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Central America’s poverty stricken invasion of southern border draws National Guard
- Thread starter johnwk
- Start date
But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
- Thread starter
- #83
When poor people came here to escape Communism they were welcomed. ...
Not as you might think.
Common sense public charge laws date back to America's Colonial period
Unfortunately, there are those who are very much uniformed about our nation's history, and restrictive laws placed upon immigration.
.
Just for the record, as far back as our colonial period, public charge laws were enacted to prohibit the immigration of individuals who might become a public charge. One such law forbid ”… the admission of indigent migrants. This law was followed in the 18th century by other laws prohibiting the landing of “Sick, Lame, or Otherwise Infirm Persons,” and calling for bonds that were forfeited if immigrants of questionable means became public charges.” See: Public Charge Provisions of Immigration Law: A Brief Historical Background
Additionally, see: An act in amendment to the various acts relative to immigration and the importation of aliens under contract or agreement to perform labor
And in more recent times, during the early 1900s when there were great numbers immigrating to the United States and had to be cleared for entry at Elis Island, many were not granted entry into the United States for a number of reasons. One reason to be rejected was the likelihood of becoming a ward of the state and a “public charge”, and on this ground alone some were refused entry!
Also, "Unescorted women and children were detained until their safety was assured through the arrival of a telegram, letter, or a pre-paid ticket from a waiting relative. Immigration officials refused to send single women into the streets alone, nor could they leave with a man not related to them. LINK
The law also required a medical inspection of all immigrants, and if an inspection officer detected an applicant with a disease, especially contagious diseases (TB, venereal disease, etc.) and even mental illness, they were rejected.
So, the remaining question is: why is our federal government, including our Supreme Court, ignoring common sense public charge rules, and allowing the United states to be filled with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Central America? And how does this promote the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, and especially so when American Citizens pay federal taxes so our federal government will “repel invasions” and promote the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?
Why are our constitutionally guaranteed protections being ignored?
JWK
"If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?"___ Justice Story
The answer to your question is that the US policy is ... (can I say clusterfuck to actually describe anything in a constructive sense?)When poor people came here to escape Communism they were welcomed. ...
Not as you might think.
Common sense public charge laws date back to America's Colonial period
Unfortunately, there are those who are very much uniformed about our nation's history, and restrictive law placed upon immigration.
.
Just for the record, as far back as our colonial period, public charge laws were enacted to prohibit the immigration of individuals who might become a public charge. One such law forbid ”… the admission of indigent migrants. This law was followed in the 18th century by other laws prohibiting the landing of “Sick, Lame, or Otherwise Infirm Persons,” and calling for bonds that were forfeited if immigrants of questionable means became public charges.” See: Public Charge Provisions of Immigration Law: A Brief Historical Background
Additionally, see: An act in amendment to the various acts relative to immigration and the importation of aliens under contract or agreement to perform labor
And in more recent times, during the early 1900s when there were great numbers immigrating to the United States and had to be cleared for entry at Elis Island, many were not granted entry into the United States for a number of reasons. One reason to be rejected was the likelihood of becoming a ward of the state and a “public charge”, and on this ground alone some were refused entry!
Also, "Unescorted women and children were detained until their safety was assured through the arrival of a telegram, letter, or a pre-paid ticket from a waiting relative. Immigration officials refused to send single women into the streets alone, nor could they leave with a man not related to them. LINK
The law also required a medical inspection of all immigrants, and if an inspection officer detected an applicant with a disease, especially contagious diseases (TB, venereal disease, etc.) and even mental illness, they were rejected.
So, the remaining question is: why is our federal government, including our Supreme Court, ignoring common sense public charge rules, and allowing the United states to be filled with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of Central America? And how does this promote the general welfare of the United States and her citizens, and especially so when American Citizens pay federal taxes so our federal government will “repel invasions” and promote the general welfare of the United States and her citizens?
Why are our constitutionally guaranteed protections being ignored?
JWK
"If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?"___ Justice Story
In Obama's second term, the Freedom Caucus prevented the House from voting on any bill that would have had any policy other than immediate deportation for the millions working here, and raising children who are, and always will be, American citizens.
Trump had no actual policy beyond the political and his visceral enjoyment of inflicting more misery on helpless people who only sought to have less misery.
Biden apparently was naive in thinking 60 senators could agree on some rational response
No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
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Slade3200
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- Jan 13, 2016
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You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Jets
Platinum Member
- Jun 29, 2019
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You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
- Thread starter
- #88
No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right.
It's Mexico's fault for assisting and allowing "the kids" to travel though Mexico on to their way to the United States, the land of free government cheese. And what is right is to prevent those kids from entering the United States and leaving them for Mexico's government to attend to which allowed them into their country in the first place.
JWK
There is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.
