Cannot find a job, despite lots of efforts

[Lisa558]

Maybe. But maybe he can slowly charge more. That's the goal in capitalism. Every worker seeks more. Any decent worker that is.

Not necessarily. Once you are at a level that provides a comfortable life, many workers prioritze more family time, more leisure time for hobbies, less stress, etc.

 

[initforme]

Not necessarily. Once you are at a level that provides a comfortable life, many workers prioritze more family time, more leisure time for hobbies, less stress, etc.

True. But today, more young people are foregoing marriages and kids. Crank out the $, retire earlier. A good dignity for the nation.

 

[initforme]

America is the only place in the world where you can find obese homeless people.

And finding good workers is beyond easy.

 

[Concerned American]

Could easily charge $500 k. That's capitalism 101. Charge as much as possible.

And would you like to pay 50% more to heat or cool your home? Of course it wouldn't be just 50%, because everybody else along the way would have to be compensated equally. A vicious circle. The ultimate winners are only that small wealthy elite class that you were talking about that exist now and will continue to exist regardless of whether or not burgers are flipped. This line of thought is self defeating. A job will create its own wage level by the value that the public who receives it will give it. At some point, they will quit paying it. Fast food workers surpassed their value for me about $10/hr.

 

[Concerned American]

And finding good workers is beyond easy.

Because there is a dearth of good, educated, skilled workers in the US. Everyone wants to become a millionaire with no skills.

 

[Concerned American]

So the fast food put can offer minimum wage. Then offer that. Problem is solved. The wages are lower.

In CA, that is minimum wage for a fast food worker.

 

[initforme]

In CA, that is minimum wage for a fast food worker.

Yep. But i don't care nor can control what California does. This state isn't affected by California.

 

[initforme]

Because there is a dearth of good, educated, skilled workers in the US. Everyone wants to become a millionaire with no skills.

So perhaps the workforce is waaaaaaay to big?

 

[Concerned American]

This state isn't affected by California.

I don't know what state you are in, but it definitely is affected by what that 10% of the US population in CA does. If you can't see that you are naive.

 

[initforme]

I don't know what state you are in, but it definitely is affected by what that 10% of the US population in CA does. If you can't see that you are naive.

Well I can't control it. So what would you like me to do? Suffer like Musk says I should I guess. Unnecessary.

 

[initforme]

Not necessarily. Once you are at a level that provides a comfortable life, many workers prioritze more family time, more leisure time for hobbies, less stress, etc.

People are seeing it's a mistake to focus on families. This isn't the 1990 america. This is now about individual survival. Don't want people on welfare then it's on the nation to encourage staying single and working.

 

[Concerned American]

Well I can't control it. So what would you like me to do? Suffer like Musk says I should I guess. Unnecessary.

Free market will find its own level. Whenever the government steps in to manipulate it artificially as they have done over the past five or so years, it produces the same outcome. FUBAR.

 

[BlackSand]

I have been trying to search for a job, for many months. I remember a few years ago, I would send out resume to a few postings and would easily get like 5, 6 interviews. But now, there is pretty much nothing. I made compromises, made sure my availability was good, and tried the best I could to make myself attractive to employers, but still nothing. And it's not just me, people I talk to online also seem to be having trouble finding jobs. It just seems that the economy is really bad right now.

I think a lot of people are happy that Trump won the election. I am sort of happy, in the sense that I am glad it wasn't a Dem who won. But I honestly don't think Trump would do much to make things better for the average people. It's the same in my country. Politicians, they are all the same. They talk a great deal, promising us this and that, but at the end of the day, they enrich themselves and their campaign donors, reward their cronies with money that comes from us, and they don't care about us at all. Nowadays I would settle for a prime minister that does not shaft us too badly. This is a sad thing to aim for, but it's how bad it is.

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Not directed necessarily at you ... But at anyone over 35.

Sometimes it is just the condition of the workforce and the bottom line.
Making yourself valuable to an employer ... Is most important when you are employed.
They have to want to keep you ... Want to pay you what you are worth ... And access all they can of your knowledge.

