Breaking News - Israel launches ground offensive in Gaza

[toastman]

Did you even stop to think that maybe Israel having and using the Iron Dome system is a huge plus for the USA?

Think about it. It was a small part of Pres Reagan's SDI initiative that got killed by a Democrat congress. Now, we are seeing exactly how effective it can be with a minimum expenditure of funds.

And, as the IDF gains experience, they'll pass it on to us further enhancing our knowledge of anti-missile defense systems.

Ya ya ya, sure sure sure...

Tell this to the hundreds of thousands of families that lost their houses after the financial crisis...

I am sure they would really appreciate a ******* DOME sitting 10.000 miles away, which wouldn't be needed in the first place if Israel did make a peace.

pfffff

how stupid you are...

Thankfully, the rest of the Arab Peninsula LOVES Europe and the US.
What are you smoking?

Judging by his anger, I would say crack.

 

[Billo_Really]

That's the same excuse you use every time Billo. Guess what, every time Hamas launches rockets, Israel is going to attack them. It's that simple.

BTW, how the **** is launching a barrage of rockets indiscriminately at civilians considered defending??? Please answer this question, as i would love an explanation.

Because Israel fired first.

 

[Slyhunter]

Tell that to the citizens of Germany whom we bombed during WWII.
It happens.
You don't want it to happen don't start it by firing rockets into the neighboring country.

The rockets were in response to Israeli aggression.

Everyone has a right to defend themselves, including Hamas.

Defend themselves from what?
Israel only attacks Gaza when they attack Israel.

 

[alpine]

That's the same excuse you use every time Billo. Guess what, every time Hamas launches rockets, Israel is going to attack them. It's that simple.

It is funny thinking the same applies to the other side

Meaning, as long as Israel hits, they will hit (at least try to) back.

But at the same time, you realize you are kicking an already dead horse, right?

BTW, how the **** is launching a barrage of rockets indiscriminately at civilians considered defending??? Please answer this question, as i would love an explanation.

I am curious about the answer to this also...

 

[Slyhunter]

That's the same excuse you use every time Billo. Guess what, every time Hamas launches rockets, Israel is going to attack them. It's that simple.

BTW, how the **** is launching a barrage of rockets indiscriminately at civilians considered defending??? Please answer this question, as i would love an explanation.

Because Israel fired first.

Bullshit.

 

[teddyearp]

Don't act like you are any better than HAMAS. You are all the same shit, with a different scent and color.

**** YOU ALL!

Welcome to Troll #2

Ya, anybody who don't think like you, and is not fond of lending you money for some fantasy DOME, is a troll, right...

And why?

Because YOU think so...

That's right, YOU, that nobody else gives a shit about, thinks so...

**** you buddy, who the **** are you?

You are just having fun over there with US TAX DOLLARS, who gives a shit about what you think??? You are just like a spoiled kid never satisfied.

Get over yourself...

I'll tell you right now who I am "buddy". I see that you fail to have in your profile where you live. I do. You are more than welcome to look me up in my town in Randle, WA and say that same thing to my face. And I have no problems with MY Tax dollars being spent in that way. Notice the difference? I said MINE. You said US as if it is an ambiguous source.

I could go on, but my invite stands firmly.

Crap, I fed another morsel . . . .

 

[alpine]

Ya ya ya, sure sure sure...

Tell this to the hundreds of thousands of families that lost their houses after the financial crisis...

I am sure they would really appreciate a ******* DOME sitting 10.000 miles away, which wouldn't be needed in the first place if Israel did make a peace.

pfffff

how stupid you are...

Thankfully, the rest of the Arab Peninsula LOVES Europe and the US.
What are you smoking?

Judging by his anger, I would say crack.

Hmmm, and why do they hate US and Europe exactly???

Or should I ask, when they started hating?

Cmon, this is an easy one...

 

[alpine]

Welcome to Troll #2

Ya, anybody who don't think like you, and is not fond of lending you money for some fantasy DOME, is a troll, right...

And why?

Because YOU think so...

That's right, YOU, that nobody else gives a shit about, thinks so...

**** you buddy, who the **** are you?

You are just having fun over there with US TAX DOLLARS, who gives a shit about what you think??? You are just like a spoiled kid never satisfied.

Get over yourself...

I'll tell you right now who I am "buddy". I see that you fail to have in your profile where you live. I do. You are more than welcome to look me up in my town in Randle, WA and say that same thing to my face. And I have no problems with MY Tax dollars being spent in that way. Notice the difference? I said MINE. You said US as if it is an ambiguous source.

I could go on, but my invite stands firmly.

Crap, I fed another morsel . . . .

And it is also MY tax dollars, and I don't agree how it is being used. Israel should sign a peace deal and stop this bullshit so I can get a better health care and a pay raise so I can afford a better life standard.

And when you can think better and put some logic into this and realize this would also benefit YOU, I will let you know where I live so you can come over and thank me...

 

[Indeependent]

Thankfully, the rest of the Arab Peninsula LOVES Europe and the US.
What are you smoking?

Judging by his anger, I would say crack.

Hmmm, and why do they hate US and Europe exactly???

