‘Breaking Through’ — States Report Growing Number of COVID Cases Among Fully Vaccinated

Oh, well...That settles it....Reinstate mandatory, country wide lock down...No essential anything...Everyone is to huddle in their basements, or interior rooms of their homes, line the walls with tin foil, and never again go outside into public....We are all doomed I tell ya!

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH! :safetocomeoutff::ack-1::surprised1:

That definitely made me smirk :). But it doesn't really explain what you think of the vaccines...

I'm not an anti vaxer...in fact get my 2nd shot today.
 
Interesting story I found over at childrenshealthdefense.org today...

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03/31/21

Washington, Florida, South Carolina, Texas, New York, California and Minnesota have all reported breakthrough cases of COVID.

The Washington State Department of Health (DOH) announced Tuesday it is investigating reports of people who tested positive for COVID more than two weeks after being fully vaccinated against the disease.

According to Kiro 7 News, a CBS affiliate in Washington, the DOH is investigating reports of the so-called “breakthrough cases,” which it said are expected with any vaccine. Each case was confirmed with a polymerase chain reaction (PCR) test or a positive antigen test more than two weeks after the person had been fully vaccinated.

A majority of people with confirmed vaccine breakthrough experienced mild symptoms, if any. However, since Feb. 1, eight people with vaccine breakthrough cases were hospitalized and the DOH “is investigating two potential vaccine breakthrough cases where the patients died. Both patients were more than 80 years old and suffered underlying health issues,” officials said in a press release.
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Well, there goes any faith people had in the vaccines to begin with.

And discouraging people to buttress their health will lead to EVEN MORE Covid cases.
 
Well, there goes any faith people had in the vaccines to begin with.

And discouraging people to buttress their health will lead to EVEN MORE Covid cases.

Judging from many people's comments here, it seems that if people believed in the vaccines beforehand, this didn't put that much of a dent in people's confidence in them. That being said, any dent is good in my view. There are other ways to protect against diseases as has been mentioned here, such as eating nutritious foods and not stressing out too much.
 
That's why we were originally told to wait 4-8 weeks before assuming it takes affect, then they said 2 weeks, and of course people never wait that even before dropping their guard.

I don't recall ever seeing any serious evidence that any of the vaccines were effective in reducing infections, so whatever number of weeks they say, I'd still be suspicious. However, there's nothing quite like evidence to find the truth, so the report mentioned in the OP is certainly validating to those who distrusted the government's narrative.
The vaccine with the best success percentage, and least side affects and problems happens to be assisted by NIH which is who knowingly financed research at Wuhan lab from 2016-2019 even though they knew the lab had transfered to a military bio warfare lab.
So imagine my and our dilemma trying to decide if we can trust that vaccine over the others.
And the NIH vaccine is the one in my area-lucky me, forced to weigh the risk reward.
There's no open appointments anyway, so lucky for me Biden is incompetent, and I know remedial methods to handle the virus if ever I got it.
Hopefully, By time I get an appointment there will be more data and options.

Which vaccine is assisted by NIH?
 
Well, there goes any faith people had in the vaccines to begin with.

And discouraging people to buttress their health will lead to EVEN MORE Covid cases.

Judging from many people's comments here, it seems that if people believed in the vaccines beforehand, this didn't put that much of a dent in people's confidence in them. That being said, any dent is good in my view. There are other ways to protect against diseases as has been mentioned here, such as eating nutritious foods and not stressing out too much.

And what if there is a vaccine that actually does what its supposed to? Will you simply 'cut off your nose to spite your face' so to speak?

Undermining faith in legitimate medical science will harm more people than it will supposedly help.
 
I hope people realize that technically this is not a vaccine
It's very much a vaccine according to current definitions.

According to current definitions, yes. That's the nice thing about being in charge of definitions- if you don't like the current definition, you can just change it. Mercola.com has an interesting article on authorities changing various definitions here:
 
It seems clear the vaccines are way more dangerous than the Kung Flu itself.
Thanks to Tramp's rush to get them out for his election!!
The more Americans who die the happier Tramp and Putin are!
Thanks to xidens rush to get everyone to carry papers....to verify you received the death shot for the chinese flu
The more Americans who die the happier-- xiden, barrag-o, pig-lousi, gates, and the rest of the scum demonRATS are....
 
