Cato Institute: Immigrants Are a Net Positive

[Robert W]

They work. You shoulda tried it

Be arrested for hiring illegals! I don't think so.

 

[protectionist]

How do you take away jobs that no one wants?

That talking point was obliterated 20 years ago.
Looks like you are firmly under the influence (of leftwing OMISSION/DISTORTION media). They're not letting you know that lousy jobs for illegals are a thing of the PAST.

Of the hundreds of thousands of illegals that ICE has rounded up in 2025, are skilled electronics workers, skilled machine shop workers, well-paid construction workers, high level managers, college teachers, and even politicians.

Looks like you're just as kept in the dark now, as I was in 1988, when I was still a Democrat, and got all my "news" from ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS. All leftist, no Fox or Newsmax, no cable TV, no smart TV. I went through the whole 1988 presidential campaign and wound up voting for Dukakis, without ever hearing one word about Willie Horton. Didn't find out about him until years later.

And remember the fuss about Don Lemon and his rowdy bunch invading a church service ? That was in St. Paul Minnesota. Guess who the mayor there is. >>
An ILLEGAL ALIEN - Kaoly Vang Her - an illegal from Laos.

MSN

ICE arrests criminal alien serving as Des Moines Public Schools superintendent; prior weapons charges and in possession of loaded handgun at time of arrest

Today, ICE Des Moines arrested Ian Andre Roberts, a criminal illegal alien from Guyana in possession of a loaded handgun, $3,000 in cash and a fixed blade hunting knife.

www.ice.gov

Illegal Alien Elected Mayor And Caught Voting Illegally Faces Deportation - The American Tribune.com

After a shocking investigation, Jose "Joe" Ceballos, Coldwater, Kansas, a green card holder and Mexican citizen, has been slapped with felony voter fraud

theamericantribune.com

 

[protectionist]

How do you take away jobs that no one wants?

Thought I was finished knocked out that post ? Nah, got one more thing.

The dirtiest, toughest, & most dangerous jobs in America, are not being done by illegal aliens. They're being done by Americans. Like coal miners, firefighters, & the troops in Afghanistan, Iraq, Persian Gulf, etc.

 

[protectionist]

How do you take away jobs that no one wants?

One more thing >>>

There Are No Jobs Americans Won’t Do

Among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants.

cis.org

 

[protectionist]

What a bizarre claim.

It is a claim of utter ignorance, the result of being under the influence of leftwing BS in media, universities, think tanks, etc. Programmed robots.

 

[rightwinger]

You are an idiot then. Plenty of serial killers who are good neighbors, so you want to keep gambling on American lives with people that no one knows who they are or where exactly do they come from ????? That's foolish talk....

Odd flow of logic to spread fear

He doesn’t have proper paperwork same thing as serial killer

 

[protectionist]

Odd flow of logic to spread fear

He doesn’t have proper paperwork same thing as serial killer

SOME illegal aliens ARE serial killers, and some kill one or a few people. The point is that Joe Biden brought millions of illegals into the country , unvetted, and SOME of them went on to kill Americans (I trust you don't need the LIST)

So, when you have a despicable scum like Biden, caring about nothing but getting re-elected (& peddling political influence), you will have more death than you would have had if the illegals had not come here.

The numbers as a whole may seem insignificant to you, but they're not insignificant to the 5 kids of Rachel Morin. The mother & sister of Laken Riley.
The mother of Jocelyn Nungaray. And if it was a friend or family member of yours who was killed, it wouldn't seem insignificant to YOU.

 

[rightwinger]

SOME illegal aliens ARE serial killers, and some kill one or a few people.

Most serial killers are white male Christians

Odd logic that we must hunt down millions of undocumented people because there might be a serial killer in there

 

[protectionist]

Most serial killers are white male Christians

If so, that doesn't help Debrina Kawam, does it ?

 

[Lesh]

One more thing >>>

There Are No Jobs Americans Won’t Do

Among the 474 separate occupations defined by the Department of Commerce, we find only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations, and none completely dominated by immigrants.

cis.org

A. The CIS is an anti-immigrant group so their stats should be understood in that light. Yes stats can be manipulated.

B. They note that over half of farm workers are illegals

It should be noted that if the approx 17 million illegals were removed (more than half of whom are workers) we would lose something on the order of eight million low wage workers

Considering the fact that we are a full employment now… those workers would not be replaced without raising wages considerably.

