British Muslim Group Has An Easy Solution About 'Those' Cartoons

[Annie]

Kill anyone that makes fun of Muslims! There ya go, another glorious outburst from some of those believers of the religion of peace...Hey, they quote the Koran, isn't that like it being a 'civil rights amendment' or something?

Just so you know, the 'blog name' is the group's name:

http://www.alghurabaa.co.uk/articles/new/cartoon.htm

Kill those who insult the Prophet Muhammad (saw)



The kuffar in their sustained crusade against Islam and Muslims have yet again displayed their hatred towards us this time by attacking the honour of our beloved Messenger Muhammad (saw). In September 2005 the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published 10 cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad (saw) which were later republished by a Norwegian paper Magazinet. Until now both governments have refused to denounce the drawings and to condemn the publication of them.

Denmark has a history of blasphemy against Islam, only in August did radio presenter Kaj Wilhelmsen say that all fanatical Muslims should be exterminated and the rest should be kicked out of Europe. Last year the queen of Denmark aired her disapproval of Islam and for those ‘whom religion is their entire life’. Prior to this the Danish government issued the right to dismiss a Muslim woman from working in a supermarket for wearing the hijab. Furthermore Denmark is an ally of the war in Iraq with 500 troops stationed in the South and 10 from Norway showing their approval and participation of the war.

Both governments claim that one of their underlying principles is the freedom of speech and that everyone is free to speak their mind and to voice their opinions openly. They claim that the publication of these cartoons is a mere expression of ones opinions falling within the framework of the law. This is the same freedom of expression that quite readily prevents the propagation of Islam and support of the mujahideen using it as and when it suits them.

This should come as no surprise to the Muslims because this is the exact and true nature of the kuffar that Allah (swt) has informed us of in the Quran. The kuffar will never have respect for our deen, they will never honour it and will always seek to ridicule and disparage it. At every opportunity they will try to attack and belittle it whilst concealing the greater hatred they have for it in their hearts. This is also evident throughout the history of Islam where the kuffar carried out similar acts to try and defame Islam. Allah (swt) tells us that; verily, the Kaafireen [disbelievers] are ever unto you your open enemies. [4:101]

At the time of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) there were individuals like these who dishonoured and insulted him upon whom the Islamic judgement was executed. Such people were not tolerated in the past and throughout the history of Islam were dealt with according to the Shariah. Ka’ab ibn Ashraf was assassinated by Muhammad ibn Maslamah for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his words, Abu Raafi’ was killed by Abu Ateeq as the Messenger ordered in the most evil of ways for swearing at the prophet, Khalid bin Sufyaan was killed by Abdullah bin Anees who cut off his head and brought it to the prophet for harming the Messenger Muhammad (saw) by his insults, Al-Asmaa bintu Marwaan was killed by Umayr bin Adi’ al-Khatmi, a blind man, for writing poetry against the prophet and insulting him in it, Al-Aswad al-Ansi was killed by Fairuz al-Daylami and his family for insulting the Messenger Muhammad (saw) and claiming to be a prophet himself. This is the judgement of Islam upon those who violate, dishonour and insult the Messenger Muhammad (saw).

Shortly after these incidents the people began to realise that insulting the Messenger of Allah (saw) was not something to be taken lightly and that by doing so would mean that you would be killed for it, a concept that many have seem to forgotten today.

The insulting of the Messenger Muhammad (saw) is something that the Muslims cannot and will not tolerate and the punishment in Islam for the one who does so is death. This is the sunnah of the prophet and the verdict of Islam upon such people, one that any Muslim is able execute. The response of the Muslims all over the world shows us the inability to deal with such people, the kuffar are attacking our Messenger and are allowed to get away with it whilst the Muslims have no power to do anything about it. The leaders of the Muslim world have no care for the deen of Islam as they are busy cementing their seats content with their power and wealth. Where are the Muhammad ibn Maslamah’s of our ummah who will defend the honour of our beloved Messenger and rise the banner of Tawheed high?

But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and attack your religion with disapproval and criticism then fight (you) the leaders of disbelief - for surely their oaths are nothing to them - so that they may stop (evil actions). [9:12

 

[CSM]

Kill anyone that makes fun of Muslims! There ya go, another glorious outburst from some of those believers of the religion of peace...Hey, they quote the Koran, isn't that like it being a 'civil rights amendment' or something?

Just so you know, the 'blog name' is the group's name:

http://www.alghurabaa.co.uk/articles/new/cartoon.htm

I suppose that we should surrender under this threat of death. Then again, maybe we should just blow up every major Muslim city and see how far they can get as a civilization from the 4th century instead of the 14th century. If they want a piece of this guy, they are welcome to come and try to get it. I bet I can use up quite a few virgins for them.

 

[CSM]

I wonder how many Islamic extremists we have to send to meet Allah before they cut down to 36 virgins for each?

 

[Annie]

I wonder how many Islamic extremists we have to send to meet Allah before they cut down to 36 virgins for each?

See there is a problem there, how does one explain the female suicide bombers? Maybe it's just to get away from their 'men', make that captors?

