Breaking! Conservative Boris Johnson expected to win in Europe

[JimBowie1958]

Listen up! The Conservatives were the only party of credibility, they promised to get U.K. out of the Eu. It’s simply politics.....nothing odd...or of Russian manipulation.

Hit the nail on the head Roy.

Bah, the Brexit party had more credibility and took one for the country by not opposing Tory candidates.

But the Tories will pretend that had nothing to do with their win and stiff arm the Brexiteers anyway, idiots.

 

[skye]

I want to see all continental Europe go the way the UK went!

No more Globalism, no more Socialism, no more Immigration!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There is a sense that the white working class is being left behind

Nice projection.

Feelings =/= reality

Garbage post

 

[JimBowie1958]

How and why in the world did they agree to being a part of the EU in the first place??

You have heard of the allegory of a frog being boiled alive by slowly raising the temperature on the pot? That's kind of what happened here.

There was a series of treaties, each one gradually 'integrating' Europe more tightly together under the EU Brussels pseudo-state.

Treaty of Amsterdam

The Treaty of Amsterdam, officially the Treaty of Amsterdam amending the Treaty on European Union, the Treaties establishing the European Communities and certain related acts, was signed on 2 October 1997, and entered into force on 1 May 1999;[1] it made substantial changes to the Treaty of Maastricht, which had been signed in 1992.

Under the Treaty of Amsterdam, member states agreed to transfer certain powers from national governments to the European Parliament across diverse areas, including legislating on immigration, adopting civil and criminal laws, and enacting foreign and security policy (CFSP), as well as implementing institutional changes for expansion as new member nations join the EU.​

Treaty of Nice - this is the Treaty the Danes rejected but got to do a do-over till they got it correct, lol.

The Treaty of Nice was signed by European leaders on 26 February 2001 and came into force on 1 February 2003.

It amended the Maastricht Treaty (or the Treaty on European Union) and the Treaty of Rome (or the Treaty establishing the European Community which, before the Maastricht Treaty, was the Treaty establishing the European Economic Community). The Treaty of Nice reformed the institutional structure of the European Union to withstand eastward expansion, a task which was originally intended to have been done by the Amsterdam Treaty, but failed to be addressed at the time.​

Treaty of Lisbon - this was the dirty deed that got EU unification in through the back door.

Prominent changes included the move from unanimity to qualified majority voting in at least 45 policy areas in the Council of Ministers, a change in calculating such a majority to a new double majority, a more powerful European Parliament forming a bicameral legislature alongside the Council of Ministers under the ordinary legislative procedure, a consolidated legal personality for the EU and the creation of a long-term President of the European Council and a High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. The Treaty also made the Union's bill of rights, the Charter of Fundamental Rights, legally binding. The Treaty for the first time gave member states the explicit legal right to leave the EU, and established a procedure by which to do so.

The stated aim of the treaty was to "complete the process started by the Treaty of Amsterdam [1997] and by the Treaty of Nice [2001] with a view to enhancing the efficiency and democratic legitimacy of the Union and to improving the coherence of its action".[4] Opponents of the Treaty of Lisbon, such as former Danish Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Jens-Peter Bonde, argued that it would centralize the EU,[5] and weaken democracy by "moving power away" from national electorates.[6] Supporters argue that it brings more checks and balances into the EU system, with stronger powers for the European Parliament and a new role for national parliaments.

Negotiations to modify EU institutions began in 2001, resulting first in the proposed Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe, which would have repealed the existing European treaties and replaced them with a "constitution". Although ratified by a majority of member states, this was abandoned after being rejected by 55% of French voters on 29 May 2005[7][8] and then by 61% of Dutch voters on 1 June 2005.[9] After a "period of reflection", member states agreed instead to maintain the existing treaties and amend them, to bring into law a number of the reforms that had been envisaged in the abandoned constitution. An amending "reform" treaty was drawn up and signed in Lisbon in 2007. It was originally intended to have been ratified by all member states by the end of 2008. This timetable failed, primarily due to the initial rejection of the Treaty in June 2008 by the Irish electorate, a decision which was reversed in a second referendum in October 2009 after Ireland secured a number of concessions related to the treaty....​

Ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon

The ratification of the Treaty of Lisbon was officially completed by all member states of the European Union on 13 November 2009 when the Czech Republic deposited its instrument of ratification with the Italian government.[2] The Lisbon Treaty came into force on the first day of the month following the deposition[3][4] of the last instrument of ratification with the government of Italy, which was 1 December 2009.[5]

Most states ratified the treaty in parliamentary processes. The Republic of Ireland was the only member state to hold a referendum on the subject....