Well, there goes any faith people had in the vaccines to begin with.

And discouraging people to buttress their health will lead to EVEN MORE Covid cases.

Judging from many people's comments here, it seems that if people believed in the vaccines beforehand, this didn't put that much of a dent in people's confidence in them. That being said, any dent is good in my view. There are other ways to protect against diseases as has been mentioned here, such as eating nutritious foods and not stressing out too much.

And what if there is a vaccine that actually does what its supposed to? Will you simply 'cut off your nose to spite your face' so to speak?

Undermining faith in legitimate medical science will harm more people than it will supposedly help.
then you must be their --experimental sheep---by now...congrats...i here germany--again suspended the AZ vaccine....go ahead you retarded demonRATS, rush to get the chinese flu vaccine, that does nothing...you are good sheep
 
It seems clear the vaccines are way more dangerous than the Kung Flu itself.
Thanks to Tramp's rush to get them out for his election!!
The more Americans who die the happier Tramp and Putin are!
the funny thing is that the dems prioritized these killer "vaccines" for their people first-----------And Biden has been out trying to steal all the credit for getting the "vaccines" out.....

This all said--the supposed only benefit of the vaccine is that it lessens the symptoms of covid--doesn't prevent it from infecting the vaccinated or prevent them from spreading the disease....

You should note both of my points....

I have heard that as well. The official narrative seems to be pretty fluid as to what these vaccines are actually supposed to do.
 
Well, there goes any faith people had in the vaccines to begin with.

And discouraging people to buttress their health will lead to EVEN MORE Covid cases.

Judging from many people's comments here, it seems that if people believed in the vaccines beforehand, this didn't put that much of a dent in people's confidence in them. That being said, any dent is good in my view. There are other ways to protect against diseases as has been mentioned here, such as eating nutritious foods and not stressing out too much.

And what if there is a vaccine that actually does what its supposed to? Will you simply 'cut off your nose to spite your face' so to speak?

Undermining faith in legitimate medical science will harm more people than it will supposedly help.
then you must be their --experimental sheep---by now...congrats...i here germany--again suspended the AZ vaccine....go ahead you retarded demonRATS, rush to get the chinese flu vaccine, that does nothing...you are good sheep

Please, can we avoid these types of attacks? I'm not a fan of vaccines in general, but I think that the only way we will ever have a constructive debate on these issues is if we be respectful with each other.
 
I hope people realize that technically this is not a vaccine
It's very much a vaccine according to current definitions.

According to current definitions, yes. That's the nice thing about being in charge of definitions- if you don't like the current definition, you can just change it. Mercola.com has an interesting article on authorities changing various definitions here:
 
I hope people realize that technically this is not a vaccine
It's very much a vaccine according to current definitions.

According to current definitions, yes. That's the nice thing about being in charge of definitions- if you don't like the current definition, you can just change it. Mercola.com has an interesting article on authorities changing various definitions here:

I am aware that the FDA sent a warning letter to Dr. Mercola. Did you hear Dr. Mercola's side of the story? I think it's well worth a look:

I think it's also helpful to know a little more about the FDA itself:


 
Sorry, I'm not subscribing to some known quack's website just read his rebuttal. Looks to be doing just fine without any of my help.
 
What evidence do you have to support that assertion?
Lots of data. One example.

I've seen data of quite a different sort when it comes to Israel's vaccination program, which your paper speaks of:
Do you really put as much credit into a QAnon blog as one of the oldest and most respected medical journals in the world?

First of all, I don't see any "QAnon" label in the blog I linked to. I have no idea who you are either, but I'm not calling you QAnon. Secondly, I've heard far too much of the ongoing corruption between medical journals and phamaceutical companies to trust them. More importantly, they speak in medical journalese, which is frequently hard to decipher for lay people.
The blog is loaded with QAnon posts.

“I’ve heard” is an excuse to ignore what you want to ignore. If you want to be a skeptic; okay, but why would you put blind faith in someone you know nothing about with no data?
 
It seems clear the vaccines are way more dangerous than the Kung Flu itself.
This may well be the stupidest thing I've read in quite a while! Truly worthy of a Snouter!