 

[Mr. P]

Wondering if Italy, Germany etc..had a plan in mind when publishing those cartoons.
You know, like draw the rats to the bait, maybe? Works for me.

 

[Annie]

Wondering if Italy, Germany etc..had a plan in mind when publishing those cartoons.
You know, like draw the rats to the bait, maybe? Works for me.

It's hard to believe, but I can come to no other conclusion, they are spreading the heat and the message around. Not fair just the Danes to stick up for Western thought and freedoms.

 

[CSM]

See there is a problem there, how does one explain the female suicide bombers? Maybe it's just to get away from their 'men', make that captors?

I guess the virgins could be male as well...or is that against Islamic law?

 

[Annie]

I guess the virgins could be male as well...or is that against Islamic law?

Pretty sure that's a no, no. :dev1:

 

[archangel]

See there is a problem there, how does one explain the female suicide bombers? Maybe it's just to get away from their 'men', make that captors?

maybe they were Virgins...and wanted to join the party!.... :huh:

 

[Annie]

http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2006/02/an_awakening_eu.html

February 02, 2006
An Awakening Europe Reacts - Spineless UK Press Doesn't

In breaking news, the Jerusalem Post is reporting that "Palestinian gunmen" have surrounded the EU Commission's office in Gaza, in protest at the publication in several countries of the celebrated cartoons of Muhammad:

"A leaflet signed by a Fatah militia and the Islamic Jihad said the EU office and churches in Gaza could come under attack and urged all French citizens to leave Gaza.

"On Wednesday night, the Fatah-affiliated Aksa Martyrs' Brigades and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine threatened to blow up the Danish and Norwegian consulates in the Palestinian Authority, Army Radio reported."
​

Thanks to the Palestinians for offering such a clear contrast between the ways of the West and those of much of the Muslim world - we print cartoons: in response, they threaten to attack churches, kill people and blow up embassies.

Very telling.

According to the Post:

"The gunmen also demanded apologies from the governments of France, Denmark and Norway"​

The "gunmen" should catch up - the cartoons have been reprinted by papers in several other European countries. Here is the roll of honour (references culled from various sources, including Le Monde, the BBC, the Times, and the Independent):

Spain

ABC

El Periodico

"It's logical that the cartoons irritate some Muslims. But it is not logical when, in the name of a literal and inhumane reading of the Koran, one tries to eliminate even overseas criticisms or menace those who ... exercise satire."

"Europe cannot concede the defence of freedom just because of an offensive by radical Islam"

"We don't normally shy away from things like this. Publish and be damned, as they say."
Carlos-Enrique Bayo, foreign editor​

Italy

La Stampa

Il Correire della Sera

"What is the West waiting for? Will they keep their heads in the sand until another Theo van Gogh is assassinated in Copenhagen or in Oslo?" (This from a Muslim writer)​

Switzerland

Blick

La Tribune de Genève

"This affair is an illustration of a clash between a very secular culture like ours and another culture where religion is central."
​

Netherlands

De Volkskrant

De Telegraaf

NRC Handelsblad

Germany

Berliner Zeitung

Der Tagesspiegel

"When a society allows itself to be guided only by the 'feelings' of a group of people, then it is no longer free."​

Die Tageszeitung

"In a democratic and secular society, showing decency and respect for other cultures does not mean adopting their religious dogmas."​

Die Welt

"One could take the Muslims protests more seriously if they were less hypocritical. When Syrian television broadcast a prime time documentary drama showing rabbis as cannibals, the imams were silent."
​

No need for any fanatical Muslims to threaten UK interests, as I've seen no evidence that any British paper has had the spine to publish the cartoons or even a leader backing the right to do so - despite running several news stories today on the journalistic reaction on the continent.

Good luck to Jacques LeFranc, the (former) editor of Le Soir, who was fired by Raymond Lakah, the (Christian) Franco-Egyptian owner of the paper - who, while of course within his rights as a business owner, should be ashamed of his craven action. Warm best wishes as well to the staff, who continue to vociferously defend the right to a free press in today's edition (which, strangely, seems not to be online).

According to Le Monde, the front page of today's edition shows three men burning a Danish flag, under the headline "Help us Voltaire, they've gone crazy!"

Inside, some questions are asked:

"Islam forbids its followers all representations of the Prophet ... the question that is posed is the following: are all those who aren't Muslims bound to conform to that? Can you imagine a society that adopted the strictures of various religions? What would happen to the freedom to think, to speak, or even to come and go? Societies like this, we know them too well. They are, for example, Iran of the Mullahs. And yesterday it was France of the Inquisition ...

[...]

"Religious freedom is the liberty to believe or not, to practice one's religion undisturbed. But it will never become the right to impose on all of society the rules relevant to a single belief."

Meanwhile, as the Telegraph reports:

"Mohammed Bechari, the president of the National Federation of Muslims of France, had said earlier that his group would start legal proceedings against France Soir because the pictures were 'hurting the feelings of 1.2 billion Muslims.'"

