Breaking: Woman shot while trying to kill ICE agents in Minnesota

[Ghost of a Rider]

If a truck parks in the road to deliver freight with other lanes open, are they blocking traffic too?

Yes. But if blocking a lane is the only way to offload the cargo, it is allowed provided the emergency flashers are engaged and cones are deployed around the truck. It's understood by police, the truck driver and other motorists that when they're done, they leave.

No matter how you try to spin this, no law officer will sit by while a motorist blocks a lane of traffic for the purpose of blocking a lane of traffic and pounds on the horn.

You seem to still be under the mistaken idea that Goode was trying to enter traffic. She was not. She was parked perpendicular to the flow of traffic to deliberately block the lane and sat there playing diddies with her horn. Everybody there knew this, including the other motorists. Why are you having such a hard time accepting it?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

No matter how you try to spin this, no law officer will sit by while a motorist blocks a lane of traffic for the purpose of blocking a lane of traffic and pounds on the horn.

The police would cite them for traffic violations, which are none of ICE's business.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

She had been blocking the road and honking her horn for over 3 minutes. They had legal authority to find out exactly what she was doing.

Like honking the horn is such a mysterious occurrence.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

The police would cite them for traffic violations, which are none of ICE's business.

It is if she's impeding their operations.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Like honking the horn is such a mysterious occurrence.

You're either having some trouble putting this all together or you're being obtuse. I'll bet you never even asked why she would blow her horn for three minutes if she was trying to enter traffic, have you?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Nice try to demonize those who don't share your views. Living in a free society is extremely important to EVERYONE at USMB, except for a few communists here or there.

When you throw people into prison for self defense while importing criminals and defending invaders, you demonize yourselves.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

I'll bet you never even asked why she would blow her horn for three minutes if she was trying to enter traffic, have you?

She was protesting ICE. It's not the best idea, but can't she protest ICE and enter traffic at the same time?

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

It is if she's impeding their operations.

ICE were the ones that were neglecting their own duties.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

She was protesting ICE. It's not the best idea, but can't she protest ICE and enter traffic at the same time?

Blocking and not entering traffic was the form of protest. Do you not understand this?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

ICE were the ones that were neglecting their own duties.

That's a separate discussion. If they're performing a sanctioned operation they have the right to remove any impediments.

 

[2aguy]

Like honking the horn is such a mysterious occurrence.

It is when you are doing it to block ICE agents in the middle of a neighborhood.

 

[2aguy]

Blocking and not entering traffic was the form of protest. Do you not understand this?

They do, they are just pretending they don't.

 

[2aguy]

The police would cite them for traffic violations, which are none of ICE's business.

Wrong, she was blocking them, which gave them the authority to question what she was doing and to order her out of her vehicle.

 

[krichton]

Enforcing immigration law is not comparable to “brown shirts” FFS.

And YET, you are the same people screaming about fascism when simply asked to wear a mask to enter a market. Real fascism is happening right before your eyes, not your fake made up snowflake cries of fascism when forced to isolate during a pandemic or wear a facemask.

You don't violate 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 14th amendment rights to enforce immigration policy. No policy is above the constitution. You better believe ICE are the modern day Brownshirts of nazi germany.

 

[JoeB131]

3.) What, exactly is the argument? Because I never said the shooting was justified. I don't know if it was or not. I'm only pointing out Goode's central role in escalating tensions. It was her sole purpose for being there, doing what she was doing. This is a fact no one disputes. No one can dispute it. But what they can do is ignore its direct contribution to the escalation of events.

She was exercising her first amendment right to protest government policies.

Now, when I was a young troop in the IL ARNG, we did Civil Disturbance Training, and the Major conducting the training said, 'If we are called out on CD, those people are not the enemy. They are your fellow citizens, they are damned angry about something, and they have every right to be."

The ICEstapo escalated that situation. They could have driven around her and kept on their business of harassing maids and gardeners.

 

[krichton]

No, when she rammed her vehicle into the ICE agent he fired his weapon in self defense.

What murder are you talking about? when the illegal aliens biden let in murder Americans? You mean those murders?

She never rammed him, LOL.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

The normalization and encouragement of violence on the left needs to stop!

The left needs to learn that murdering people because you disagree with what they believe is NOT OK.

Democrats and their media are 100% to blame for this.

How many more times is this going to happen??

To answer your questions, they will NEVER learn.

This is the major mental malfunction of Extreme Narcissistic Psychopaths.

They have no qualms about mass destruction and genocide as long as THEY get what THEY want...nothing else counts or is important.

You cannot make them learn.
You cannot make them understand.
You cannot make them reason.

ALL they understand is destruction and death.
And thats how you handle them........with the only things they believe in.......destruction and death.

 

[dblack]

To answer your questions, they will NEVER learn.

This is the major mental malfunction of Extreme Narcissistic Psychopaths.

They have no qualms about mass destruction and genocide as long as THEY get what THEY want...nothing else counts or is important.

You cannot make them learn.
You cannot make them understand.
You cannot make them reason.

ALL they understand is destruction and death.
And thats how you handle them........with the only things they believe in.......destruction and death.

So, what's your solution? Should we round them up and put them in camps? Or is it even worth it to keep them alive?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

She was exercising her first amendment right to protest government policies.

No one disputes that she had a 1st Amendment right to protest. Everyone has a right to protest but no one has a right to break the law. Protesting without breaking the law is allowed. Protesting while breaking the law is not.

Now, when I was a young troop in the IL ARNG, we did Civil Disturbance Training, and the Major conducting the training said, 'If we are called out on CD, those people are not the enemy. They are your fellow citizens, they are damned angry about something, and they have every right to be."

The ICEstapo escalated that situation. They could have driven around her and kept on their business of harassing maids and gardeners.

And she could have gotten out of the vehicle when they asked her to.

You're mischaracterizing the events again. This did not happen because they chose to approach her instead of going around, this happened because she decided to flee and hit an officer with her vehicle while doing so. If she had gotten out of the vehicle the worst that would have happened is that she would have been arrested for a misdemeanor.

She escalated tensions by blocking the lane and blowing her horn and that was her express intent.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

So, what's your solution? Should we round them up and put them in camps? Or is it even worth it to keep them alive?

You haven't read my other posts have you?

Do to them what they do to everybody else.
Death and destruction. Get rid of the toxic, deadly cancer.