Can you be critical of your own side?

"I don't belong to any party" is your tribe. You just don't want to be critical of your own choices.

There is some truth in that, and that is why Independents tend to be believe they are more 'thoughtful', and why Libertarians are so damn thoughtful that they have a hard time agreeing with each other. Go to a Libertarian website and I guarantee you that you can find two Libertarians arguing with each other about whether or not the other one is a Libertarian.

Until we figure out how to stop people from thinking that being guided by their principles, means letting their principles guide them into a corner where all they can do is throw down stakes marking territory, and start throwing people who disagree with them out to the wolves, nothing will ever change.

We are all in this together, like it or not.
 
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I agree with you and have the same feelings. Trump is kind of an A-hole at times, says cringe worthy things at the wrong times.. there a lot of things about him that I wish was different. I wish he was more presidential and less likely to snipe someone verbally.

Thoug I do understand him being pissed off after the attempt to set him up for Russian Collussion and destroy his first presidency.

And as for swollen ego.. I do suppose it comes along as part of the package that includes his ability to survive under pressure.

He never would have been my first thought as someone to run for president but what really pulled me ove rto his side was the reaaction to him by the Democrats... that was all I needed. After seeing all th elies they constantly put out about him to destroy him... it made all the things about him that I COULD complain about very small in comparisson.

Therefore I rarely complain about Trump? why do it when we constantly are forced to defend him over the relentless B.S. ?

In this way, the Democratic party has really hurt themselves but they are entirely to stupid and greedy to see it.
Someone once said, "You can judge someone by the enemies he makes."
Trump has made the finest enemies: Marxists, liars, frauds, weirdos, creeps and, of course, the mainstream media, which deserves nothing but our eternal scorn and animosity. When I saw the reaction to Trump winning the Presidency in 2016, I knew I'd found someone I could get behind, warts and all. I've never regretted it for one second.
 
If that's all you have to offer, then that's a whole lot of nothing but the same old shit. So, how about you take that useless crap and go pound sand or try to come up with something better or more productive?

Unless of course you are perfectly satisfied with the pile of shit you are sitting in.
Apparently you couldn’t read my previous posts on this thread.... I guess the multi-syllable words are giving you some trouble.
 
You’ll see nobody on the right will hold their side accountable. Its pure cowardice. Who cares if the other side “piles” on you? It’s a message board. Grow a pair.
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Apparently you couldn’t read my previous posts on this thread.... I guess the multi-syllable words are giving you some trouble.

I seriously don't find much difference between any pile of shit you decide to offer around here, although the topics and discussions may vary greatly. But I am willing to say that I don't have a wealth of knowledge regarding your activities, have only encountered you in a few threads, and it possible you are far more intelligent, and far less useless, than I could have ever guessed.
 
I seriously don't find much difference between any pile of shit you decide to offer around here, although the topics and discussions may vary greatly. But I am willing to say that I don't have a wealth of knowledge regarding your activities, have only encountered you in a few threads, and it possible you are far more intelligent, and far less useless, than I could have ever guessed.


Now do you have anything you can offer in reference to the OP or are you just here to make an ass of yourself?
 
Now do you have anything you can offer in reference to the OP or are you just here to make an ass of yourself?

What part of multitude of responses I have posted in this thread responding to the OP did you happen to miss? And how the hell did what you just post address anything in the OP, or reflect anything other than what I have already indicated as the only pile of shit you ever have to offer? You might be just as dumb and useless as I think after all.
 
Someone once said, "You can judge someone by the enemies he makes."
Trump has made the finest enemies: Marxists, liars, frauds, weirdos, creeps and, of course, the mainstream media, which deserves nothing but our eternal scorn and animosity. When I saw the reaction to Trump winning the Presidency in 2016, I knew I'd found someone I could get behind, warts and all. I've never regretted it for one second.
So Bush, Cheney and company....they are “marxists, liars, frauds, weirdos [and] creeps”? You voted for them...twice.

Care to explain?
 
What part of multitude of responses I have posted in this thread responding to the OP did you happen to miss? And how the hell did what you just post address anything in the OP, or reflect anything other than what I have already indicated as the only pile of shit you ever have to offer?
You can read my posts or you can decide not to read them. I don’t care either way.

Have a great day and try not to burn any crosses on the way home.
 
You can read my posts or you can decide not to read them. I don’t care either way.

Have a great day and try not to burn any crosses on the way home.

I hope when you say "have a great day" that means you're leaving. I cannot say that you were starting to stink up the place, that happened when you showed up. Sorry you have a problem with English, but not really sorry.
 
I hope when you say "have a great day" that means you're leaving. I cannot say that you were starting to stink up the place, that happened when you showed up. Sorry you have a problem with English, but not really sorry.

