Can some Conservatives List All of the Nations That We're At War with--or Are At War With the US?

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Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.

This one's been going since 1979!!

the US has been at war with Iran since 1979,

Well in that case, we have been at war with Iran since 1979.

The war with Iran started in 1979 with the inept Carter.

It’s a react of war. Iran declared war on us in 1979 when they took our embassy workers prisoner.

Iran started this war in 1979.

Iran has been at war with the USA since 1979

war it’s (Iran) been waging on America since 1979.


Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
 
Don’t forget Canada
 
America is at war with Communism socialism Islamic and fanaticism. Our free market capitalist model over whelms and threatens them. Our people owned government is direct challenge to their government power over all. Thats also the goal of the democrat party
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
Iran has been the number one exporter of terrorism throughout the Middle East since their little revolution.

Not sure where you have been as they chant death to the US and Israel every day of their lives.

Now go back under your rock from whence you come.
 
Not sure where you have been as they chant death to the US and Israel every day of their lives.
So you think Iran will accept a government installed by the US and Israel?
 
Iran has been the number one exporter of terrorism throughout the Middle East since their little revolution.

Not sure where you have been as they chant death to the US and Israel every day of their lives.

Now go back under your rock from whence you come.

So why didn't your blob attack them in 2017, 2018, 2019 or 2020....or 2025 for that matter?

Perhaps you can take Trump's dick out of your mouth for a moment and ask him.
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
From one side of their mouth, the Neocons will claim that we're NOT currently at war with Iran while, out of the other side of their mouth, claim that we've been "at war" with Iran since 1979. I guess it's similar to Trump emphatically stating that there wouldn't be any new wars if he was elected President followed by the bombing of 8 nations and an actual war AFTER being elected. (By the way ... "peace loving" Trump has the record for bombing more nations in a year than any other President in American history).

These people are either schizophrenic or under mass hypnosis.

Proverbs 16:18, "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
 
Our free market capitalist model over whelms and threatens them.

We don't have free market capitalism.

We have central economic planning by a central bank.

We have a belief in deficit finance.

We have economic interventionism by government.

We have inflationism as a result.

We have a welfare state.

There's a glaring lack of understanding of proper definitions and understanding of what kinds of policies we actually have and you illustrate that general shortcoming perfectly here, as you routinely tend to do, observably, with regard to matters of economic theory and monetary policy.

We're so far removed from free-market capitalism that it is laughable to even call it that.
 
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Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















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So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.
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This is the crux of your point.

THe idea that becasue we have just cause to take action against someone, that that means that we need to explain why we are NOT immediately or currently taking action against them.

That is just dumb. Like retarded dumb.

The place for you to START, is to understand that in 1979, when Iran took the hostages, we were unable to respond appropriatedly because it was in the context of the COLD WAR.

Our primary focus was the threat from the Soviet Union, who would use any lesser conflict to bleed us and even possibly as a chance to attack while we were bogged down elsewhere.

This created a long period of time, where bad actors were able to do very bad things, ie ACTS OF WAR, and get away with it, becasue of the Cold War, limiting our ability to respond.

This has created several generations of leaders who think it is normal to commit acts of war against nations with vastly more power, and to be surprised when that does not work out for them. Or their people.


THIS is the first lesson, in a long march for you, to understand this issue. I expect you to fail to grasp it. Indeed, I expect your response to be incoherent word salad.
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
Ah, the Pandaporn shows up again. I was in Germany when the Embassy was taken over by Radical Islam. We had every F-4 loaded with bombs to send Tehran into oblivion. But that spineless guy named Jimmy Carter who told US to stand down. 47 years late and 10s of millions of innocent people murdered in the name of Allah, finally a man with a backbone, took down that 2nd most Evil son of a *****, next to Obama who is 1st, yet the job still isnt done, because of that festering of radical Islam funded by Obama and Biden. As for Hamas and Hezbollah and the Hooties, Iran directly funds them and gives them weapons to attack their neighbors regularly. Sorry that your brain in broke, that is the democrat party in a nutshell.
 
We don't have free market capitalism.

We have central economic planning by a central bank.

We have a belief in deficit finance.

We have economic interventionism by government.

We have inflationism as a result.

We have a welfare state.

