Boycott Israel

[P F Tinmore]

"Palestine" as defined by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), extends "from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit."

Why say Hamas? Are you trying to poison the conversation with a small minority group?

 

[P F Tinmore]

FATAH claims; "The 1967 border, which is defined as the 1949 Armistice Line along with all legal modification thereto up to June 4th 1967, is the internationally-recognized border between Israel and the occupied State of Palestine.

Fatah is a bantustan government. They do not speak for the Palestinians. The Palestinians want them to go away.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: Boycott Israel
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BLUF: Well, that is one of the Great Paradoxes of the Arab Palestinians in modern times.

How can one boycott something that doesn't exist ?

(COMMENT)

Our pro-Palestinian friends have selective blindness and comprehension.

"Palestine" as defined by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS), extends "from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras Al-Naqurah in the north to Umm Al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit." FATAH claims; "The 1967 border, which is defined as the 1949 Armistice Line along with all legal modification thereto up to June 4th 1967, is the internationally-recognized border between Israel and the occupied State of Palestine. A basic principle of international law is that no state may acquire territory by force. Israel has no valid claim to any part of the territory it occupied in 1967. The international community does not recognize Israeli sovereignty over any part of the occupied State of Palestine, including East Jerusalem."

You will notice that the Negotiation Affairs Department (NAD) makes two broad claims here:

◈ The Borders are defined by the 1949 Armistice Line.​

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✦ There are three great questions here:​

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✧ Do the Armistice Agreements, signed by military representatives, actually set the border?​

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※ Issue ONE: The Armistice was Arrangements between Israel and Jordan - AND NOT - between Israel and any Arab Palestinian faction.​

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※ Issue TWO: Article VI(9) states that: The Armistice Demarcation Lines defined in articles V and VI of this Agreement are agreed upon by the Parties without prejudice to future territorial settlements or boundary lines or to claims of either Party relating thereto.​

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※ Issue THREE: Article XII(2) has a passage that reads: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved," The peaceful settlement was the consumption of the ◈ Jordan-Israeli Peace Treaty (1994) wherein Article 3(2) established the "the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Jordan and Israel, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967."​

◈ The international law is that no state may acquire territory by force.​

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✦ Does the Law actually say that?​

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✧ What is meant by "acquire territory by force?"​

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※ Issue FOUR: "By Force" implies the "Act of Aggression" (Article 8 bis, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court).​

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◇ An “Act of Aggression” means the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, with the territorial integrity or the political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations.​

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※ Issue FIVE: The West Bank was not sovereignty with territorial integrity or political independence of the Arab Palestinians in 1967. It had been Annexed by Jordan in 1950. The Arab Palestinians were granted Jordanian citizenship.​

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◇ This means that the border between Israel and Jordan is the Jordan River. The Jordan River is NOT a border between Jordan and the West Bank. Jordan abandon the West Bank and authority over Jerusalem on the last day of July 1988. This effectively placed the territory in the hands of the Israelis until the Oslo Accords instituted Area "A" (full civil and security control by the Palestinian Authority), Area "B" (Palestinian civil control and joint Israeli-Palestinian security control), and Area "C" (full Israeli civil and security control).​

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I hope this thumbnail outline helps people to understand just a few of the issues in the contemporary Question of Palestine.

Most Respectfully,
R

◈ The international law is that no state may acquire territory by force.✦ Does the Law actually say that?✧ What is meant by "acquire territory by force?"

◇ An “Act of Aggression” means the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, with the territorial integrity or the political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations.

You answered your own question.

 

[Hollie]

FATAH claims; "The 1967 border, which is defined as the 1949 Armistice Line along with all legal modification thereto up to June 4th 1967, is the internationally-recognized border between Israel and the occupied State of Palestine.

Fatah is a bantustan government. They do not speak for the Palestinians. The Palestinians want them to go away.

Mullah Tinmore. The voice of the people.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Postings 8081 and 8082
RE: Boycott Israel
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BLUF: WOW! I can't believe you said this.

Why say Hamas? Are you trying to poison the conversation with a small minority group?

Fatah is a bantustan government. They do not speak for the Palestinians.

