California Proposition 1

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California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN
 
California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN
Which will be instantly trashed
 
California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN
cali voted for it,, now you/they have to live with it,,
 
California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN

As opposed to just throwing people away?

Homelessness is a complex problem and there no fast and easy fix. I speak as a person who worked with the Homeless and at risk of Homeless.

I've read Prop. 1 and I have voted for Prop 1 (absentee voting). Newsom is NOT shipping Homeless to other states. Nor is he putting razor wire in the water, ReNaziKlan Governors do. Nor is Governor Newsom selling Gold Sneakers that are not yet in the process of manufactured and he sure as hell has not sold non-existent trading cards with money that does not exist. You want to talk about throwing money, you people do it gladly.
 
California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN
The illegal alien issue is STRICTLY POLITICAL in nature. Governor Noose'em could care less about the illegals well being, or for that matter his constituency's well being also. Profe$$ional politician$, don't leave sanity without them!
 
As opposed to just throwing people away?

Homelessness is a complex problem and there no fast and easy fix. I speak as a person who worked with the Homeless and at risk of Homeless.

I've read Prop. 1 and I have voted for Prop 1 (absentee voting). Newsom is NOT shipping Homeless to other states. Nor is he putting razor wire in the water, ReNaziKlan Governors do. Nor is Governor Newsom selling Gold Sneakers that are not yet in the process of manufactured and he sure as hell has not sold non-existent trading cards with money that does not exist. You want to talk about throwing money, you people do it gladly.
Why did they leave their homes to be homeless here
 
California is struggling to deal with a spiraling homelessness crisis. Our state has more than 181,000 homeless people — a number that has increased a mind-bending 40% since 2019, per a CalMatters report. Whatever the state government is doing, it’s not working.

And what it’s doing, mainly, is throwing money at the problem. Figures from last year peg state homeless spending at $7.2 billion a year, or $42,000 per homeless person.

Instead of rethinking the state’s failed approach, Gov. Gavin Newsom wants to throw more money at the problem and give state agencies — rather than local governments, which generally have done a better job — more power to control funding.

“Housing First” diverts money from programs that could help the homeless get back on their feet toward a utopian concept that views homelessness mainly as a housing matter. Given the mental-health and addiction issues that are a main reason many people are homeless, it’s unwise to base state policy on the idea that the main solution is just giving them a permanent home. Even if it were a sound approach, the state has shown itself incapable of building affordable housing quickly and cost effectively, with many projects costing $800,000 or more a unit.

Well hell, that's one way to make a terrible problem much worse. The Democrat way, throw money at the problem and cross your fingers.

MSN
Tough issue.

the average rent for a 1 br apartment in LA County is $2600/mo.
Assuming that is 1/3 of gross income that puts the income required to afford a 1 br apt at $7400/mo or $55/hour.

the average hourly wage for a worker inn LA county is $22.

Thus the average hourly worker would need an additional $33 per hour to afford a minimal home.

BUT
Raising those wages would only serve to increase prices meaning this is not a wage issue.

The issue is availability.
Get in an airplane and fly from San Diego to San Francisco between the coast and I5. What you'll see is there is no place to build. What land that can be built on, is built along with lots of places they should never have built.

So how do we increase supply?

1. Build lots of homes. Not 3 BR pool size homes but build vertically. Mini-City apartment complexes housing thousands in a vertical environment with shopping, medical, school and child care available within the community.
and
2. Build effective, fast, and widely available mass transit.

California is a lab experiment in the social impact of huge wealth disparities with billionaires living in hundred million dollar mansions, when they're at home and homeless people on the street outside the mansion.

Why doesn't NY with 20 million people in the ther 13,300 SM metro area have the same level of homelessness as CA with 39 million people spread over 164,000 SM? Because housing in NY is vertical. The American dream is crushing California.
 
Tough issue.

the average rent for a 1 br apartment in LA County is $2600/mo.
Assuming that is 1/3 of gross income that puts the income required to afford a 1 br apt at $7400/mo or $55/hour.

the average hourly wage for a worker inn LA county is $22.

Thus the average hourly worker would need an additional $33 per hour to afford a minimal home.

BUT
Raising those wages would only serve to increase prices meaning this is not a wage issue.

The issue is availability.
Get in an airplane and fly from San Diego to San Francisco between the coast and I5. What you'll see is there is no place to build. What land that can be built on, is built along with lots of places they should never have built.

So how do we increase supply?

1. Build lots of homes. Not 3 BR pool size homes but build vertically. Mini-City apartment complexes housing thousands in a vertical environment with shopping, medical, school and child care available within the community.
and
2. Build effective, fast, and widely available mass transit.