Those things used to be valuable when searching for a new job.
Nowadays ... It's not impossible, but less likely to help ...
Unless you are employed and recruited to work for someone else.

Someone previously employed and 35 or older ...
Has habits (good or bad) ... That are harder to change ... Work ethic ...
And a family that may interfere with availability and desired scheduling ...
Salary requirements ... And experience in the workplace.

Someone coming out of college/trade school fresh and unemployed ...
They are more pliable to purpose, in ideology ... More desperate ...
Easier to mold into the employee you want instead of the employee they are ...
And they cost less.

The best way to know that your time as an employee has past (minis the occasional right place/right time) ...
Is when everyone who turns you down for an interview is willing to tell you that you are overqualified for the job.

At that point ... Do like lg325 mentioned ... And figure out what you can do to be self-employed.

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[initforme]

The marriage rates is going yo continue to decrease. Butvso will the welfare. So it's a win win all the way arounf.

 

[initforme]

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Not directed necessarily at you ... But at anyone over 35.

Sometimes it is just the condition of the workforce and the bottom line.
Making yourself valuable to an employer ... Is most important when you are employed.
They have to want to keep you ... Want to pay you what you are worth ... And access all they can of your knowledge.

Those things used to be valuable when searching for a new job.
Nowadays ... It's not impossible, but less likely to help ...
Unless you are employed and recruited to work for someone else.

Someone previously employed and 35 or older ...
Has habits (good or bad) ... That are harder to change ... Work ethic ...
And a family that may interfere with availability and desired scheduling ...
Salary requirements ... And experience in the workplace.

Someone coming out of college/trade school fresh and unemployed ...
They are more pliable to purpose, in ideology ... More desperate ...
Easier to mold into the employee you want instead of the employee they are ...
And they cost less.

The best way to know that your time as an employee has past (minis the occasional right place/right time) ...
Is when everyone who turns you down for an interview is willing to tell you that you are overqualified for the job.

At that point ... Do like lg325 mentioned ... And figure out what you can do to be self-employed.

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Great advice. Tens of millions can form their own business. Work by yourself. Don't hire.

 

[Concerned American]

The marriage rates is going yo continue to decrease. Butvso will the welfare. So it's a win win all the way arounf.

Single people without children are not eligible for welfare. As for your contention that low skilled employees are worth exorbitant wages--think of it this way. Would you pay $2,250,000 for a KIA Sephia because that is what a Bugatti Veyron costs? Yeah, I wouldn't pay $20/hr for a burger flipper because that is what a higher skilled worker gets either.

 

[Concerned American]

Great advice. Tens of millions can form their own business. Work by yourself. Don't hire.

Don't work for an employer. Starve.

 

[initforme]

Single people without children are not eligible for welfare. As for your contention that low skilled employees are worth exorbitant wages--think of it this way. Would you pay $2,250,000 for a KIA Sephia because that is what a Bugatti Veyron costs? Yeah, I wouldn't pay $20/hr for a burger flipper because that is what a higher skilled worker gets either.

I see your point. But a higher skilled worker today is worth a TON more than $20 hour. Pay me that and I laugh at you. Higher skilled workers in america should be st $60 per hour or more as that's what the law end is. My son can make $64.50 per hour working from home. And he is retiring. He's supposed to fly to Nevada next Tuesday. He won't be on the plane. He will inform his boss Sunday. Thd hr has been informed of his pending retirement. Proud of him. This is capitalism 101.

 

[initforme]

Don't work for an employer. Starve.

Employers aren't entitled to an workforce like emoyees aren't entitled to a job. Win win for thr nation

 

[initforme]

Single people without children are not eligible for welfare. As for your contention that low skilled employees are worth exorbitant wages--think of it this way. Would you pay $2,250,000 for a KIA Sephia because that is what a Bugatti Veyron costs? Yeah, I wouldn't pay $20/hr for a burger flipper because that is what a higher skilled worker gets either.

Agreed. On the dingle people. But they can work, save, and not reproduce. They can retire earlier. That's called a big time win.