CCP may be desperate enough to start a war to save itself

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

China's leaders are selected the same way as in any Communist country - through gangster-ism and bullying within the Party. The most cunning, vicious and devious are the ones that rise.

MAGA. That is MAGAism.

 

[Zavulon]

I am confident that most Taiwanese want U.S. support against a Chinese invasion.

And why are you confident? Is it just your wishful-thinking or your confidence is based on something more substantial? If they prefer Ukrainian scenario - why do they vote for pro-Continental parties?

 

[Hector12]

And why are you confident? Is it just your wishful-thinking or your confidence is based on something more substantial? If they prefer Ukrainian scenario - why do they vote for pro-Continental parties?

They vote for pro Continental parties to avoid giving Communist China a pretext to invade them.

 

[Zavulon]

They vote for pro Continental parties to avoid giving Communist China a pretext to invade them.

Please, explain. How does it suppose to work at all? I just didn't get your logic.

 

[Hector12]

Please, explain. How does it suppose to work at all? I just didn't get your logic.

BBC

China sees self-governed Taiwan as a breakaway province that will eventually be part of the country, and has not ruled out the use of force to achieve this.

But many Taiwanese consider themselves to be part of a separate nation, although most are in favour of maintaining the status quo where Taiwan neither declares independence from China nor unites with it.

As well as dropping the phrase, the factsheet, which was updated last Thursday, also says the US will support Taiwan's membership in international organisations "where applicable".

Commenting on the changes, a spokesperson at the American Institute in Taiwan - the US' de facto embassy on the island - told local media that the fact sheet had been "updated to inform the general public about [the US'] unofficial relationship with Taiwan".

"We have long stated that we oppose any unilateral changes to the status quo from either side."

On Sunday, Taiwan's Foreign Minister Lin Chia-lung thanked the US for what he called "positive, Taiwan-friendly wordings".

But in their regular press conference on Monday, Beijing's foreign ministry slammed the move, calling the revision a "serious regression" in the US' stance on Taiwan.

"This sends a wrong and serious signal to separatist forces advocating for Taiwan independence and is another example of the U.S. stubbornly persisting with its wrong policy of using Taiwan to contain China," said Chinese spokesperson Guo Jiakun.

China condemns US after line on 'Taiwan independence' cut from site

Beijing demands the US "correct its mistakes" after it altered its factsheet on the self-ruled island.

www.bbc.com

"We urge the US to immediately correct its mistakes [and] earnestly adhere to the One China principle."

 

[Eman623]

If China attacked Taiwan they would face sanctions that would obliterate them as a military, economic and political superpower within three months.

 

[Zavulon]

BBC

China sees self-governed Taiwan as a breakaway province that will eventually be part of the country, and has not ruled out the use of force to achieve this.

But many Taiwanese consider themselves to be part of a separate nation, although most are in favour of maintaining the status quo where Taiwan neither declares independence from China nor unites with it.

As well as dropping the phrase, the factsheet, which was updated last Thursday, also says the US will support Taiwan's membership in international organisations "where applicable".

Commenting on the changes, a spokesperson at the American Institute in Taiwan - the US' de facto embassy on the island - told local media that the fact sheet had been "updated to inform the general public about [the US'] unofficial relationship with Taiwan".

"We have long stated that we oppose any unilateral changes to the status quo from either side."

On Sunday, Taiwan's Foreign Minister Lin Chia-lung thanked the US for what he called "positive, Taiwan-friendly wordings".

But in their regular press conference on Monday, Beijing's foreign ministry slammed the move, calling the revision a "serious regression" in the US' stance on Taiwan.

"This sends a wrong and serious signal to separatist forces advocating for Taiwan independence and is another example of the U.S. stubbornly persisting with its wrong policy of using Taiwan to contain China," said Chinese spokesperson Guo Jiakun.

China condemns US after line on 'Taiwan independence' cut from site

Beijing demands the US "correct its mistakes" after it altered its factsheet on the self-ruled island.

www.bbc.com

"We urge the US to immediately correct its mistakes [and] earnestly adhere to the One China principle."