Well guess what, Mr. Bechari? There are billions of people in the world who love free speech. This group includes many millions - and millions of Muslims - to whom it's systematically denied by just the kind of threat, blackmail and bullying that your co-religionists are displaying right now.

Freedom of speech is a cornerstone of the Western secular society in which you choose to live - indeed, for many of us, belief in the principle is tantamount to a religious tenet. The barbarous actions we've been seeing, and the support for them implied by your legal threats - while not entirely unexpected - is hurting our feelings. We react by writing about it, by talking about it, by printing more cartoons - but not with threats of violence.

Mr. Bechari, you claim that your organisation is "respectful of the laws of the Republic". While I know little about French law, I strongly suspect that the right of people to print cartoons which hurt others' feelings is protected under that law. As one minister put it, emphasising that government had no authority to act:

"The cartoons published today in France Soir are the responsibility only of the paper that published them."​

My suggestion to those European Muslims who are offended by such cartoons is to emigrate to a country whose legal system is more to their liking. You'll be happier there - just be careful if you're inclined to adultery.

 

[archangel]

Looks like Islam has been outed once again...reminisient of the 'Ottoman Empire'

 

[CSM]

http://dailyablution.blogs.com/the_daily_ablution/2006/02/an_awakening_eu.html

The most recent proclamation of Islam really makes me think that HAMAS is going to have a hell of time trying to convince people they should still receive aid.

 

[nosarcasm]

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1700798,00.html

BBC joins cartoon controversy

The BBC has involved itself in a growing Europe-wide controversy by broadcasting cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused outrage in the Islamic world and led to the sacking of a French newspaper editor.
The corporation showed the images as they appeared in French newspaper France Soir as part of a story on the controversy on today's One O'Clock News bulletin and on the News 24 channel.

The BBC said it was using the pictures "responsibly and in full context to give audiences an understanding of the strong feelings evoked by the story".

No British news organisation had previously shown the cartoons, which were first printed back in September in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. They include a picture of a bearded Muhammad with a bomb fizzing out of his turban.

...

The Muslim Council of Britain said its reaction to the BBC's decision to broadcast would "depend on the context".

A spokesman said: "It depends on whether they're broadcast to illustrate the story about the row developing, or, in the same way as the European newspapers have published, to gloat about freedom.


The Channel Five news controller, Chris Shaw, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that his channel planned to show the cartoons in its 5.30pm bulletin, but only in the context of the images used in yesterday's edition of the French newspaper France Soir.


The leftwing press in Britain seems to be too cowardly to just
print it in support of the Danes.


PS: A top Danish official, seeking to quell the controversy, said Denmark's newspapers "could possibly learn something from US newspapers, which tended not to try to push the limits of what was permissible," according to the Copenhagen Post

meh learn how to be political correct. This kind of freedom is useless if
you are not morally allowed to use it.

 

[CSM]

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,,1700798,00.html

BBC joins cartoon controversy

The BBC has involved itself in a growing Europe-wide controversy by broadcasting cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that have caused outrage in the Islamic world and led to the sacking of a French newspaper editor.
The corporation showed the images as they appeared in French newspaper France Soir as part of a story on the controversy on today's One O'Clock News bulletin and on the News 24 channel.

The BBC said it was using the pictures "responsibly and in full context to give audiences an understanding of the strong feelings evoked by the story".

No British news organisation had previously shown the cartoons, which were first printed back in September in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten. They include a picture of a bearded Muhammad with a bomb fizzing out of his turban.

...

The Muslim Council of Britain said its reaction to the BBC's decision to broadcast would "depend on the context".

A spokesman said: "It depends on whether they're broadcast to illustrate the story about the row developing, or, in the same way as the European newspapers have published, to gloat about freedom.

As opposed to glosting about fanatical Islam I guess

The Channel Five news controller, Chris Shaw, told MediaGuardian.co.uk that his channel planned to show the cartoons in its 5.30pm bulletin, but only in the context of the images used in yesterday's edition of the French newspaper France Soir.


The leftwing press in Britain seems to be too cowardly to just
print it in support of the Danes.


PS: A top Danish official, seeking to quell the controversy, said Denmark's newspapers "could possibly learn something from US newspapers, which tended not to try to push the limits of what was permissible," according to the Copenhagen Post

Heck, in the US press ANYTHING is permissible.

meh learn how to be political correct. This kind of freedom is useless if
you are not morally allowed to use it.

I have no doubt that the fact that some Muslim countries like Jordan have already published the pictures had a significant impact on the BBC's decision.

 

[nosarcasm]

they only presented the story. No solidarity from the socialists in Britain
this time around.

I guess the attacks on London did work after all.

 

[NATO AIR]

I have no doubt that the fact that some Muslim countries like Jordan have already published the pictures had a significant impact on the BBC's decision.

Isn't it just sad that France, Germany, Denmark and others are up to the challenge of standing up for free speech, when England is ready to give up everything just to kow tow to the Muslims.

 

[Annie]

The most recent proclamation of Islam really makes me think that HAMAS is going to have a hell of time trying to convince people they should still receive aid.

One would hope!