Doing that would raise prices by a lot… as well as …yes…inflation

You fuckers were SCREAMING about inflation not too long ago. Well it would be back in a big way…and for a long time

And we would have done it to ourselves… because you don’t like brown people

 

[rightwinger]

If so, that doesn't help Debrina Kawam, does it ?

The reality is that most undocumented migrants follow the law more than native born Americans

THe reason is that if they get caught they and their family will be deported

 

[Lesh]

Most serial killers are white male Christians

Odd logic that we must hunt down millions of undocumented people because there might be a serial killer in there

If you want to reduce the likelihood of a serial killer … lock up all young white males

I mean , that is the kind of logic you’re using here

 

[Oddball]

It wasn’t

It's documented, lying sack of shit.

 

[protectionist]

The reality is that most undocumented migrants follow the law more than native born Americans

THe reason is that if they get caught they and their family will be deported

How many illegal aliens have you talked to ? My guess is not many.

So you think illegal aliens are law abiding do you ? Well, that's the line that the left media pushes (from plenty of leftist "studies, data, reports, ad infinitum/nauseum).

Well, unlike me, who has never been arrested, and IS law abiding, illegal aliens who crossed the border without inspection from US immigration officials, ALL are criminals just from having done that. (US Code 8 Section 1325)

In addition, never mind that we (especially us Spanish speakers) have been listening to illegal aliens FOR DECADES, bragging about how they vote, drive without licenses, slap fake license plates on stolen cars they buy dirt cheap, get SNAP et al welfare illegally, and buy fake county photo IDs in the local flea market for $15 each. Ho hum.

EARTH TO RTWG: Illegal aliens are a sub-culture in America, for whom doing things illegally is a WAY OF LIFE. Learn to speak Spanish, talk to hundreds of illegals, especially when they've had a few beers, and you will begin to know what you're talking about.

 

[rightwinger]

How many illegal aliens have you talked to ? My guess is not many.

So you think illegal aliens are law abiding do you ? Well, that's the line that the left media pushes (from plenty of leftist "studies, data, reports, ad infinitum/nauseum).

Well, unlike me, who has never been arrested, and IS law abiding, illegal aliens who crossed the border without inspection from US immigration officials, ALL are criminals just from having done that. (US Code 8 Section 1325)

In addition, never mind that we (especially us Spanish speakers) have been listening to illegal aliens FOR DECADES, bragging about how they vote, drive without licenses, slap fake license plates on stolen cars they buy dirt cheap, get SNAP et al welfare illegally, and buy fake county photo IDs in the local flea market for $15 each. Ho hum.

EARTH TO RTWG: Illegal aliens are a sub-culture in America, for whom doing things illegally is a WAY OF LIFE. Learn to speak Spanish, talk to hundreds of illegals, especially when they've had a few beers, and you will begin to know what you're talking about.

More RW fear mongering against aliens.
Got Trump elected

Mexicans are murderers and rapists
Somalians are filth
Haitians are eating your cats and dogs
Muslims are terrorists

 

[protectionist]

A. The CIS is an anti-immigrant group so their stats should be understood in that light. Yes stats can be manipulated.

B. They note that over half of farm workers are illegals

It should be noted that if the approx 17 million illegals were removed (more than half of whom are workers) we would lose something on the order of eight million low wage workers

Considering the fact that we are a full employment now… those workers would not be replaced without raising wages considerably.

Doing that would raise prices by a lot… as well as …yes…inflation

You fuckers were SCREAMING about inflation not too long ago. Well it would be back in a big way…and for a long time

And we would have done it to ourselves… because you don’t like brown people

Oh so it's the INVALIDATION CARD again, hey ? Well, where do you expect to find research that counters the leftist line ?n the New York Times ? The Nation ?

Oh so wages would go up, if/when illegals are replaced. And you think that's a BAD thing ?

