Bringing manufacturing back to the US, but no jobs for the working class

The neat thing is, Trump doesn't actually have to follow through.

He just has to say the right things, annoy/insult the right people, and claim some great victory every once in a while (like a 2.3% GDP is "The Greatest Economy Ever").

That's good enough for MAGA.
 
Are you living in some sort of alternate universe or reality, otherwise where everything is based upon idea's and thinking that most people just love being dependents and moochers on society ?

I think that most hardworking honest Americans (that are in the millions), have faced in their lifetimes tragedy, upheaval, medical event's, and many crashes that were out of their control, and then when they reach the last supposedly secure promise in which they were forced to pay into but was glad that they did, the politician's use it as a political hammer in one form or another to fight the opposition with...

They (the political giants), threaten the very legitimacy of the program after millions were being duped into it because they are workers, but now as it has been revealed, the money in this country is so vast that it was being thrown around like a drunken sailor on shore leave in Amsterdam.

The SS retirement system should be a guaranteed sovereign program for exactly what it was designed for (retirement), and it should never be used or defrauded in any way shape or form.
I wouldn't worry too much about SS. It will be fixed. Also, there are many other safety nets in place for those in need.
 
If benefits have to be reduced (20 percent is being floated) then the retiree will just have to make up for it somehow or settle for less. However, in many if not most cases SS isn't a retiree's only income. A closer look is needed. Seniors hold vast assets, and most want to leave some to their children, thus they don't spend it on themselves. Most retirees are doing just fine.

Yes, richer seniors hold other assets, many will not because they weren't rich enough to save enough money to do so.
 
I wouldn't worry too much about SS. It will be fixed. Also, there are many other safety nets in place for those in need.
Worker's don't need other safety nets (no free chit needed or wanted), but yes other's that are mentally disabled or physically disabled need other types of safety nets agree.

We just want what we have paid into for 50 year's of hard work. If this nation's government wants to screw over the senior's, then to hell with the sorry vulnerable system that has been molested and wrongfully run for year's is what I say about it. Yes it needs fixing.

Another thing that needs to change, and that is once the age of 65 is reached, then the recipient should be free to go back to work without it causing one red cent to be deducted from their earned retirement check. Why ? Because they are now paying back into SS again because they are working.

The idea that the system is set up to disincentivize workers by making it where they are scared to continue on in work, and this after 65 all because they would get punished if they did so, uhhhh is simply ludicrous and anti-productive as well as again just plain stupid.

Just because the SSS is sending out a check that was earned by a former waitress, welder or truck driver at age 65, then why not allow the worker's to continue on working and paying into SS regardless of drawing the retirement check that was earned ? The key thing is this, they are working and actually adding to SS instead of drawing and adding nothing, we'll and this is because they don't want to go through the Hassel of being penalized or getting into a confusing bunch of bull crap because of it all.

Just make it all make sense... 😆
 
Worker's don't need other safety nets (no free chit needed or wanted), but yes other's that are mentally disabled or physically disabled need other types of safety nets agree.

We just want what we have paid into for 50 year's of hard work. If this nation's government wants to screw over the senior's, then to hell with the sorry vulnerable system that has been molested and wrongfully run for year's is what I say about it. Yes it needs fixing.

Another thing that needs to change, and that is once the age of 65 is reached, then the recipient should be free to go back to work without it causing one red cent to be deducted from their earned retirement check. Why ? Because they are now paying back into SS again because they are working.

The idea that the system is set up to disincentivize workers by making it where they are scared to continue on in work, and this after 65 all because they would get punished if they did so, uhhhh is simply ludicrous and anti-productive as well as again just plain stupid.

Just because the SSS is sending out a check that was earned by a former waitress, welder or truck driver at age 65, then why not allow the worker's to continue on working and paying into SS regardless of drawing the retirement check that was earned ? The key thing is this, they are working and actually adding to SS instead of drawing and adding nothing, we'll and this is because they don't want to go through the Hassel of being penalized or getting into a confusing bunch of bull crap because of it all.

Just make it all make sense... 😆
I have been working since I began collecting SS and have been taxed on 85 percent of it. However, because my wages have increased my SS benefit has also increased. Trump wants to eliminate all taxes on SS, but this will cause yet more trouble for the system. I don't mind paying the tax as it helps keep SS solvent for the time being anyway.
 
I have been working since I began collecting SS and have been taxed on 85 percent of it. However, because my wages have increased my SS benefit has also increased. Trump wants to eliminate all taxes on SS, but this will cause yet more trouble for the system. I don't mind paying the tax as it helps keep SS solvent for the time being anyway.
Eliminating all taxes will cause what effect on the program ? You happy with 85% of it being taxed ? When did you start drawing ? 62 ? Hmmm, not sure if you are coming out if 85% of it has been taxed, and even if working is causing your check to increase, then how much time do you think you have left before you croak, and are you able to get the calculations right in order to tell if you are actually doing better than just breaking even in the short and/or long term ??
 
