Can Islam Be Civilized?

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Can Islam Be Civilized?
Islam is as civilized as any other religious faith, if one is to believe religions are civilized.

Radical Islam which seems to occupy yr mind, is just as bad as radical other religions.

Now, please stop with all your hatred and sickness. Be consistent and principled in either attacking "religion" or defending it..
 
Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they are not civilized. I’ve visited many Islamic countries. Their crime rates are far below the crime rates in the United States.
 
And who knows when the broken clock will finally be right. Proven reserves matter, fantasies don't. Keep the foreign oil cheap and we do fine. Sooner or later Putin falls, the Mullahs fall, and new deals are made.
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I value my own intellect considerably higher than that of a verbose wet Salad .
But he was right and sufficient to say that
Nothing is Sacrosant .

The rest is padding and is there to justify his salary .
imho .
Waiting for you to show it.
 
And who knows when the broken clock will finally be right. Proven reserves matter, fantasies don't. Keep the foreign oil cheap and we do fine. Sooner or later Putin falls, the Mullahs fall, and new deals are made.
Cheap foreign oil??????

Do you know the difference between WTI and Brent???????
 
Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they are not civilized. I’ve visited many Islamic countries. Their crime rates are far below the crime rates in the United States.
My definition of civilized differs from yours. I see the execution of girls in Iran for simply speaking their minds not to be civilized. Saudi Arabia beheads individuals for denying Allah. Civilized people do not do that in my world.
 
Islam is as civilized as any other religious faith, if one is to believe religions are civilized.

Radical Islam which seems to occupy yr mind, is just as bad as radical other religions.

Now, please stop with all your hatred and sickness. Be consistent and principled in either attacking "religion" or defending it..

40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03 https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/violence-in-defense-of-islam-statistics/



Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com



*much more here:

Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com












www.thereligionofpeace.com



Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. Muslim Opinion Polls







Still, we need only look to the many polls to affirm the alarmingly high percentages of Muslims (hundreds-of-millions in number) who seek, through the most violent means imaginable, Islamic world domination. Again, here are but a few:

83 percent of Palestinian Muslims, 62 percent of Jordanians and 61 percent of Egyptians approve of jihadist attacks on Americans. World Public Opinion Poll(2009).

1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half their total population. ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015.

Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015).

38.6 percent of Western Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified. Gallup(2011).

45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).

38 percent of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (Forty-three percent disagree.) The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

One-third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam. Center for Social Cohesion (Wikileaks cable).

78 percent of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons. NOP Research.

80 percent of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with holy war against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. Motivaction Survey (2014).

Nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable. The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

68 percent of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam. NOP Research.

51 percent of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Shariah courts rather than courts of the United States (only 39 percent disagree).The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

81 percent of Muslim respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). Al-Jazeerapoll (2015).

Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the moderate Muslim: Even as we hear of the occasional sighting, most reasonable people remain skeptical as to whether, in reality, these mysterious creatures even exist.

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“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.”– The Quran, Surah 9:5When it comes
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So you're a Democrat, huh?
 
Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they are not civilized. I’ve visited many Islamic countries. Their crime rates are far below the crime rates in the United States.

40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03 https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/violence-in-defense-of-islam-statistics/



Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com



*much more here:

Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com












www.thereligionofpeace.com



Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. Muslim Opinion Polls







Still, we need only look to the many polls to affirm the alarmingly high percentages of Muslims (hundreds-of-millions in number) who seek, through the most violent means imaginable, Islamic world domination. Again, here are but a few:

83 percent of Palestinian Muslims, 62 percent of Jordanians and 61 percent of Egyptians approve of jihadist attacks on Americans. World Public Opinion Poll(2009).

1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half their total population. ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015.

Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015).

38.6 percent of Western Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified. Gallup(2011).

45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).

38 percent of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (Forty-three percent disagree.) The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

One-third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam. Center for Social Cohesion (Wikileaks cable).

78 percent of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons. NOP Research.

80 percent of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with holy war against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. Motivaction Survey (2014).

Nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable. The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

68 percent of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam. NOP Research.

51 percent of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Shariah courts rather than courts of the United States (only 39 percent disagree).The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

81 percent of Muslim respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). Al-Jazeerapoll (2015).

Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the moderate Muslim: Even as we hear of the occasional sighting, most reasonable people remain skeptical as to whether, in reality, these mysterious creatures even exist.

townhall.com












“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.”– The Quran, Surah 9:5When it comes
townhall.com




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My definition of civilized differs from yours. I see the execution of girls in Iran for simply speaking their minds not to be civilized. Saudi Arabia beheads individuals for denying Allah. Civilized people do not do that in my world.
Yup.

I walked in the streets of Cairo at night, with jewelry........no prob.

That's the result of them chopping off hands.
 
So who or what can solve the millennia old problems with radical Islam?

Simple: an amazing businessman/President who solves problems.



1. To make the IMEC possible, Iran and its proxies, and Gaza have to be pacified, so that Saudi Arabia is comfortable joint the West in the project. You see Iran being dealt with today.



2. AI Overview
  • On November 17, 2025, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 2803, formally endorsing the U.S.-backed "Board of Peace" (BoP) as a transitional administration for Gaza's reconstruction and security, following a two-year conflict. Initiated by U.S. President Donald Trump, this board is designed to oversee, fund, and stabilize the territory until the Palestinian Authority completes reforms


3. Trump is chairman for life. 26 nations gave $billion each to join, No nations who do not join will use the IMEC “New Silk Road.”
  • Haifa and Gaza will be the terminus with Gaza as a commercial hub and “New Middle East Riviera.”


4. Now, about that new demilitarize and “terror free” Gaza?
  • The Board of Peace appointed Jasper Jeffers as the commander of the International Stabilization Force, former head of Special Forces, with a
  • 20,000 man private military…………and Egypt and Jordan will train a 12,000 man police force.


5. Can the combined pressure of Trump's Western coalition and the Middle East contingnent actually solve the problem of Islamic bloodlust?????????



One can only hope.
 
Yes, this is political, and will be answered in these two posts.

1. Of course Democrats see no problem with Islam,. as they share the same view of humal life with the 7th century barbaric view. Let me take you back to 2001, after the NYC bombing, when she wrote:"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity,"
Of course tongue in cheek, but if one looks at the headlines today...............


2. Politics, religion and economics are intertwined in the news. The UAE and Saudi Arabia might even agree with Coulter when it comes to Iran. Did you know that a number of the Gulf states will no longer send their sons to Western universities due to the radicalization?
But the UAE and Saudi Arabia have spent $billions builing land pipelines to avoid the Straits of Hormuz, and also the Red Sea and Suez.


3. India offered the IMEC plan:
AI Overview
The India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC) is a planned, multi-modal transportation and energy network designed to link India to Europe via the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Israel, acting as a strategic alternative to maritime routes,...


4. Gulf refineries woulld send Diesel, Jet fuel, petrochemicals, and ultimately hydrogen to the Mediterranean and then to Europe.
Cables would offer solar generated electricity.
All much faster and more reliably.


5. The fly in the ointment? Muslims.
Saudi Arabia cannot be part of this venture if Muslims are being killed in Gaza, and this is exacty what the radicals, with the Democra sts aid, plan to continue forever.
Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al, will never allow normalization with the West (Democrats no longer represent the West).

The answer is in the second post......................

Like American religions, there are MANY different sects of it. It's not all "one and the same".

I've worked with some Islamists that believe in the core values of it, but not to the extreme point where they must kill everybody who disagrees with them. They want to believe in what they believe, and not be judged for it. They interact with other religious people, they have civil discussions, and they raise families that are well-behaved and have respect for others beliefs.

But as I've stated in other posts..........what we are seeing on TV aren't the MAJORITY, it's the MINORITY of them that are the extremsist terrorist threats. This is what the "news" does. They take one TINY little flaw and blow it up all out of proportion so everybody thinks its the entire Muslim faith that wants a holy war with the world. Not all of them do.

If you have ever been thrown into the fire with an entire stereotype of people you identify with, then you know what I'm talking about.
I have, and I do.

In baking, you have to separate the yolks from the whites in order to make something yummie.
In religion, you have to separate the lunatics from those that just want to practice in peace.