Yep. The top priority is beating the other tribe, not finding smart solutions.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
That's absolutely true. I failed to mention the dems played politics with open borders thinking they'd gain voters as children became adults. But that is only half true. Latino immigrants are like all other immigrants. They vote for their own self-interest.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
And I personally give Biden the benefit of the doubt on things. He's much less a moderate than he is pragmatic, but imo he generally wants to make things better. But he failed bigly in not having a clear policy
Yeah once the gop takes the House, it'll again be all about doing nothing and blaming everyone in sight.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
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You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
Slade3200
Diamond Member
- Jan 13, 2016
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Its absolutely US vs Them. You and your ILK are all in on demonizing everything and everyone that doesn't agree with you. Wingnuts on the other side do the same thing and it is those two factions that cause gridlock and a deteriorating sense of civility in this country.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
Jets
Platinum Member
- Jun 29, 2019
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You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
INVASION. The entry of a country by a public enemy, making war.
2. The Constitution of the United States, art. 1, s. 8, gives power to congress "to provide forcalling the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions."Vide Insurrection.
Invasions
Definition of Invasions in the Legal Dictionary by The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com
Illegal immigrants do not meet that definition. That is a fallacious interpretation of the militia clause in question.
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Mexico probably does more to control their southern border than we do ours.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right.
It's Mexico's fault for assisting and allowing "the kids" to travel though Mexico on to their way to the United States, the land of free government cheese. And what is right is to prevent those kids from entering the United States and leaving them for Mexico's government to attend to which allowed them into their country in the first place.
JWK
There is no better way to weaken, subdue and bring to its knees a prosperous and freedom loving country than by flooding it with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low skilled, diseased, disabled and criminal populations of other countries.
Slade3200
Diamond Member
- Jan 13, 2016
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You're being too technical and logical for the dimwits. They don't deal in definitions and facts, they deal in emotions and hate.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
INVASION. The entry of a country by a public enemy, making war.
2. The Constitution of the United States, art. 1, s. 8, gives power to congress "to provide forcalling the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions."Vide Insurrection.
Invasions
Definition of Invasions in the Legal Dictionary by The Free Dictionary
Illegal immigrants do not meet that definition. That is a fallacious interpretation of the militia clause in question.
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- #97
Its absolutely US vs Them. You and your ILK are all in on demonizing everything and everyone that doesn't agree with you. Wingnuts on the other side do the same thing and it is those two factions that cause gridlock and a deteriorating sense of civility in this country.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
So, those of us who support common sense "public charge" rules being applied to immigration, and want our southern border to be protected from an ongoing invasion, and likewise want our federal government to fulfil its obligation to promote the general welfare of the United States and HER citizens, are an "ILK", "Wingnuts", and demonize those who ignore our Constitution.
Instead of posting insulting accusations, how about engaging in a productive discussion with regard to the current immigration crisis at our southern border?
JWK
The unavoidable truth is, our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have a plan for “free” college tuition, and cancelling student loan debt. The problem is, it will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
Slade3200
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Yes absolutely. Y’all are perpetuating the problem of gridlock and getting in the way of what you claim you want done. You’re more interested in the fighting and name calling than actually doing something for our country.Its absolutely US vs Them. You and your ILK are all in on demonizing everything and everyone that doesn't agree with you. Wingnuts on the other side do the same thing and it is those two factions that cause gridlock and a deteriorating sense of civility in this country.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
So, those of us who support common sense "public charge" rules being applied to immigration, and want our southern border to be protected from an ongoing invasion, and likewise want our federal government to fulfil its obligation to promote the general welfare of the United States and HER citizens, are an "ILK", "Wingnuts", and demonize those who ignore our Constitution.
Instead of posting insulting accusations, how about engaging in a productive discussion with regard to the current immigration crisis at our southern border?
JWK
The unavoidable truth is, our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have a plan for “free” college tuition, and cancelling student loan debt. The problem is, it will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
- Thread starter
- #99
You're being too technical and logical for the dimwits. They don't deal in definitions and facts, they deal in emotions and hate.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
INVASION. The entry of a country by a public enemy, making war.
2. The Constitution of the United States, art. 1, s. 8, gives power to congress "to provide forcalling the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions."Vide Insurrection.
Invasions
Definition of Invasions in the Legal Dictionary by The Free Dictionary
Illegal immigrants do not meet that definition. That is a fallacious interpretation of the militia clause in question.
Clause 15. The Congress shall have Power * * * To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.
Did you miss Article 4, Section 4?