California is a lab experiment in the social impact of huge wealth disparities with billionaires living in hundred million dollar mansions, when they're at home and homeless people on the street outside the mansion.

Why doesn't NY with 20 million people in the ther 13,300 SM metro area have the same level of homelessness as CA with 39 million people spread over 164,000 SM? Because housing in NY is vertical. The American dream is crushing California.
My daughter moved back to Virginia from San Diego a couple of years ago due to the homeless and illegal problem.

The gated condo community she lived in was surrounded by homeless and illegals camps. She was calling it Ft. Apache SD.

She said you could not even walk across the street to the In and Out due to them. Nearly every business on their street closed-up.....Even city busses stopped their route through there.

I visited there there about seven years ago and it was a really nice lower middle class area. What has happened to CA can be laid directly at the feet of the leftist dems.....I hope they all die.
 
My daughter moved back to Virginia from San Diego a couple of years ago due to the homeless and illegal problem.

The gated condo community she lived in was surrounded by homeless and illegals camps. She was calling it Ft. Apache SD.

She said you could not even walk across the street to the In and Out due to them. Nearly every business on their street closed-up.....Even city busses stopped their route through there.

I visited there there about seven years ago and it was a really nice lower middle class area. What has happened to CA can be laid directly at the feet of the leftist dems.....I hope they all die.
Yeah...Leftist Dems are charging $4000 for a1 br apartment.

Your unabated and illiterate compulsion to infect everything you see with your MAGATISM resolves nothing.

You have nothing to say...Why not say that.
 
As opposed to just throwing people away?

Homelessness is a complex problem and there no fast and easy fix. I speak as a person who worked with the Homeless and at risk of Homeless.

I've read Prop. 1 and I have voted for Prop 1 (absentee voting). Newsom is NOT shipping Homeless to other states. Nor is he putting razor wire in the water, ReNaziKlan Governors do. Nor is Governor Newsom selling Gold Sneakers that are not yet in the process of manufactured and he sure as hell has not sold non-existent trading cards with money that does not exist. You want to talk about throwing money, you people do it gladly.
Bbbut, Bbbbut, Bbbbut, TRUMP. You should be so lucky moron. Newsom and the democrats have bankrupted the golden state, but you go ahead and try to blame Trump and the conservatives--talk about mental decline.
 
Yeah...Leftist Dems are charging $4000 for a1 br apartment.

Your unabated and illiterate compulsion to infect everything you see with your MAGATISM resolves nothing.

You have nothing to say...Why not say that.
Well nobody ever said leftist dems weren't greedy.

But like many other people in CA she voted on FUBAR CA policy with her feet and took her six figure income with her.
 
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Well nobody ever said leftist dems weren't greedy.

But like many other people in CA she voted on FUBAR CA policy with her feet and took her six figure income with her.
Perhaps you missed this...

You have nothing to say...Why not say that?
 
As opposed to just throwing people away?

Homelessness is a complex problem and there no fast and easy fix. I speak as a person who worked with the Homeless and at risk of Homeless.

I've read Prop. 1 and I have voted for Prop 1 (absentee voting). Newsom is NOT shipping Homeless to other states. Nor is he putting razor wire in the water, ReNaziKlan Governors do. Nor is Governor Newsom selling Gold Sneakers that are not yet in the process of manufactured and he sure as hell has not sold non-existent trading cards with money that does not exist. You want to talk about throwing money, you people do it gladly.
If only you would have passed out more clean needles to the homeless this could have been avoided.
 
Why did they leave their homes to be homeless here

Reasons for becoming Homeless are to many to list.

Mental Ilness is high on list. Drug addiction (many of mentally ill self-medicate). Many Homeless teens are escaping phyiscal or sexual abuse. Some Women are escaping an abusive spouse.

There vets on the street who have bad paper (anything a BCD - Bad Conduct Discharge. up to and a Dishonorable Discharge).

There are Homeless Families who lost their house or apartment due unemployment. Housing costs can lead to Homelessness as to high rents.

Medical Bankruptcy can force people on the street as well.

There are of course criminals on the street, avoiding the police. My former employer St. Anthony Foundation operates a Dining Room where at one time Charles Manson would eat from time to time. There was a man who was failed to get his PhD and killed his advisor with a hammer.

There is no quick, fast or easy way to get people off the street. Permanent Supportive Housing with on site-services would help. Access to showers, hair cuts and laundry is great. It is hard to find a job with you wear the same clothes everyday. There needs to place where people seeking employment can find clothes to match the job they are applying for and phones for perspective employer can call.

And that is just the begining.
 

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