You should issue roadmaps with your posts. That way, they may make more sense to those interested in reading them.
 
Are you a true neutral or do you lean? Most lean.
Not really neutral, Think both party's stink.
Will always vote. its my duty. Very hard task,
picking out the best examples from All those who run for office.
Do understand why people pick a team.
Just not the best thing for America.
 
So Bush, Cheney and company....they are “marxists, liars, frauds, weirdos [and] creeps”? You voted for them...twice.

Care to explain?
Sure.
The world has changed. And I changed too.
It ain't that complicated. When I saw the harm that Bush/Cheney/McCain/Romney had caused us on balance, I realized I could no longer support that kind of agenda.
 
You should issue roadmaps with your posts. That way, they may make more sense to those interested in reading them.

You don't have to worry about providing any maps, because it always leads to a pile of shit like the one you just posted, although I have kind of suggested that far more than once.

I did ask you to shut up, go pound sand, or possibly leave, because you are incorrigible and useless to just about any discussion. Your assessment of what makes sense, was debunked quite a while ago, although my understanding that you are incorrigible doesn't suggest you will ever accept or understand that.

There's still a 75/25 chance you'll be stupid enough to say something else, but that might be too optimistic on my part, and I am just giving you the benefit of the doubt.
 
Sure.
The world has changed. And I changed too.
It ain't that complicated. When I saw the harm that Bush/Cheney/McCain/Romney had caused us on balance, I realized I could no longer support that kind of agenda.

What agenda was that?
 
What agenda was that?
Forever wars. Weakness when taking on the Democrats. Neglecting the middle class. Those are just a few. Not the worse people in the world (that's reserved for Democrats) but too comfortable with the status quo, too timid to break out and try some different approaches.
 
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I’m not asking what you think about the people you oppose. That part’s easy. Anyone can point out flaws in their enemies. What I’m interested in is whether you can be just as honest about the people you support. Can you look at your own side and call out the weaknesses, the bad habits, the blind spots, the corruption, the parts you wish were better? Most people claim they care about truth, but only apply scrutiny to the outgroup. I want to see how many here can apply the same lens inward. Be specific. Be fair. No whataboutism, no switching targets. Just your side, your critique, your honesty.
Asa matter of degree the left democrats have more failures than the conservatives. 4 years of Biden proved that. Sure I am not anti abortion I think the GOP invests too much in abortion. But comparing the two parties is easy. Lets examine the democrats policies
Open border
Weak crime policies putting people at risk
Massive debt based spending
Energy policies that will create a catastrophic shortage and high costs
Embracing socialist ideology
Gender absurdity
Endorsing a Jew Hating Muslim Marxist for mayor of NY
The cover up of Bidens severe dementia
The relentless hate speech
Democrat donors supporting the violent ICE riots
Democrats inserting regulations into our personal lives
Support for single mothers no father which is the main cause of crime and poverty
Foreign policies that helped Russia and Iran fund their wars.
The auto poen forgeries
The Trump Russia lie
Its not even close
 
Asa matter of degree the left democrats have more failures than the conservatives. 4 years of Biden proved that. Sure I am not anti abortion I think the GOP invests too much in abortion. But comparing the two parties is easy. Lets examine the democrats policies
Open border
Weak crime policies putting people at risk
Massive debt based spending
Energy policies that will create a catastrophic shortage and high costs
Embracing socialist ideology
Gender absurdity
Endorsing a Jew Hating Muslim Marxist for mayor of NY
The cover up of Bidens severe dementia
The relentless hate speech
Democrat donors supporting the violent ICE riots
Democrats inserting regulations into our personal lives
Support for single mothers no father which is the main cause of crime and poverty
Foreign policies that helped Russia and Iran fund their wars.
The auto poen forgeries
The Trump Russia lie
Its not even close
Beautiful summation. 👍
 
Not really neutral, Think both party's stink.
Will always vote. its my duty. Very hard task,
picking out the best examples from All those who run for office.
Do understand why people pick a team.
Just not the best thing for America.

Yeah, I got so wrapped up in the pursuit of my own political desires that I sat out the 2008 Presidential Election, although I did show up and vote for all the other offices or ballot measures. Oddly enough I figured out it accomplished exactly what it was intended to, and that was nothing.

Picking a team is not the best thing for America, the same as holding your nose and voting for the lesser of two evils, won't get you anywhere but evil.

We have to choose something though and start picking up the slack when our representatives fall short. When the people figure we are all on the same team, and the opposing team is the establishment, then maybe we can figure out how to start handling our affairs closer to home where we all have a say-so and further away from the federal government.

Our federal government was established as a democratically elected representative republic, and the individual states that comprise the union are closer to a democracy than the republic should ever be.
 
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