How many hundreds of thousands have died from the vaccine again? How many tens of millions have contracted the Covid after being vaccinated?
Let's see..when a vaccine bills itself as 92% effective..should we expect an 8% failure rate?

Dumbass~
 
What evidence do you have to support that assertion?
Lots of data. One example.

I've seen data of quite a different sort when it comes to Israel's vaccination program, which your paper speaks of:
Really? Wordpress?
 
That's why we were originally told to wait 4-8 weeks before assuming it takes affect, then they said 2 weeks, and of course people never wait that even before dropping their guard.

I don't recall ever seeing any serious evidence that any of the vaccines were effective in reducing infections, so whatever number of weeks they say, I'd still be suspicious. However, there's nothing quite like evidence to find the truth, so the report mentioned in the OP is certainly validating to those who distrusted the government's narrative.
The vaccine with the best success percentage, and least side affects and problems happens to be assisted by NIH which is who knowingly financed research at Wuhan lab from 2016-2019 even though they knew the lab had transfered to a military bio warfare lab.
So imagine my and our dilemma trying to decide if we can trust that vaccine over the others.
And the NIH vaccine is the one in my area-lucky me, forced to weigh the risk reward.
There's no open appointments anyway, so lucky for me Biden is incompetent, and I know remedial methods to handle the virus if ever I got it.
Hopefully, By time I get an appointment there will be more data and options.
Interesting and I hope you are right that there will be more data and options ..I hope people realize that technically this is not a vaccine .. Usually when we get vaccines we are given a dead virus or bacteria and our immune systems learn and make antibodies against this threat so we can handle it in the future.. In this case since they keep telling us this thing is mutating the shots ( I am not using the term vaccine because it really isn’t one as there is no dead virus or dead bacteria involved)will be ineffective in preventing us from getting this thing in the future so my question is why get the shot if mutations will occur .... I am using their logic against their arguments...Truthfully we are all in a real pickle if we want to travel or do any of the fun things we used to if they mandate we must take this shot in order for our lives to RETURN back to the way they were... Reminds me of that scene in raiders where the old man tells Harrison Ford to choose wisely from the cups as a poor choice would result in his death while a good choice would result in him continuing his life.. Interesting delimna to say the least..
The real dilemma is sorting out all these socks with 6 years join dates....and minimal posts..someone is pulling out all the stops..LOL!
 
That's why we were originally told to wait 4-8 weeks before assuming it takes affect, then they said 2 weeks, and of course people never wait that even before dropping their guard.

I don't recall ever seeing any serious evidence that any of the vaccines were effective in reducing infections, so whatever number of weeks they say, I'd still be suspicious. However, there's nothing quite like evidence to find the truth, so the report mentioned in the OP is certainly validating to those who distrusted the government's narrative.
The vaccine with the best success percentage, and least side affects and problems happens to be assisted by NIH which is who knowingly financed research at Wuhan lab from 2016-2019 even though they knew the lab had transfered to a military bio warfare lab.
So imagine my and our dilemma trying to decide if we can trust that vaccine over the others.
And the NIH vaccine is the one in my area-lucky me, forced to weigh the risk reward.
There's no open appointments anyway, so lucky for me Biden is incompetent, and I know remedial methods to handle the virus if ever I got it.
Hopefully, By time I get an appointment there will be more data and options.

Which vaccine is assisted by NIH?
The Moderna COVID‑19 vaccine was created by
The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health.
 
I hope people realize that technically this is not a vaccine
It's very much a vaccine according to current definitions. A fairly new type is all. Stop kidding yourself.
Actually no it is not it is an MRNA packaged in a fat envelope that is delivered to a cell... A vaccine or the term for a vaccine is legally defined in the public health laws under CDC and FDA standards.. A vacinne must do two things to be legally defined as a vaccine.. It must stimulate an immunity and it must disrupt transmission... The ones who have given us this MRNA strand have been very specific in saying that it going into a cell in our bodies. That it is a treatment . It does not stop the transmission of the virus however... This is important as you can take the shot but still get infected plus it does not truly pass the designation of being labelled a vaccine but hey don’t take my word for it look it up for yourselves and look at the old definition of a vaccine and how they have convieniately changed that...
 

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