Or should I ask, when they started hating?

Cmon, this is an easy one...

Mohamed.
Great Britain slicing up the Arabian Peninsula as it pleased and apportioning the newly found oil to their Arab cronies.
Oh, you thought those oil sheiks found all that oil on their own?!
You know those Arabs kicked Britain out AFTER Britain found the oil.
You DO know that?

 

[alpine]

Judging by his anger, I would say crack.

Hmmm, and why do they hate US and Europe exactly???

Or should I ask, when they started hating?

Cmon, this is an easy one...

Mohamed.
Great Britain slicing up the Arabian Peninsula as it pleased and apportioning the newly found oil to their Arab cronies.
Oh, you thought those oil sheiks found all that oil on their own?!
You know those Arabs kicked Britain out AFTER Britain found the oil.
You DO know that?

Who are the Arabs to kick anyone out...

You really believe this story???

It was US who kicked Britain out. US owns the oil and the asses in the mid east, nobody else...

Otherwise Saudis wouldn't be flying f15s and riding abrams. And they like it too. They are the closest relatives to Mo, you realize that right?

US could seduce those savages easily, if it was not Israel. It would be a piece of cake.

Now look at the mess in our hands...

 

[Indeependent]

Hmmm, and why do they hate US and Europe exactly???

Or should I ask, when they started hating?

Cmon, this is an easy one...

Mohamed.
Great Britain slicing up the Arabian Peninsula as it pleased and apportioning the newly found oil to their Arab cronies.
Oh, you thought those oil sheiks found all that oil on their own?!
You know those Arabs kicked Britain out AFTER Britain found the oil.
You DO know that?

Who are the Arabs to kick anyone out...

You really believe this story???

It was US who kicked Britain out. US owns the oil and the asses in the mid east, nobody else...

Otherwise Saudis wouldn't be flying f15s and riding abrams. And they like it too. They are the closest relatives to Mo, you realize that right?

US could seduce those savages easily, if it was not Israel. It would be a piece of cake.

Now look at the mess in our hands...

 

[alpine]

There is a famous saying, if you sleep with blind, you get up cross eyed...

When you look at Middle East, you don't see any barbaric Arab states becoming more like "democratic" Israel, but "democratic" Israel becoming more like barbaric Arab states.

I wish those bloody barbaric Arabs didn't kill Rabin because he wanted peace and was almost getting one... oh wait...

Rabin's peace would have lasted 2 months...MAYBE.
And yet again, let's compare one assassination to an every day occurrence amongst the Arab nations.

SHAME ON YOU!

Comparing Rabin assassination to bunch of hamas mob leaders killing each other.

SHAME ON YOU!

So Rabin peace would only last 2 months ha... And you thrive on that ha...

SHAME ON YOU!

He shook hands with a Arafat, because he loved his people, he wanted this madness to stop, and you are from from understanding this self sacrifice.

SHAME ON YOU!

Because you are sooo far from your greatest leader, even Arafat understood him better than you...

SHAME ON YOU!

 

[Indeependent]

There is a famous saying, if you sleep with blind, you get up cross eyed...

When you look at Middle East, you don't see any barbaric Arab states becoming more like "democratic" Israel, but "democratic" Israel becoming more like barbaric Arab states.

I wish those bloody barbaric Arabs didn't kill Rabin because he wanted peace and was almost getting one... oh wait...

Rabin's peace would have lasted 2 months...MAYBE.
And yet again, let's compare one assassination to an every day occurrence amongst the Arab nations.

SHAME ON YOU!

Comparing Rabin assassination to bunch of hamas mob leaders killing each other.

SHAME ON YOU!

So Rabin peace would only last 2 months ha... And you thrive on that ha...

SHAME ON YOU!

He shook hands with a Arafat, because he loved his people, he wanted this madness to stop, and you are from from understanding this self sacrifice.

SHAME ON YOU!

Because you are sooo far from your greatest leader, even Arafat understood him better than you...

SHAME ON YOU!

You don't get it.
It doesn't matter what Rabin's intentions were.
He was most probably earnest.
The ARABS would have sat back, stockpiled weapons and attacked at the first opportunity.
And THIS is what YOU don't get.
The Arabs destroyed Lebanon, what makes you think they would want to see Israel thrive?
By the way, get a refund from Mrs. Arafat.

 

[TemplarKormac]

On it.

@Lipush , @teddyearp

Check it:

Roughly translated, this is what the Palestinian Government ordered their citizens to do:

"Stay in your homes,"they said. "Ignore Israeli requests to evacuate."

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Thank you Templar and Lipush very much for this information as I believe that it actually relates to this thread. I followed some of the links and it is interesting that I cannot seem to access the www.moi.gov.ps webpage. It times out.

The server must be down now, all of Gaza is without power. That's why I copied and pasted the translation.

 

[alpine]

Rabin's peace would have lasted 2 months...MAYBE.
And yet again, let's compare one assassination to an every day occurrence amongst the Arab nations.

SHAME ON YOU!

Comparing Rabin assassination to bunch of hamas mob leaders killing each other.

