Can Islam Be Civilized?

[EMH]

And the USS Liberty

and 911, JFK, MLK, RFK, Marines in Lebanon 1983 hate hoaxed on Hezbo etc. etc....

 

[Dante]

So, instead of berating her for what she feels and thinks, why don't you tell us what YOU think the correct way is????

Or can't you, because people telling the truth about reality hurts your feelsies?

First off (you jerk-ofF), the OP had a post with "40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam."

Indonesia has the world's largest Muslim population, with approximately 240–243 million Muslims as of 2024–2026, representing about 87–88% of the country's total population. The vast majority are Sunni, and Indonesia is home to roughly 12–13% of the world's total Muslim population.

5 facts about Muslims and Christians in Indonesia

Indonesia is about 87% Muslim and 11% Christian. Roughly 242 million Muslims and 29 million Christians live in Indonesia.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[Dante]

Interesting.

Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they are not civilized. I’ve visited many Islamic countries. Their crime rates are far below the crime rates in the United States.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I was hoping that the discussion focused on the brilliance of Trump's Board of Peace, which solves poverty in Gaza and neutralizes the insane fanatical Muslims.

The BoP continues with Trump as chairman after his presidential term.


But.............TDS seems to prevail.




So who or what can solve the millennia old problems with radical Islam?

Simple: an amazing businessman/President who solves problems.



1. To make the IMEC possible, Iran and its proxies, and Gaza have to be pacified, so that Saudi Arabia is comfortable joint the West in the project. You see Iran being dealt with today.



2. AI Overview

• On November 17, 2025, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 2803, formally endorsing the U.S.-backed "Board of Peace" (BoP) as a transitional administration for Gaza's reconstruction and security, following a two-year conflict. Initiated by U.S. President Donald Trump, this board is designed to oversee, fund, and stabilize the territory until the Palestinian Authority completes reforms

3. Trump is chairman for life. 26 nations gave $billion each to join, No nations who do not join will use the IMEC “New Silk Road.”

• Haifa and Gaza will be the terminus with Gaza as a commercial hub and “New Middle East Riviera.”

4. Now, about that new demilitarize and “terror free” Gaza?

• The Board of Peace appointed Jasper Jeffers as the commander of the International Stabilization Force, former head of Special Forces, with a
• 20,000 man private military…………and Egypt and Jordan will train a 12,000 man police force.

5. Can the combined pressure of Trump's Western coalition and the Middle East contingnent actually solve the problem of Islamic bloodlust?????????



One can only hope.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Cheap foreign oil??????

Do you know the difference between WTI and Brent???????

We can get cheaper oil by simply refusing to get extorted like punks every time some sheep herder gets all mad n shit.

Do you know how much it costs to pump oil? It was just $60 a bl wholesale while ago; you think the cost of pumping went up? It didn't.

We can also get cheaper transportation costs from Canada and Venezuela; oh wait, we already do, so we don't need the ME at all.

Why are you all butthurt over questioning whether that unstable land route to India might not be a great idea? Are you going senile, like Robert?

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Just because someone is Muslim does not mean they are not civilized. I’ve visited many Islamic countries. Their crime rates are far below the crime rates in the United States.

That's because the govt. has a monoply on criminal activities, and they kill the competition, is all. They still have a lot of crime, you just don't see it as much, since they don't run cop shows 24/7.

And, stoning 12 year old girls for learning to read and write isn't a crime in those shitholes, and neither are clan wars over hashish fields and opium processing plants.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

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Ah, and you wrote this book, based on your own research and exploratory drilling? So where is this endless sea of oil?

 

[Failzero]

If a Black A list actor can portray the Prophet ( Muhammad ) in a big budget Epic movie then we know Islam can be civilized

 

[Robert W]

Ah, and you wrote this book, based on your own research and exploratory drilling?

No. Gold was magnificent in his knowledge of geology.

I am not clear as to who decided crude had stopped being created in the deep earth, but given how deep crude is found, it is remarkable some believe it stopped being created.

My personal level of understanding crude production was when on a job in San Francisco where I was the assistant superintendent, I used company money to buy a book that was mostly about crude oil production for Gulf Oil.
In that book was mentioned oil well depths and it hit me then, if it was in the earth 6 or more miles deep, how did it get there. Gold's book goes into detail how it got so deep.

 

[Failzero]

If a Black A list actor can portray the Prophet ( Muhammad ) in a big budget Epic movie then we know Islam can be civilized

Bump for effect

 

[jackflash]

Yes, this is political, and will be answered in these two posts.

1. Of course Democrats see no problem with Islam,. as they share the same view of humal life with the 7th century barbaric view. Let me take you back to 2001, after the NYC bombing, when she wrote:"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity,"
Of course tongue in cheek, but if one looks at the headlines today...............