There's a glaring lack of understanding of proper definitions and understanding of what kinds of policies we actually have and you illustrate that general shortcoming perfectly here, as you routinely tend to do, observably, with regard to matters of economic theory and monetary policy.

We're so far removed from free-market capitalism that it is laughable to even call it that.
When you can choose what you buy thats a free market.
 
So why didn't your blob attack them in 2017, 2018, 2019 or 2020....or 2025 for that matter?

Perhaps you can take Trump's dick out of your mouth for a moment and ask him.
Dunno who's dick is in your mouth, but it's doubtless one of many.

Obviously, they accrued information that half of their leadership would be gathered in a single place at one time. Only a weak-assed fool would pass up a chance to eliminate a who's who of terrorists in a single shot.
 
Dunno who's dick is in your mouth, but it's doubtless one of many.

Obviously, they accrued information that half of their leadership would be gathered in a single place at one time. Only a weak-assed fool would pass up a chance to eliminate a who's who of terrorists in a single shot.

And that is one very good and obvious answer.
 
Since last weekend in the befuddled attempt to justify our bombing of Iran, one of the tropes sadly trotted out was to reference the 1979 hostage taking in Tehran.


















Apparently, according to MAGA kidnapping Americans is an act of war....

So in the same spirit, I was hoping one of the MAGA supporters could list all of the nations that we're currently at war with/nations (or groups) that have declared war on us so we can discuss why Trump isn't bombing them as well.

For example, most recently HAMAS took Americans hostage--precisely what the Iranians did. But we haven't bombed them. But they're not alone. Lybia, Somalia, Mozambique, Japan, Israel, Syria, UAE, Italy, Russia, Pakistan, Cuba--just to name a few have all detained Americans in the last 20 years. Sometimes they died in custody.

So all of those nations have declared on war on us too then....right? Should be bomb them too?
In April 1983, Iran’s Lebanese arm bombed the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 17 Americans. Six months later, the group killed 241 U.S. servicemen at the Marine barracks in Beirut. In January 1984, Hezbollah assassinated the president of the American University of Beirut, Malcolm Kerr; in March it kidnapped, tortured, and killed CIA Station Chief William Buckley; and in September it bombed the U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut, killing 23, including two U.S. service members. In December 1984, the Lebanese terrorists hijacked a Kuwait Airways flight and tortured and killed two officials of the U.S. Agency for International Development, Charles Hegna and William Stanford. In June 1985, Hezbollah hijacked a TWA flight and tortured and murdered U.S. Navy diver Robert Stethem; and in July 1989, Hezbollah kidnapped, tortured, and killed U.S. Marine Col. William Higgins.
Hezbollah’s kidnapping, torturing, and murdering of Americans dropped off with the end of Lebanon’s civil wars in 1990, but Iranian-backed groups continued to kill U.S. forces throughout the region. The biggest attack was in Saudi Arabia when 19 U.S. Airmen were killed after a truck bomb drove into Khobar Towers June 25, 1996.
In his 2000 book The America We Deserve, Trump was rightly concerned about the possibility that Iran’s proxies might soon be operating under their sponsor’s nuclear umbrella. He wrote: “You can be assured that right now there are fanatics, whether they sit in the counsels of doomsday cults or in the cabinets of rogue states, who are plotting and waiting for their moment to strike. The question then is What can we do to best protect our cities? A lot more than you might think.”
As the number of U.S. troops killed by the Iranians in Iraq reached 603 in 2011, Trump spelled out what he’d do in his book published that year, Time to Get Tough. “America’s primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran’s nuclear program must be stopped—by any and all means necessary. Period. We cannot allow this radical regime to acquire a nuclear weapon that they will either use or hand off to terrorists.”
At the start of his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump said, “We need to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. We cannot allow a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.” Of the Barack Obama administration’s Iran nuclear agreement, the candidate said, it’s “very dangerous. Iran developing a nuclear weapon, either through uranium or nuclear fuel, and defying the world is still a very real possibility. The inspections will not be followed, and Iran will no longer have any sanctions. Iran gets everything and loses nothing.”
During his first term, Trump withdrew from Obama’s deal and imposed sanctions on Iran to force it to abandon its nuclear program. On the campaign trail for the 2024 race, Trump warned against the prospect of an Iranian bomb many dozens of times. Most significantly, after Joe Biden told Israel to refrain from hitting Iran’s nuclear facilities, Trump blasted his rival. “That’s the thing you want to hit, right?” said Trump. “It’s the biggest risk we have, nuclear weapons.”
Maybe a handful of very low-information voters—i.e., Americans who live in caves or are otherwise cut off from civilization—who went with Trump for the first time in 2024 were unaware of his long and well-documented statements about Iran, its nuclear weapons program, and the war it’s been waging on America since 1979. But for media celebrities, like Carlson, Kelly, Walsh, and the rest who pride themselves on knowing “what time it is,” it’s inconceivable they didn’t know about Trump and Iran. So what’s really going on?