SHAME ON YOU!

So Rabin peace would only last 2 months ha... And you thrive on that ha...

SHAME ON YOU!

He shook hands with a Arafat, because he loved his people, he wanted this madness to stop, and you are from from understanding this self sacrifice.

SHAME ON YOU!

Because you are sooo far from your greatest leader, even Arafat understood him better than you...

SHAME ON YOU!

You don't get it.
It doesn't matter what Rabin's intentions were.
He was most probably earnest.
The ARABS would have sat back, stockpiled weapons and attacked at the first opportunity.
And THIS is what YOU don't get.
The Arabs destroyed Lebanon, what makes you think they would want to see Israel thrive?
By the way, get a refund from Mrs. Arafat.

Destroy Israel with what? Seriously, with WHAT?

What do they have to destroy Israel with?

If Israel agreed peace and Rabin was not assassinated and was asking for my tax dollars to invest in their protection, for an IRON DOME, as a "just in case" safety, I would say "take more of my tax dollars", because they would have deserved it to the last bit.

I still get thrill watching the documentary about the 6 day war, simply heroic, what a story.

But watching what is happening right now, I got disgusted.

Maybe you really believe Arabs have the means to "destroy" Israel, but anyone with any logic can see no Arab state has anything close to the military might Israel has at the moment. The only force would be Saudis with their abrams, but their ass are owned by US.

What is the worst Arabs can do to Israel?

TERROR!

That's their only weapon. They blow themselves up because that's all they can do. You killing civilians like the way you do right now, you are just creating more of them. You are shooting yourself in your own foot.

And all warmongers here should stop presenting themselves like the representatives of all Israeli people. We all know some smart Israeli people protesting this war in ISRAEL at the moment, and there are political parties in the Israeli Parliament also pointing out this war is detriment to the Israeli people but profitable for the gun makers.

It is obvious, for the minds that are not blinded by the curse of religion and racism, and all other mind blockers;

THIS IS NOT A WAR THAT YOU OR ANYBODY CAN WIN...THIS IS VENDETTA AND THERE IS NO END TO THIS...

 

[Indeependent]

Alpine,
As long as the life of one is threatened because they're a Jew, it's my problem.
Maybe you don't feel that way about any particular group of people, but I do.

And your argument is that we trust in God that those neighboring nations will never be able to destroy Israel?
If you were the President of these nations I'd take a stab at peace.
But you're not.

 

[P F Tinmore]

REALLY?!?!?! How many people were killed?

Thanks to the Iron Dome techonology, only one.

Maybe the Palestinians should built an iron dome for themselves.

Yes I heard we just doubled the money for the iron dome. Lucky for you the US is paying right, and the evangelical Christians are sending millions to you. I hope we quit the 3.2 bil plus a year were sending you and give it to Palestine, oh wait, you have AIPAC.

Wow unreal. Hope you happy. You sound happy. that's good.

Indeed, Israel is the mooch capital of the world. Those freeloaders always have their hand out.

 

[Phoenall]

price for what?

First, for kidnapping the 3 boys, which was what started the escalation.

Second, for their arrogance and abusing of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.

so when does israel pay the price for kidnapping the palestinian teen?

and is the 200+ dead and 1500+ wounded not payment enough?

how many palestinian lives and homes does it take to pay for an israeli teen?

The Palestinians set the price themselves when they traded one dead Israeli for 2,000 live Palestinians. So you do the sums. And the Israeli's involved in the death of the Palestinian teen have been arrested and face trial, now about those hamas scum that are been hidden ?

 

[Phoenall]

price for what?

First, for kidnapping the 3 boys, which was what started the escalation.

Second, for their arrogance and abusing of both Israeli and Palestinian civilians.

The three boys were kidnapped in Hebron, I had understood, and do we know by whom? Why would we assume it was Hamas?

Also, how have they abused civilians?

And thirdly, are the people of Gaza to pay the price for what Hamas does, even assuming your above assertions could be proven?

Yes by known hamas operatives as the voice recordings prove. So someone is hiding them and until they are caught and tried for murder the Israelis cant trust the Palestinians

Constant rocket fire into Israel and denying the Palestinians the right to safety

Did they vote for hamas and start this whole mess, then they are all guilty of Hamas's actions. Collective responsibility comes at a cost.

 

[P F Tinmore]

That Israel has the explicit intent of killing civilians in Gaza. Here, let me educate you pro-Palestinians:

The Moral Difference Between Israel and Hamas

they are taking deliberate actions that they know will result in the death of many civilians.

how many civilians are acceptable collateral for taking out one person who fires rockets - keeping in mind that those rockets - out of the 'thousands' fired recently, have killed just one person?

and you are educating me. your showing me that you do not value the lives of the people in gaza the same as you do those in israel.

How many Israelis have died from the rockets is not the point. The people of Israel can't live normal lives when they are running to bomb shelters all the time.

Bingo!

"We are not as interested in killing Israelis as much as interrupting their lives as much as they interrupt ours." ~ Islamic Jihad

The plan is to reduce Israel's production and income while increasing its cost.

Israel cannot bomb it way out of that.