Cato Institute: Immigrants Are a Net Positive

[dblack]

The idea that the Proud Boys has anything to do with this, is a retarded leftie conspiracy theory.

You're wildly missing the point. Deliberately, I assume..

 

[Correll]

You're wildly missing the point. Deliberately, I assume..

Errr, not really.

You made a very serious claim, that the people making the arrestsl, are not government agents, but paramilitary partisans, ie basically some sort of brown shirts.

If true that would be a massive and shocking step forward towards teh civil war that is the end goal of the escalations that the left has been pushing.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No. One has nothing to do with the other. We have serious immigration issues that need to be addressed. But forming a secret police to terrorize the populace is not the way to handle it. There's simply no consensus for such extreme measures. But Trump is forcing it on us regardless. That's why there's civil unrest.

Do you think the “populace” felt terrorized when Ike ran Operation ******* in the 1950’s when America was comprised of Americans or do you think they felt rescued?
1954 was long before the emergence of woke white guilt America hating marxists, before chicks with dicks and faggots we’re all around us, before purple hair nose ringers, before statue/city destroying George Floyd’ers, before pajama pant incel beta male barista boys with man buns, before psycho/suicidal young girls on anxiety and depression meds with severe daddy issues had a voice.
Admit it…this is a far different America, this is a LibTarded as **** America…this is a TOTALLY fucked America and only through aggressive measures can we take America back from Mexico’s people.

No, there's a third "side". A side calling bullshit on the two-party clown show. The culture war nonsense has both Ds and Rs on a mission to "transform America" - to force everyone to conform to their idea of a "good" society.

NOPE….The side you align with most often aims to “transform America” while the other seeks to preserve and protect what it’s always been…You know this but you refuse to admit it. That makes you lack credibility, unserious and disingenuous.

Americans don't want to be transformed. Do you?

WTF…are you blind and deaf?
One party/faction spends all day everyday “transforming” our citizenry, our institutions, our values, our moral order, our historical record, our culture, our heritage….DUDE, pay afuckingttention!

 

[dblack]

Errr, not really.

You made a very serious claim, that the people making the arrestsl, are not government agents, but paramilitary partisans, ie basically some sort of brown shirts.

If true that would be a massive and shocking step forward towards teh civil war that is the end goal of the escalations that the left has been pushing.

The point is that Trump has converted ICE into a secret police of militarized shock troops. They aren't legitimate police enforcing the law.

 

[Correll]

The point is that Trump has converted ICE into a secret police of militarized shock troops. They aren't legitimate police enforcing the law.

1. You claimed that they were Proud Boys, not government agents. Are you dropping that absurd claim?

2. They are arresting illegals and deporting them. By the hundreds of thousands. That is badly, BADLY needed. The arguments I have seen against this, are almost solely anti-American in nature. Do you believe this nation is entirely "Stolen land"?

 

[BrokeLoser]

1. You claimed that they were Proud Boys, not government agents. Are you dropping that absurd claim?

2. They are arresting illegals and deporting them. By the hundreds of thousands. That is badly, BADLY needed. The arguments I have seen against this, are almost solely anti-American in nature. Do you believe this nation is entirely "Stolen land"?

You’ve challenged ole dblack to the point where he knows he can no longer carry on defending the indefensible…He disengages, retreats and runs for the hills. He’ll now have you on semi-ignore. Sadly, like all marxist libs, he learns nothing from these exchanges.

 

[beagle9]

Be arrested for hiring illegals! I don't think so.

That's what Law abiding citizen's like us think, but the crooked sons of biscuits it don't apply to them if they work the illegals under the table or worse.

No. One has nothing to do with the other. We have serious immigration issues that need to be addressed. But forming a secret police to terrorize the populace is not the way to handle it. There's simply no consensus for such extreme measures. But Trump is forcing it on us regardless. That's why there's civil unrest.

No, there's a third "side". A side calling bullshit on the two-party clown show. The culture war nonsense has both Ds and Rs on a mission to "transform America" - to force everyone to conform to their idea of a "good" society.

Americans don't want to be transformed. Do you?

One thing that is a fact in life, and that fact is that there is a right and there is a wrong in everything. So it comes down to historic and current evidence that proves the wrong, and the evidence that proves the right. If you want to deny or ignore the facts, and then try to fool the people into thinking that wrong is right, and right is wrong then that's on you.

 

[Correll]

You’ve challenged ole dblack to the point where he knows he can no longer carry on defending the indefensible…He disengages, retreats and runs for the hills. He’ll now have you on semi-ignore. Sadly, like all marxist libs, he learns nothing from these exchanges.

Pathetic.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Pathetic.

It’s the only way the Twilight Zoners can stay in that bizarre upside down world they’ve concocted. They can only engage is constructive discourse for so long…then they know they must retreat or admit their position is forged strictly on feelings and none of them have the balls to ever admit that…especially dblack .

 

[Robert W]

You’ve challenged ole dblack to the point where he knows he can no longer carry on defending the indefensible…He disengages, retreats and runs for the hills. He’ll now have you on semi-ignore. Sadly, like all marxist libs, he learns nothing from these exchanges.

That is factual about Democrats. Here is what they believe, reverently.

Illegal aliens belong invading the USA.

We are to dismiss laws as they don't apply to Democrats
Democrat's jobs are to welcome the illegal aliens and protect them.
While they ignore the law-abiding US citizens.

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[Manonthestreet]

To the tune of over 4.6 trillion dollars

With illegals net positive 1.7 trillion

And both the legal and illegal commit crimes at a far lower rate than citizens

Cato is NOT. “Far left” org

They are a conservative think tank

Want To Reduce The Debt And Lower The Crime Rate? Bring In Even More Immigrants.

Contrary to Trump's claims, immigrants, even illegal ones, use fewer services and commit fewer crimes than native-born Americans, according to Cato Institute studies.

www.huffpost.com

If that's the case shouldn't the budget be in positive territory

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Lesh]

If that's the case shouldn't the budget be in positive territory

Why would that be?