Prices can only be raised in a very FEW essential commoditIes. For 95% of products businesses cannot raise prices, without incurring SALES REDUCTIONS (that's how their prices was ascertained to begin with (the MAKET PRICE)

As for your racist "brown people" comment, I happen to be one, you dolt. You've been in this forum for 10 years, and you don't know that ?

 

[protectionist]

More RW fear mongering against aliens.
Got Trump elected

Mexicans are murderers and rapists
Somalians are filth
Haitians are eating your cats and dogs
Muslims are terrorists

I lived in Mexico for 5-9 years off & on. I'm part Mexican. I speak Spanish, and I can tell you absolutely 100% positive, that YES Mexicans ARE rapists, and your ignorance of this is astounding. You don't know that Mexico is DIFFERENT than the USA, when it comes to the subject of sexual assault. You are unaware of the Mexican rape culture.
Here's your education >>
For many Mexicans, rape is not considered a bad thing, even within families of parents upon their kids.

There is what is known as the rape culture of Mexico. This is a whole nother thing from what we generally have in the US. Raping and sexual assaults on all levels, is commonly looked upon as normal in Mexico. This is true even within families.

Mexico, and most of Latin America has a distinct RAPE CULTURE, that is very foreign and different from American life. Women and children are looked upon as toys to Mexican men, and rape, pedophilia, and sexual assault is so common, it is generally accepted as normal. This is why US prosecutors consistently report the "puzzled" attitude of Mexican rape/sex assault suspects in court, who typically can't figure out why they are being arrested, or even thought of as having done something wrong. Where they come from, mostly, it IS NOT considered to BE wrong, and sexual assault is commonly accepted, even within families, and even against children.

Another evidence of the Mexican "rape culture" (this actually refers to sex crime generally), is the subways and buses in Mexico City, and other Mexican cities, segregated by sex. The record shows that Mexican men simply cannot keep their hands off Mexican women, including strangers on mass transit facilities. So they have men buses, and separate women & children buses.
Seen any sex segregated buses & subways in the US lately ?

Mexico City Rolls Out Sex-Segregated Buses

Constant Groping, Harassment Led Women's Groups To Demand "Ladies Only" Road Transport

www.cbsnews.com

Trump said > "They're rapists". Essentially a TRUE statement, at least colloquially.

 

[protectionist]

More RW fear mongering against aliens.
Got Trump elected

Mexicans are murderers and rapists
Somalians are filth
Haitians are eating your cats and dogs
Muslims are terrorists

Somalians - no ethnic group in America has ever been so involved in welfare fraud, and at such a high level. If Somalians get a bad reputation, it's becasue they DESERVE it.

 

[protectionist]

More RW fear mongering against aliens.
Got Trump elected

Mexicans are murderers and rapists
Somalians are filth
Haitians are eating your cats and dogs
Muslims are terrorists

Muslims >>>
YES ....YES >>>>YES they are, stupid, ignorant fool. Do you have the foggiest idea of what is in the Koran ? Pheeew! And that isn't all.

Yes, I hate Islam, because it is the cancer that has killed 270 million people around the globe, pushes a moronic ideology (masquerading as a religion), and advocates (if not commands) immoral and illegal (under US law) things like

• genocidal mass murder (Koran 4:89, 8:12, 8:67, etc etc)
• rape (Koran 4:24, 23:1-6, 70:29-30),
• slavery (Koran 4:36, 4:92, 23:5-6), .,
• pedophilia, (Koran 65-4),
• misogyny (24:31, 24:58, 4:34)

How about that last one (WIFE-BEATING - Koran 4:34) Would that be your favorite ? Muslim husbands advised (if not commanded) to beat their wives. After spending some months in Iraq, Americans commonly say their worst memory was hearing the screams of Muslim women, at night, being whipped by their husbands.

If the Palestinian culture were to be completely eradicated by Israel, it would be one of the best things that ever happened.

 

[protectionist]

More RW fear mongering against aliens.
Got Trump elected

Mexicans are murderers and rapists
Somalians are filth
Haitians are eating your cats and dogs
Muslims are terrorists

It is time for you to get out of the doldrums of leftwing propaganda and confront the REAL WORLD. Most Americans are doing that.
That's how Donald trump got elected in 2024.