The United Kingdom
Although the United Kingdom ratified the treaty in Parliament, this was not without some opposition. Broadly the governing Labour party supported the treaty, while the opposition Conservatives did not. The Liberal Democrats supported the treaty, while calling for a referendum on the UK’s membership of the EU as a whole.[119] Several ‘Eurosceptic’ MPs called for a referendum on the ratification of the treaty. Daniel Hannan pointed out that the Prime Minister, Tony Blair had twice promised a referendum on the matter, to which Blair replied that he had promised a referendum on the European Constitution rather than the Lisbon Treaty, which unlike the former was not a constitutional treaty.[120] In early October 2007, the Commons’ European Scrutiny Committee had found that the treaty was “substantially equivalent” to the rejected constitution.[121] In mid October 2007 Bill Cash tabled an Early Day Motion calling for a referendum on the treaty, with 47 supporting signatures.[122] In January 2008 a group of 20 MPs of the ruling Labour government (including former ministers, Kate Hoey and Frank Field) tabled a wrecking amendment to the treaty ratification bill that called for a referendum on the treaty. They pointed out that all the major political parties had promised a referendum in the 2005 general election. Prime Minister Brown (who had replaced Blair on 27 June 2007) rejected calls for an election on the grounds that the treaty had significant differences from the constitution.[123] Gisela Stuart called for a number of measures that would help avoid a crisis of legitimacy for the treaty: a referendum on ratification, the creation of a cabinet-level Europe minister who would be accountable for negotiations, and that the final ratification of the bill (and any further changes to changes to qualified majority voting (QMV) in the European parliament) to be a matter of primary legislation that would go through all the parliamentary stages rather than being whipped through.[124]

The same month, the Foreign Affairs Committee produced a report on the treaty which concluded that there was “no material difference between the provisions on foreign affairs” in the constitution and the treaty, and that the British government was underestimating and downplaying the significance of the proposed EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy and European External Action Service.[125] At the Second Reading in the commons 362 voted in favour of Lisbon and 224 against. Three Conservative MPs voted in favour of the Treaty, while 18 Labour MPs voted against it. The amendment calling for a referendum was rejected although 29 Labour MPs and 13 Liberal Democrats voted with the Conservatives in favour, and three Conservatives voted against their party.[119]​

Cameron was aware of the growing unpopularity of the Treaty of Lisbon, for various reasons, as Brits disliked the EU state telling the UK what regulations they could have, where and how they could conduct commerce, and that they had to let in tens of thousands of Poles and other ethnicities that suppressed wages. So Cameron pledged to keep Blairs promise of a referendum, and let the citizens of Britain decide on whether they would surrender their sovereignty and meld into Europe.
2015 General Election and David Camerons Pledge for a Referendum

As promised in the election manifesto, Cameron set a date for a referendum on whether the UK should remain a member of the European Union, and announced that he would be campaigning for Britain to remain within a "reformed EU".[221] The terms of the UK's membership of the EU were re-negotiated, with agreement reached in February 2016.[222]

The referendum came to be known as Brexit (a portmanteau of "British" and "exit") and was held on 23 June 2016. The result was approximately 52% in favour of leaving the European Union and 48% against, with a turnout of 72%.[223][224] On 24 June, a few hours after the results became known, Cameron announced that he would resign the office of Prime Minister by the start of the Conservative Party Conference in October 2016. In a speech the next day outside 10 Downing Street, he stated that, on account of his own advocacy on behalf of remaining in the EU, "I do not think it would be right for me to try to be the captain that steers our country to its next destination."[3][225][226]​

History of the formation of the EU


Explanation of how the EU is set up, lol


Brexit explained


Possible option of UK remaining in the EU Free Trade area.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is BloJos Brexit Plan

What Boris Johnson’s proposed Brexit deal means

Any deal that we sign with the EU must respect the UK’s vote to leave. It also must respect the EU’s Single Market and the integrity of the United Kingdom. It must protect the Good Friday Agreement and ensure there is democratic consent for any special arrangements in Northern Ireland.

