut a nine-figure check to aid his reelection — the phone call unexpectedly turned contentious.

The 87-year-old casino mogul had reached out to Trump to talk about the coronavirus relief bill and the economy. But then Trump brought the conversation around to the campaign and confronted Adelson about why he wasn’t doing more to bolster his reelection, according to three people with direct knowledge of the call. One of the people said it was apparent the president had no idea how much Adelson, who’s donated tens of millions of dollars to pro-Trump efforts over the years, had helped him. Adelson chose not to come back at Trump.


The president needs the money. With less than three months until the election, he is overwhelmed by a flood of liberal super PAC spending that his party has failed to match. Since this spring, outside groups supporting Joe Biden have outspent their pro-Trump counterparts nearly 3-to-1, an influx that’s helped to erase the president’s longstanding financial advantage.

Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do.


One more example of why we need campaign finance reform.



i'm not following your logic.


you are implying what? that "chaos" has convinced donors to not donate?


and to bolster that you offer the fact that trump is being outspent by dems?


you've done nothing to connect those dots. nothing.

You've missed the point. Chaos within Republican leadership is spelled out in this paragraph:
"Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do."

Dots connected, all because dumb donald may have killed his golden goose.


being outspent is not "chaos".


your attempt to support your op's claim, has utterly failed.

I repeat:

You've missed the point. Chaos within Republican leadership is spelled out in this paragraph:
"Now, Republican leaders are pleading to billionaires for help. Trump advisers are pining for new outside groups to form, and the White House is growing anxious to see what Adelson, who has pumped hundreds of millions of dollars into Republican super PACs over the past decade, will do."


no, it's not. it is not "chaos" for politicians to "pine" for money.


you are not making any sense.

Chaos: Complete disorder and confusion. Seems to fit the paragraph above in green to me.



even if you accept the spin in the green, it is still not chaos.

some politicians want more donations.


what "chaos"!
 
Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

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Well, the swamp is still there and has become more toxic than any White House of Political Party in our lifetime.
Not really. Corruption is part and parcel to the District of Criminals from BOTH Party's- can you say Solyndra?


Almost exactly four years after solar panel startup Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, the ghost of the company has now risen again, for seemingly the umpteenth time. And no it wasn’t from another awkward Republican Presidential debate.
This time the haunting is in the form of a report from the Inspector General’s Office, which after more than four years of investigation, concluded that Solyndra officials used inaccurate information to mislead the Department of Energy in its application for a $535 million loan guarantee. The report also found that there were shortcomings with the DOE’s process of managing and approving the loan guarantee to Solyndra.

Why the Solyndra mistake is still important to remember

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Nice try bozo, the sad fact is 700 million was given to a trucking company which was also 100 million in the red; "That company, YRC Worldwide, had lost more than $100 million in 2019 and was being sued by the Justice Department over claims it defrauded the federal government for a seven-year period. But six weeks after the hearing, YRC received a bailout from the Treasury Department — a $700 million loan in exchange for a 30% stake in the business. The company’s stock price soared 74%, although it has come down since."

So Mnuchin has purchased a failing truck company for $165,000 dollars. That's a great investment, and I wonder why you whine about a mistake vis a vis a clear example of a swamp critter squandering taxpayer money.


sounds like they were trying to prevent the company from going under, probably to save jobs.


what part of this offends you?

Crony Capitalism. How many small restaurants have gone under along with their employees? 700 Million Dollars to one company seems to odd and crooked to me.


bigger company gets more attention, is not crony capitalism.


that is a inherent flaw in the idea of government intervention like this.


i ask again, what part of this offends you?

oh wait, is this just ORANGE MAN BAD?


you don't care whether it is valid, just throwing shit out there, to create the illusion that where there is smoke there must be fire?

Size matters? How many drivers were laid off vis a vis the hundred of thousand restaurant employees?

BTW, Orange Man ain't only bad, he's evil, he is also mentally, emotionally and intellectually unfit to be POTUS, or to hold any office of Trust.



correct. size matters. a couple of hundred in a single lump gets more attention that thousands spread though out hundreds of businesses.

it is an inherent flaw in the concept of government intervention.


orange man bad, but all you have in your op to support that idea, is a complaint that is more about the weakness of the concept of government intervention, than anything trump is responsible for.


your weak support of your premise, makes it look like it might be completely wrong.


hey! what do you think about a mayor ordering the police to stand down, so that violent mobs can wage war against the federal government?


that seems more of a scandal than a trucking company being bailed out.


you upset about that? or is that "different" because of "Reasons"?

Your "logic" is all over the place. Write a clear argument in defense of Trump, and a rebuttal to my arguments. Your attack on the word chaos is semantic, a logical fallacy. Crony Capitalism created chaos in the White House, his flip flopping on Mask wearing has exacerbated the culture war, his firing of career civil servants and replacing them with Yes Men (cronies) has made our foreign policy a nightmare and his appointment of Barr to be the AG has made our legal system a mockery.
speaking of flip flopping and it being horrible -

guess the dems say we can send kids back to school, huh?

OOPS - THAT FLIP FLOPPING = GOOD HUH??? MM MMMM GOOD!!!

YUM DEMSHIT FOR YOU!
 

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