2. Politics, religion and economics are intertwined in the news. The UAE and Saudi Arabia might even agree with Coulter when it comes to Iran. Did you know that a number of the Gulf states will no longer send their sons to Western universities due to the radicalization?
But the UAE and Saudi Arabia have spent $billions builing land pipelines to avoid the Straits of Hormuz, and also the Red Sea and Suez.


3. India offered the IMEC plan:
AI Overview
The India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor (IMEC) is a planned, multi-modal transportation and energy network designed to link India to Europe via the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Israel, acting as a strategic alternative to maritime routes,...


4. Gulf refineries woulld send Diesel, Jet fuel, petrochemicals, and ultimately hydrogen to the Mediterranean and then to Europe.
Cables would offer solar generated electricity.
All much faster and more reliably.


5. The fly in the ointment? Muslims.
Saudi Arabia cannot be part of this venture if Muslims are being killed in Gaza, and this is exacty what the radicals, with the Democra sts aid, plan to continue forever.
Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, et al, will never allow normalization with the West (Democrats no longer represent the West).

The answer is in the second post......................

Their remains only two sides to a coin, heads ya win, tails ya lose. Trying to civilize the islamos is tantamount to trying to civilize adolf hitler like it just can't be done. With islam it's "tails" every time.

 

[Robert W]

We can get cheaper oil by simply refusing to get extorted like punks every time some sheep herder gets all mad n shit.

Do you know how much it costs to pump oil? It was just $60 a bl wholesale while ago; you think the cost of pumping went up? It didn't.

We can also get cheaper transportation costs from Canada and Venezuela; oh wait, we already do, so we don't need the ME at all.

Why are you all butthurt over questioning whether that unstable land route to India might not be a great idea? Are you going senile, like Robert?

You seem to be whom is butthurt. Why can't you discuss in an educated fashion?

 

[Failzero]

If Islamists can avoid gettin butt hurt over an A list Black Actor playing the Prophet ( Muhammad ) in a big budget epic movie then we know

 

[WEATHER53]

That's because the govt. has a monoply on criminal activities, and they kill the competition, is all. They still have a lot of crime, you just don't see it as much, since they don't run cop shows 24/7.

And, stoning 12 year old girls for learning to read and write isn't a crime in those shitholes, and neither are clan wars over hashish fields and opium processing plants.

Islam is perfect for the 15th century and they wsnt the planet set back to then

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Typical AI slop aside, here is the list of accomplishments by Trump's Board of Peace grift:

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel lied to us about the start of the 67 war...

https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/CIA-Analysis-1967-War.pdf

Helms was awakened at 3:00 in the morning on 5 June by a call from the CIA Operations Center. The Foreign Broadcast Information Service had picked up reports that Israel had launched its attack. (OCI soon concluded that the Israelis—contrary to their claims—had fired first. ISRAEL LIED ABOUT BEING ATTACKED FROM GAZA AS A PRELUDE TO A PLANNED INVASION OF GAZA) President Johnson was gratified that because of CIA analyses and Helms’s tip, he could inform congressional leaders later in the day that he had been expecting Israel’s move.



So why was LBJ "expecting" Israel to lie about being attacked and invade?

Why did LBJ go on TV and claim Israel was attacked when it was not?

Did LBJ use the 'nam war to steal weapons from the US taxpayer meant for Army and Marines in 'nam and ship them to Israel for free?



Then we got reports the IDF was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate those claims...

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The claims of what "radical Islam" has done to us are 95%+ lies covering up for Mossad hate hoaxes.

Then we got reports the IDF was exterminating the residents of Gaza. We sent the USS Liberty to investigate those claims...

Baloney.

 

[Robert W]

Typical AI slop aside, here is the list of accomplishments by Trump's Board of Peace grift:

Let's sum up Fort Fun Indians contributions this way.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

No. Gold was magnificent in his knowledge of geology.

I am not clear as to who decided crude had stopped being created in the deep earth, but given how deep crude is found, it is remarkable some believe it stopped being created.

My personal level of understanding crude production was when on a job in San Francisco where I was the assistant superintendent, I used company money to buy a book that was mostly about crude oil production for Gulf Oil.
In that book was mentioned oil well depths and it hit me then, if it was in the earth 6 or more miles deep, how did it get there. Gold's book goes into detail how it got so deep.

His theory has been around a long time. It still isn't proven. As I said, proven reserves matter, fantasies and wishful thinking don't when it comes to planning policies.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

You seem to be whom is butthurt. Why can't you discuss in an educated fashion?

I'm not butthurt, but you guys certainly are. Europe doesn't need a pipeline to India, India does, and it will run through more shitholes than Iran. Running them from the Gulf states to Europe is more likely and doable, and in fact is already being done. India likes to pretend it's 'neutral', so let it do it's own land routes. You guys need to keep shifting the topic and sniveling.

 

[Robert W]

His theory has been around a long time. It still isn't proven. As I said, proven reserves matter, fantasies and wishful thinking don't when it comes to planning policies.

So you did know of his book that included his proofs.