Our proposal is based on this fundamental compromise and understanding. As such, our proposal is based on five key principles:

1. The Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement must be respected. It provides, and must remain, the fundamental basis for governance in Northern Ireland.
2. UK-Ireland cooperation must continue. There must be no checks at or near the Northern Ireland border. There must be a special arrangement for Northern Ireland to provide flexibility for all parties.
3. There must be an all-island regulatory zone in Ireland covering certain goods to ensure the integrity of the Single Market.
4. The zone must depend on the democratic consent of those affected – the people of Northern Ireland through the Assembly and Executive. No international deal can be signed without a clear democratic path for people to change how they are governed.
5. To maintain the territorial integrity of the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland must remain part of the UK customs territory. The UK will not be part of a customs union with the EU, but there will be sensible cooperation on customs between the UK and EU to avoid checks at the border.

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

I want to see all continental Europe go the way the UK went!

No more Globalism, no more Socialism, no more Immigration!

 

[Meathead]

But what fueled Brexit??

Too much of that wonderful "diversity".

 

[Clinton Baptiste]

But what fueled Brexit??

Too much of that wonderful "diversity".

I do not arch much tv these days, every advert, programme has black people, in my Anglo Saxon backwater I don’t see any, so how is this representative of my way of life?

 

[JimBowie1958]

I do not arch much tv these days, every advert, programme has black people, in my Anglo Saxon backwater I don’t see any, so how is this representative of my way of life?

It doesnt. You suck. You should be looking for the hospice you are going to sit in your shit and die in, lol.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Ron, you know I was just kidding with you, right?

 

[JimBowie1958]

What actually is conservative, with EU conservatives?
Are they pro life or pro choice? Will they make abortion rights go away?
Are they all against their universal health care that they get now and are going to eliminate it?
Are they going to cancel all of their gun restriction laws?
What makes them "a conservative" across the pond?

Well they are 'conservative because they want to be good little subject to the Crown, which is not really American conservativism.
They are like moderate Democrats here, pro-choice, pro-national health care, pro-Global Warming, tepid on gun rights which they see as relevant to hunting foxes, lol.

They are also in favor of mixing church and state as their monarch is also viewed by them as the rightful head of the Anglican church.

 

[sealybobo]

British general election 2019: live updates

Aww hell yes!

Breaking

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson Survives No-Confidence Vote

Johnson won the backing of 211 out of 359 Conservative lawmakers, more than the simple majority needed to remain in power, but still a significant rebellion of 148 MPs.

www.huffpost.com

Knew it.

 

[Mindful]

Breaking

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson Survives No-Confidence Vote

Johnson won the backing of 211 out of 359 Conservative lawmakers, more than the simple majority needed to remain in power, but still a significant rebellion of 148 MPs.

www.huffpost.com

Knew it.

Of what interest is it to you?

 

[sealybobo]

Of what interest is it to you?

What interest was it to jitss617 back in 2019?

If Boris' win was a good sign for Trump, what is boris' defeat?

 

[Mr Natural]

Whatever happened to jitss617?

 

[Mindful]

What interest was it to jitss617 back in 2019?

If Boris' win was a good sign for Trump, what is boris' defeat?

I don’t know, to either.

 

[sealybobo]

I don’t know, to either.

So then this is a great example of what hypocrites you Republicans are. If the Brittish Brexit leader (build a wall) was doing well in England, it would mean something to you Republicans. But if the news turns ugly, so what? Who cares? And didn't this guy even say Trump's an idiot and dangerous?

 

[Mindful]

So then this is a great example of what hypocrites you Republicans are. If the Brittish Brexit leader (build a wall) was doing well in England, it would mean something to you Republicans. But if the news turns ugly, so what? Who cares? And didn't this guy even say Trump's an idiot and dangerous?

I’m not a Republican.