First of all, BBC are liars. You can't trust them at all. Whatever they write, its BS. Second - "many Taiwanese" doesn't mean "majority". Third - the continuation of the status quo doesn't depends on them only. It also (and mostly) depends on the CPR and the USA decisions. And if the continuation becomes impossible (like, say, if the CPR truly determined to take back Taiwan), the only choice left for them may be "knee or fight". The choice between the fate of Hong Kong and the fate of Ukraine.
Of course, many DPP leaders do like idea of stealing enough of American money and military equipment and then run away from Taiwan. But ordinary Taiwanese doesn't see a lot if difference between KMT, DPP, CCP and other parties. They don't want to die for nothing in unwinnable war. The problem is that American politicians are rarely interested in the wishes and problems of ordinary Chinamen (or even ordinary Americans). They live in the world of stupid political abstractions and meaningless mottos.

 

[Zavulon]

If China attacked Taiwan they would face sanctions that would obliterate them as a military, economic and political superpower within three months.

Same thing was said about Russia.

 

[Ringo]

I am Diné.

How, chief! For outsiders of US you are yankee, you know, the ones that "Yankees go home!"

 

[JoeB131]

Not at all

They were in pandemic mode two years after the rest of the world

Okay, if you need to tell yourself that.

 

[JoeB131]

If China attacked Taiwan they would face sanctions that would obliterate them as a military, economic and political superpower within three months.

Sanctions from whom, the US?

You work on the assumption the rest of the world is going to go to the mattresses for Taiwan when they probably won't.

Their trade with China is too lucrative.

 

[Mac-7]

Sanctions from whom, the US?

You work on the assumption the rest of the world is going to go to the mattresses for Taiwan when they probably won't.

Their trade with China is too lucrative.

China is the long term enemy of every economy in the world

The bloom is off the rose of the China Miracle

Other developing nations want to take china’s place as part of America’s supply chain

 

[Hector12]

First of all, BBC are liars.

What has BBC lied about? Quote the lie, and prove it is a lie.

 

[braalian]

Leaving aside that China has every right to re-assert her sovereignty over a break-away province

After all these decades, I don’t think “breakaway province” is accurate

 

[Zavulon]

What has BBC lied about? Quote the lie, and prove it is a lie.

BBC is a mouthpiece of British propaganda, and so they lie or distort facts everytime when they are talking about Russia, Ukraine, China and, a bit lesser - about the USA. Just recall what did they write before, say, Trump elections.
Like, you know:

Kamala didn't have a chance and they knew it.

 

[Hector12]

BBC is a mouthpiece of British propaganda, and so they lie or distort facts everytime when they are talking about Russia, Ukraine, China and, a bit lesser - about the USA. Just recall what did they write before, say, Trump elections.
Like, you know:

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Kamala didn't have a chance and they knew it.

 

[Hector12]

BBC is a mouthpiece of British propaganda, and so they lie or distort facts everytime when they are talking about Russia, Ukraine, China and, a bit lesser - about the USA. Just recall what did they write before, say, Trump elections.
Like, you know:

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Kamala didn't have a chance and they knew it.

The last presidential election was close. Trump did lose in 2929, despite his lies to the contrary. Now his approval rating is down to 42%

 

[Zavulon]

The last presidential election was close. Trump did lose in 2929, despite his lies to the contrary. Now his approval rating is down to 42%

He wasn't "close". He'd won with overwhelming superiority. And, I belive, the people who tell you about "approval ratings" are the same people who were telling you about Harris chances.

 

[Eman623]

Same thing was said about Russia.

I think it was also said if Russia attacked Ukraine they would win in a few weeks.

But sanctions would hurt China far more than Russia. Russia is self-sufficient in food and oil. China is not.

Sanctions from whom, the US?

You work on the assumption the rest of the world is going to go to the mattresses for Taiwan when they probably won't.

Their trade with China is too lucrative.

Maybe. But the sanctions wouldn't be to cut off China from its markets. It would cut them off from their suppliers. No more oil, no more food. There's a lot of mouths to feed.

China is self-sufficient in coal, but battleships haven't run on coal since WWI. They need diesel fuel and you need oil for that.

 

[braalian]

BBC is a mouthpiece of British propaganda, and so they lie or distort facts everytime when they are talking about Russia, Ukraine, China and, a bit lesser - about the USA. Just recall what did they write before, say, Trump elections.
Like, you know:

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Kamala didn't have a chance and they knew it.

Fox News showed her ahead, too

We all know the polling is flawed.

But how was the BBC “lying” when they were just reporting the same poll numbers as everyone else?