(COMMENT)

The Central Elections Commission released the final results on Sunday, 29 January 2006, and announced that Change and Reform (Hamas) had won 74 of the 132 Palestinian National Council (PNC) seats, while Fatah trailed with 45.

Remember, the Palestinian People voted, not some external influence.

So, IF you rule-out Fatah, because you don't think they represent the people - and - IF you rule-out HAMAS because you think they are a minority group, THEN who is left to run the government?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Sixties Fan]

Boycott israel (with a big asterisk)

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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[P F Tinmore]

Anti-Israel protesters appeal to Ann Arbor Human Rights Commission

 

[Hollie]

Two “anti-Israeli” protestors in Ann Arbor vs.....

Israeli startups raised over $900m in December

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[P F Tinmore]

English starts @ 2:30

 

[Hollie]

UAE-Israel Business Summit - Towards a new era

Following the signing of the historic Abraham Accords, Khaleej Times and The Jerusalem Post, the two largest English-language media organisations in the UA..

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Following the signing of the historic Abraham Accords, Khaleej Times and The Jerusalem Post, the two largest English-language media organisations in the UAE and Israel, respectively, are coming together to launch the UAE-Israel Business Summit, in association with UAE-Israel Business Council.

The web broadcast discusses and highlights the bilateral business opportunities between the countries.

The initiative represents a new dawn in the multifaceted economic relationship between the two countries and will bring together top government officials, business leaders, and industry experts from across different sectors, including healthcare, hospitality, defense, security, trade and technology.

 

[Mindful]

UN's TOP 10 ANTI-ISRAEL ACTIONS OF 2020
Published by UN Watch, a NGO which tries to hold the UN to account & does much great work.

But we go one step further: The UN by its gross discriminatory actions targeting Israel, the world's only Jewish state, meets the IHRA definition of antisemitism.

The UN is its majority, an antisemitic organisation!
https://unwatch.org/un-top-10-worst-anti-israel-actions.../

 

[Sixties Fan]

Amid expanding ties between Israel and the United Arab Emirates following the Abraham Accords, a leading Palestinian BDS organization is giving up on efforts to boycott the Jewish state inside of the Arab Gulf country.

In a statement, the Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel (PACBI)—a member of the Palestinian BDS National Committee—announced that it would “exclude” those residing in the UAE from its call to ban UAE-Israeli economic and diplomatic partnerships.

“The PACBI takes into account the delicate situation of Arab subjects in Arab countries, such as the United Arab Emirates, ruled by tyrannical regimes that have become a hotbed of normalization and betrayal plans and projects in the region,” wrote the BDS group.

(full article online)

As Israel-UAE Ties Deepen, BDS Advocates ‘Give Up’ on Efforts to Boycott Jewish State | United with Israel

The Palestinian Campaign for the Academic and Cultural Boycott of Israel said it would 'exclude' those in the UAE from its call to ban Israeli partnerships.

unitedwithisrael.org

 

[P F Tinmore]

What do Americans think of the BDS movement, aimed at Israel? | Brookings

Although BDS had not been on most Americans’ radar screens, it has suddenly become a subject of more mainstream conversation. How much do Americans know about BDS and what do they think about it?

www.brookings.edu

 

[toastman]

From the very beginning, I always knew that BDS would be a failure. But I will admit that I didn’t know it would be such a MASSIVE failure that it has become. After all these years, they have little to nothing to show for their ‘efforts’.
Israel is still a thriving country. Her enemies , like BDS , only make Israel stronger ...

 

[P F Tinmore]

We welcome the
International Criminal Court - ICC's decision affirming jurisdiction over the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

 

[Hollie]

We welcome the
International Criminal Court - ICC's decision affirming jurisdiction over the Occupied Palestinian Territory.

The UN and the ICC have jurisdiction over the opinions they issue.

 

[P F Tinmore]

PRESS RELEASE: UCL’s Academic Board finds the IHRA definition of antisemitism not fit for purpose - Palestine Solidarity Campaign

UCL’s Academic Board finds the IHRA definition of antisemitism not fit for purpose, urges the College Council to retract its adoption University College London’s Academic Board to recommend to the Council of the College that it should set aside the IHRA definition of antisemitism, and replace it...

www.palestinecampaign.org

 

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