Boasberg escalates contempt inquiry over Alien Enemies Act deportations

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Presidents don’t “elect” anyone. They nominate people, for Senate approval.

No offense, libbie, but someone who can’t distinguish between an election conducted by the voters and a nomination by a single individual should NOT be giving civic lessons. (They should be taking them.)

Neither should someone who thinks a judge holds more power than a U.S. President. So much for “co-equal” - you’re giving MORE power to a single individual than the duly elected representative of all Americans.

And for what? To side with illegals over Americans? You people are really sick in the head.

Funny, I thought it was the Electoral College that elects the president. So you already know voters don’t directly appoint anyone; they choose the people who nominate or approve those who do the actual selecting. You’re making distinctions without any functional difference.

As for your strawman: I’ve already explained that both the president and anyone else can challenge a judge’s ruling through appeal, injunctions, stays, or Supreme Court review. That doesn’t mean a judge has “more power” than a president, it just means the executive can’t ignore the judicial process while it’s still being litigated.

Maybe this will help. If the executive could ignore judges, then any federal judge who dismisses charges could simply be overridden, and the government could keep someone in prison even after being acquitted. After all, it’s the executive branch that prosecutes and detains people.
If your logic were true, due process would collapse overnight.

 

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Yeah, that lib I’ve been arguing with is another hopeless case. How did Americans get so stupid?

Oh, right…now I remember.…..the libs at the Dept of Education took over.

I’m not the one struggling with high-school civics, so maybe ease up on the “stupid” commentary.

And look, if your big intellectual move is shouting “lib!” every time the facts get uncomfortable, that’s not the Department of Education’s fault. That’s just you tapping out early.

Not that I mind. I actually enjoy watching people loudly posture as experts while their own replies show they don’t understand the basics, whether that’s genuine confusion or just tribal signaling.

 

[SeaMajor7]

These rogue judges need to be slapped HARD.
It would be nice if this other thread wasn't buried in the basement....

OUTRAGE ON CAPITOL HILL: Rogue Judges Boasberg and Boardman Now Refuse to Testify Before the Senate

 

[Lisa558]

I’m not the one struggling with high-school civics, so maybe ease up on the “stupid” commentary.

And look, if your big intellectual move is shouting “lib!” every time the facts get uncomfortable, that’s not the Department of Education’s fault. That’s just you tapping out early.

Not that I mind. I actually enjoy watching people loudly posture as experts while their own replies show they don’t understand the basics, whether that’s genuine confusion or just tribal signaling.

And you are the one who is arguing “co-equal!!!” while giving priority to a local judge, who agrees with your position, over the elected U.S. President while they await a SCOTUS ruling,
Since they are “co-equal,” why not give priority to the President of the United States over a judge that nobody ever heard of, let alone voted for.

Co-equal applies when it reaches the SCOTUS, giving the judiciary power to enforce the Constitution. It does NOT mean a leftist judge can call a halt to presidential orders he doesn’t like.

Biden kept letting the illegal aliens flow in, violating the law about Emergency Action allowing temporary halt. He said he would continue to wave in the hordes of 3rd world lowlifes unless and until the SCOTUS stopped it…..which they ended up doing. So why does Biden get to do harm to America until the SCOTUS stops it, and Trump is stopped from helping America until the SCOTUS allows it?

Your default position is to do what is best for illegals from 3rd world countries rather than honest Americans, which is why you people lost the election. And instead of addressing your tone-deaf attitude, you double down on it.

Keep going, and say hello to President Vance in 2028!

 

[Lisa558]

Funny, I thought it was the Electoral College that elects the president. So you already know voters don’t directly appoint anyone; they choose the people who nominate or approve those who do the actual selecting. You’re making distinctions without any functional difference.

As for your strawman: I’ve already explained that both the president and anyone else can challenge a judge’s ruling through appeal, injunctions, stays, or Supreme Court review. That doesn’t mean a judge has “more power” than a president, it just means the executive can’t ignore the judicial process while it’s still being litigated.

Maybe this will help. If the executive could ignore judges, then any federal judge who dismisses charges could simply be overridden, and the government could keep someone in prison even after being acquitted. After all, it’s the executive branch that prosecutes and detains people.
If your logic were true, due process would collapse overnight.

The judge is given “more power” because YOU want his ruling to stand while they await a SCOTUS ruling. Why shouldn’t the U.S. President’s order be given priority while they await the ruling?

Your argument is that the rogue leftist judge gets to call the shots until the SCOTUS stops it. I say the President gets to call the shots until the SCOTUS stops it.

 

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The judge is given “more power” because YOU want his ruling to stand while they await a SCOTUS ruling. Why shouldn’t the U.S. President’s order be given priority while they await the ruling?

Because in this case giving priority to the President's order would cause irreparable harm to the people bringing the suit. Like being held in CECOT and be subjected to torture.