I have pity for those Muslims truly looking for a safer and better world for themselves and their kids.
They get thrown in with the lunatics and stark raviing maniacal dictators that want a holy war. Sad.
 
40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03 https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/10/06/violence-in-defense-of-islam-statistics/



Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com



*much more here:

Challenging the myth of a 'tiny minority of extremists'
www.thereligionofpeace.com












www.thereligionofpeace.com



Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence? That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone. Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number. However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this. In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined. Muslim Opinion Polls







Still, we need only look to the many polls to affirm the alarmingly high percentages of Muslims (hundreds-of-millions in number) who seek, through the most violent means imaginable, Islamic world domination. Again, here are but a few:

83 percent of Palestinian Muslims, 62 percent of Jordanians and 61 percent of Egyptians approve of jihadist attacks on Americans. World Public Opinion Poll(2009).

1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half their total population. ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015.

Two-thirds of Palestinians support the stabbing of Israeli civilians. Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (2015).

38.6 percent of Western Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified. Gallup(2011).

45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).

38 percent of Muslim-Americans say Islamic State (ISIS) beliefs are Islamic or correct. (Forty-three percent disagree.) The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

One-third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam. Center for Social Cohesion (Wikileaks cable).

78 percent of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons. NOP Research.

80 percent of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with holy war against non-believers. Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters. Motivaction Survey (2014).

Nearly one-third of Muslim-Americans agree that violence against those who insult Muhammad or the Quran is acceptable. The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

68 percent of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam. NOP Research.

51 percent of Muslim-Americans say that Muslims should have the choice of being judged by Shariah courts rather than courts of the United States (only 39 percent disagree).The Polling Company CSP Poll (2015).

81 percent of Muslim respondents support the Islamic State (ISIS). Al-Jazeerapoll (2015).

Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster and the moderate Muslim: Even as we hear of the occasional sighting, most reasonable people remain skeptical as to whether, in reality, these mysterious creatures even exist.

townhall.com












“When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.”– The Quran, Surah 9:5When it comes
townhall.com

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So you're a Democrat, huh?

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Israel lied to us about the start of the 67 war...




Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first. ISRAEL LIED ABOUT BEING ATTACKED FROM GAZA AS A PRELUDE TO A PLANNED INVASION OF GAZA) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.



So why was LBJ "expecting" Israel to lie about being attacked and invade?

Why did LBJ go on TV and claim Israel was attacked when it was not?

Did LBJ use the 'nam war to steal weapons from the US taxpayer meant for Army and Marines in 'nam and ship them to Israel for free?



Then we got reports the IDF was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate those claims...











The claims of what "radical Islam" has done to us are 95%+ lies covering up for Mossad hate hoaxes.
 
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The sickness PoliticalChic has been swimming in for ages. But these tidbits, she pulled up from 2014. 12 years ago. She has them polluting her 'puters and devises, as they are no longer available online -- yet she cluelessly posts them.

 
Israel lied to us about the start of the 67 war...




Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first. ISRAEL LIED ABOUT BEING ATTACKED FROM GAZA AS A PRELUDE TO A PLANNED INVASION OF GAZA) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.



So why was LBJ "expecting" Israel to lie about being attacked and invade?

Why did LBJ go on TV and claim Israel was attacked when it was not?

Did LBJ use the 'nam war to steal weapons from the US taxpayer meant for Army and Marines in 'nam and ship them to Israel for free?



Then we got reports the IDF was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate those claims...











The claims of what "radical Islam" has done to us are 95%+ lies covering up for Mossad hate hoaxes.
And the USS Liberty
 
No. No ancient religion can be civilized, because all of them contain horrible, primitive morality.

People can be civilized, which in large part is measured by the degree to which they IGNORE the nasty parts of their favorite, primitive mythology.
 

The sickness PoliticalChic has been swimming in for ages. But these tidbits, she pulled up from 2014. 12 years ago. She has them polluting her 'puters and devises, as they are no longer available online -- yet she cluelessly posts them.

So, instead of berating her for what she feels and thinks, why don't you tell us what YOU think the correct way is????

Or can't you, because people telling the truth about reality hurts your feelsies?
 
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