Eliminating all taxes will cause what effect on the program ? You happy with 85% of it being taxed ? When did you start drawing ? 62 ? Hmmm, not sure if you are coming out if 85% of it has been taxed, and even if working is causing your check to increase, then how much time do you think you have left before you croak, and are you able to get the calculations right in order to tell if you are actually doing better than just breaking even in the short and/or long term ??
SS receives 4 percent of its revenue from taxes on benefits, or $48Billion/yr. So, the drawdown of the Trust Fund would be 4 percent of 120 months (ten years until 2035), or about 5 months sooner.


I lose about $4000/yr in SS taxes. It would be nice to have it back. That said I have more money than I'll ever spend so it's no big deal (I have a vacant rental apartment worth $700/month rent. I got tired of the noise and hassle of renting it to students every year).
 
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Howard Lutnick appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday and promised that “trillions” of dollars would flow into the US in the form of new investments in America’s manufacturing sector. Margaret Brennan, the show’s host, questioned whether those factories would be “automated”, as Lutnick had said previously.

Pointing out that the construction of new factories “takes years” and will do nothing to bring down costs of consumer goods for Americans in the short term, Brennan added: “You said that robots are going to fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs.”

“It’s automated factories,” Lutnick conceded, while promising that American workers would build and “operate” the factories brought to US shores in the coming months and years."

Yep, they're planning on bringing manufacturing back to the US, but not for working class to have low paid jobs, they'll never compete with poorer countries even with the tariffs put in place. Nope, it's all going to be automated so the rich get RICHER and the poorer get morescrewedoverer.


All the job gains under Tater went to immigrants.

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Yes, they are that fucking dumb. Plus even the most roboticized plants have extensive numbers of employees to do the jobs the robots can't do, and to maintain the robots.
/----/ Libtards are so dumb, they don't understand or want to acknowledge trickle-down unless they're making a crude joke.
When a factory opens in the US it ignites the local economy, including construction, transportation by truck, air, and rail, local restaurants, supply houses, retail stores, wholesalers, and home rentals and purchases. All these clowns can do is focus on some robots.
 
Well didn't doge find hundreds of billions in waste fraud and abuse? Put that money back into the social security funds.
 
The people who are saying we must suffer the pain, the stock market collapse, and the coming recession are the same folks who lost their god-damned minds when they were asked to put on a mask to keep from killing someone's grandmother.
what little brains they had was destroyed when they got Covid-19
 

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Howard Lutnick appeared on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday and promised that “trillions” of dollars would flow into the US in the form of new investments in America’s manufacturing sector. Margaret Brennan, the show’s host, questioned whether those factories would be “automated”, as Lutnick had said previously.

Pointing out that the construction of new factories “takes years” and will do nothing to bring down costs of consumer goods for Americans in the short term, Brennan added: “You said that robots are going to fill those jobs. So those aren't union worker jobs.”

“It’s automated factories,” Lutnick conceded, while promising that American workers would build and “operate” the factories brought to US shores in the coming months and years."

Yep, they're planning on bringing manufacturing back to the US, but not for working class to have low paid jobs, they'll never compete with poorer countries even with the tariffs put in place. Nope, it's all going to be automated so the rich get RICHER and the poorer get morescrewedoverer.
Bitch when it's raining. Bitch when it's sunny. You worthless leftist traitors crack me up.
 
Yes, richer seniors hold other assets, many will not because they weren't rich enough to save enough money to do so.
I'm not big on statistics. Show me a senior that can't afford to retire. We'll go back through his history and see if and how he fucked up financially. :biggrin:
 
I'm not big on statistics. Show me a senior that can't afford to retire. We'll go back through his history and see if and how he fucked up financially. :biggrin:
You are asking a foreigner about retirement in Anerica

He has no clue
 
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I'm not big on statistics. Show me a senior that can't afford to retire. We'll go back through his history and see if and how he fucked up financially. :biggrin:
There are millions up millions that depend on social security to hang on. They are great Americans as well. It's on the nation to ensure they are taken care of with regards to social security.
 
There are millions up millions that depend on social security to hang on. They are great Americans as well. It's on the nation to ensure they are taken care of with regards to social security.
It's up to them to earn the credits over their working life. It's also up to them to understand that SS isn't intended to provide 100 percent of their retirement finances. If it does, fine, it not they need other income sources.
 
You are asking a foreigner and retirement in Anerica

He has no clue
It actually takes effort to screw up financially in America. Many work hard at making others rich.
 
Bitch when it's raining. Bitch when it's sunny. You worthless leftist traitors crack me up.
We just are behind on our education standards and turn out, otherwise education that would have prepared us for the future. No one to blame but the Democrat's for causing this nation to fall severely behind while they chose social engineering and crazy wild idiocy as a new idea and progress towards the future. It's hard to believe that this nation became blinded and went stupid after the Vietnam war, but for some reason it was punished for that war, and it has lingered on for many year's afterwards.

The many problems that the Democrat's are causing still to this day, are not being addressed properly by this nation yet. Until then we will become more and more vulnerable because we can't be blessed without addressing the evil that has embedded itself into the fabric of American society. There is no way this nation is blessed as long as it continues to groom and teach propaganda that makes our young folks engage in deadly addictions and habits that bring about the destruction of civilized society.
 
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