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion . . . "
JWK
Exactly. I think they choose to perpetuate their dystopian view of America. Of course their philosophy devolved from the soviets. The Founders were perhaps too optimistic.Yes absolutely. Y’all are perpetuating the problem of gridlock and getting in the way of what you claim you want done. You’re more interested in the fighting and name calling than actually doing something for our country.Its absolutely US vs Them. You and your ILK are all in on demonizing everything and everyone that doesn't agree with you. Wingnuts on the other side do the same thing and it is those two factions that cause gridlock and a deteriorating sense of civility in this country.You're right about that... its the all or nothing partisan games that are killing us. Each side is pandering to an absolute position instead of trying to find logical solutions. The Left likes to speak in platitudes and appeal to the humanity of things. They are contrasting a very heartless attitude that Trump pour gasoline all over. The Republican have been destroyed by their acceptance and association with that kind of rhetoric. But support of the opposition of that won't last long if practical solutions aren't discussed and reached. The Dems have a short window to actually do something and not just talk like the good guys.No, it's certainly not the kids' fault, and we have to do what's right. But the Democrats have to look in the mirror regarding their own rhetoric on immigration. As with virtually every other issue right now, pretty much everything is all or nothing, so these people heard what the Dems were saying and figured the door was open. Who can blame them?But Trump v. Biden on immigration does pose a question. Biden and Harris are correct that people leaving their home countries to try to come here without out resources or relatives already here is a sign of despair, but also a calculated decision. Trump's response was to make their situations after they attempted to come here our of desperation even worse than what they faced in the first place. Is that the best we can do? Perhaps for adults. But do we just leave children on the border? And these are children whose homes were destroyed by hurricanes.Trumpism is a series of grunts, slogans and platitudes. Approach every problem with a plan that fits on a baseball cap. Address every issue by beating on it with a stick.“America first” sounds like “O’Doyle rules!” Get over yourselfWho knows what they're like in real life. Most likely, all the bravado and swagger is meant to buttress a fragile self esteem.Hahahaha. You think it takes courage to say the things you say?! No sir, you are not a courageous man. You are a weak and insecure man that tries to hide it by acting tough on message boards and with your political rhetoric. If you were secure and courageous you wouldn’t be trying so hard.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!Yeah!I think that's a perfectly reasonable and interesting question, and it's the type of challenging, stimulating issue I very much enjoy discussing with intelligent, thoughtful, honest people in real life.Just pointing out the obvious.Q: Why are so many people trying to cross the border?
A: Because they're desperate.
Q: Why are they so desperate?
A: Because their countries are shit holes.
Q: Why are their countries shit holes?
A: Because of the crime and corruption.
Q: Who is responsible for the crime and corruption?
A: The drug cartels.
Q: How do the drug cartels keep the crime and corruption so bad?
A: Because they're mega-wealthy.
Q: How did they get so mega-wealthy?
A: From selling drugs.
A: To whom do these mega-wealthy drug cartels sell their drugs?
A: AMERICA.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
What does that mean to you?
Do you have the balls to be candid with your answer?
Are you saying the Americans who don't do the drugs supplied by the cartels deserve to be plagued by all that comes with fostering Mexico's most desperate?
But don't worry. You'll always be the victim.
No, no.....you pointed out that Mexico's people are the victim.
So elaborate....do the 300 million here not doing drugs deserve to be plagued by Mexico's most desperate because some are buying drugs?
Good stuff!
That's neat...the cool thing is; those of us not scared are actually discussing it right here right now...pretty awesome huh?
See, none of your "it's all Americas fault" excuse making FEELZ bullshit passes the smell test for us sane logical folks living outside of LibTardia...it simply doesn't make sense and I'll tell you why, since unlike yourself I have the courage to do so.
When people here in America run up their overheads and can no longer afford the six children they're responsible for they often have to move or MIGRATE to reduce overhead and or increase earnings...this is NEVER the fault of someone buying drugs somewhere, this is the fault of the family with expenses that exceed their income...Come on man, this is elementary shit for a financial God such as yourself...no?
Lets go further, if there are no safe zones in Mexico, Central and South America why do so many wealthy Americans buy places there and or vacation there? Again, your shit doesn't pass the smell test....TRY HARDER...you and Slade3200 need to get your heads working right...say no to FEELZ.
Precisely like the man they adore. Maybe that explains the intensity of their emotions for him.
Mac, only you leftists need to "adore" your president...legit Americans "adore" America First policies....Remember those?
This kind of back and forth shit will continue until and unless we drop this stupid tribal crap.
Those who view the opposition as the enemy are the problem. “US vs Them” taken to such an extreme promotes the nations tribalism.
My goodness. This is not about US vs Them. It is about protecting the United States against an ongoing invasion of our southern border, and promoting the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.
JWK
Our socialist revolutionaries, which now control the Democrat Party Leadership, want elderly American citizens, who were forced to pay into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their Medicare Trust fund with millions of foreigners who have invaded America’s borders. LINK
So, those of us who support common sense "public charge" rules being applied to immigration, and want our southern border to be protected from an ongoing invasion, and likewise want our federal government to fulfil its obligation to promote the general welfare of the United States and HER citizens, are an "ILK", "Wingnuts", and demonize those who ignore our Constitution.
Instead of posting insulting accusations, how about engaging in a productive discussion with regard to the current immigration crisis at our southern border?
JWK
The unavoidable truth is, our socialist/fascist revolutionaries, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have a plan for “free” college tuition, and cancelling student loan debt. The problem is, it will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.
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