The name given to the Iran campaign, Operation Epic Fury, suggests that Donald Trump’s political trajectory may have begun with the 1979 embassy takeover. It was plain proof that America was losing, and it inspired him to turn things around. America’s defeat in Vietnam, left-wing political violence, and rampant drug use left our country sucking wind during the ’70s. But the embassy siege was a public humiliation that lasted 444 days, during which the revolutionary cadres ground our faces in excrement: “The United States has made threats and raised a great deal of noise,” said Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. “America can’t do a damn thing.” And because America didn’t do a damn thing, it acclimated itself to losing to Iran and its regional allies.
President Reagan rolled back the Soviet empire but blinked after the Iranians directed Hezbollah to kill U.S. armed forces, spies, and diplomats in Beirut. Bill Clinton admitted he was a loser. After the U.S. president spent political capital and personal prestige to bully Israel into giving up land to create a state under the Iranian revolutionaries’ old friend Yasser Arafat, the Palestinian terror master told Clinton no. “I’m a colossal failure,” Clinton told Arafat. “And you made me one.”
George W. Bush’s global war on terror turned Iran into a regional hegemon, presiding over what was for a time known as the Shiite crescent, reaching from the Persian Gulf to the eastern Mediterranean. Democratizing Iraq meant ensuring power would rest with the country’s Shiite majority, whose political leaders, with few exceptions, were controlled by Tehran. Even though the administration had been warned that elections in the Palestinian territories would lead to a Hamas victory, Bush’s Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice pushed for elections, which the Iranian-backed terror group won, leading to Hamas’ eventual takeover of Gaza. As if the freedom agenda hadn’t done enough harm to American regional interests, Bush stopped Israel’s 2006 war against Hezbollah to protect a Lebanese government the administration saw as a beacon of democracy, even if it was controlled by Hezbollah.

Who Wants This War? Winners. - Tablet Magazine https://share.google/ZAnPcWEQZeivQfncC
 
From one side of their mouth, the Neocons will claim that we're NOT currently at war with Iran while, out of the other side of their mouth, claim that we've been "at war" with Iran since 1979. I guess it's similar to Trump emphatically stating that there wouldn't be any new wars if he was elected President followed by the bombing of 8 nations and an actual war AFTER being elected. (By the way ... "peace loving" Trump has the record for bombing more nations in a year than any other President in American history).

These people are either schizophrenic or under mass hypnosis.

Proverbs 16:18, "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."
What is your definition of a neocon?
 
What is your definition of a neocon?
One who dons the title "Conservative" while ignoring Constitutional mandates and norms. Generally a politician who puts money and profits (sometimes at the cost of American lives) above basic, moral standards and "America First" values. They're usually quick to rush to war and will create false narratives and outright lies to justify it.
 
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One who dons the title "Conservative" while ignoring Constitutional mandates and norms. Generally a politician who puts money and profits (sometimes at the cost of American lives) above basic, moral standards and "America First" values. They're usually quick to rush to war and will create false narratives and outright lies to justify it.
Just as I thought

You have no clue

Neocons are former old school democrats in the tradition of Harry Truman and JFK who would say they didnt leave the Democrat party, it left them

They were full blown libs on social issues but hawks on foreign policy

Most of them gone now thanks to Father Time
 
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Not sure where you have been as they chant death to the US and Israel every day of their lives.
Yet trump, after unnecessarily bombing the country, accidently killing approx. 160 school children, giving Iranians even more reasons to hate the US, thinks Iran is going to replace the old regime with someone favorable to him? Does that make sense to you?
 

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