When that harm wasn't present like in the contempt bit of the proceedings a stay is issued. Bringing up the matter to the court of appeals. Who lifted the stay allowing Boasberg to proceed. After he rules the government is allowed to appeal. So no he isn't given more power. But we both have established that you aren't interested in the law, or context.

You are to busy crying about what you think I'm saying. Strawmen work that way.

 

[Lisa558]

Because in this case giving priority to the President's order would cause irreparable harm to the people bringing the suit. Like being held in CECOT and be subjected to torture.

When that harm wasn't present like in the contempt bit of the proceedings a stay is issued. Bringing up the matter to the court of appeals. Who lifted the stay allowing Boasberg to proceed. After he rules the government is allowed to appeal. So no he isn't given more power. But we both have established that you aren't interested in the law, or context.

You are to busy crying about what you think I'm saying. Strawman work that way.

And stopping the President’s order causes harm to the American people.

 

[WorldWatcher]

And stopping the President’s order causes harm to the American people.

No it didn't.

The order involved person in ICE custody the administration was trying to get out of federal jurisdiction.

The individuals were in ICE custody. The order was to not allow the planes to take off or if they had return them to the US. The individuals would have remained in ICE custody while the emergency motions were reviewed with both sides making their case.

The American people were in no danger of harm since the individuals invovled were already in federal custody.

WW

 

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And stopping the President’s order causes harm to the American people.

Only in your adled brain. In any case. Keep on your talking points. I'm sure they feel comfortable to you.

I explained how the real world works.

 

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No it didn't.

The order involved person in ICE custody the administration was trying to get out of federal jurisdiction.

The individuals were in ICE custody. The order was to not allow the planes to take off or if they had return them to the US. The individuals would have remained in ICE custody while the emergency motions were reviewed with both sides making their case.

The American people were in no danger of harm since the individuals invovled were already in federal custody.

WW

Don't bother. Lisa558 has her opinion. The facts of the case are simply not her concern.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Don't bother. Lisa558 has her opinion. The facts of the case are simply not her concern.

What will interesting is Bove (#3 at DOJ) at the time telling DOJ attorneys to tell judges to "**** Off".

I'm sure judges/justices are going to be realy pleased with that.

WW

 

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What will interesting is Bove (#3 at DOJ) at the time telling DOJ attorneys to tell judges to "**** Off".

I'm sure judges/justices are going to be realy pleased with that.

WW

If that can be established we'll know who will be pardoned next.

Silver lining being that it'll likely be the next person doing Trump's bidding losing their law license.

 

[Lisa558]

If that can be established we'll know who will be pardoned next.

Silver lining being that it'll likely be the next person doing Trump's bidding losing their law license.

The people doing Biden’s bidding didn’t lose theirs. Instead, the Autopen People issued blanket pardons to people who hadn’t even yet been charged with a crime.

 

[WorldWatcher]

If that can be established we'll know who will be pardoned next.

Silver lining being that it'll likely be the next person doing Trump's bidding losing their law license.

#1 Trump can't pardon a civil contempt ruling.

#2 Trump can't pardon state bar actions.

So there is that.

WW

 

[Edgetho]

I fail to see what an Op-ed stating that the legislative branch is the most powerful. Has to do with a discussion wether or not the executive branch can ignore rulings by the judicial branch.

It's basically all those tier lists you find on YouTube. And just as useful. The fact of the matter is that the separate branches simply serve different functions.

The problem you seem to be having is that you somehow seem to believe that people using "big words" by definition have something relevant to say. While I believe that using "big words" don't mean that what you say is necessarily true or like in this case relevant.

But I appreciate the condescending tone..to bad it's not actually backed up by a decent argument.

Don't need an argument. The Congressional is easily the most powerful, they can Impeach an remove any member of the Federal Government, including the POTUS and any member of SCOTUS. They can declare war, levy taxes and make law. They can even start the process of changing the Constitution, in which the Executive and Judicial Branch has almost no part.

The Executive carries out the wishes of Congress through its Police Power and, if necessary, its Military power. The Executive controls the Police and the Military.

The Judicial Branch is supposed to mediate disagreements between Congress and the Executive, among other routine, mundane duties. But that doesn't aeem to be good enough for them. They are, and have been since 1804, trying to usurp power not awarded them in the Constitution.

They are not 'co-equal' (a juvenile term, at best), they serve an equally important function in government, but that is far from being 'co-equal'. Not even close.

And they have gotten out of control. Just like the executive branch did for jusr over 100 years. Abraham Lincoln was the first of the "Imperial" Presidents but FDR was the worst. Then, Nixon came along and got slapped down for doing what every president before him did. He just happened to be sitting in the Catbird Seat when Congress got tired of the Executive Branch's bullshit.

Now, it is past time, WAY past time, We The People slapped the Judicial Branch back into reality. They are over-reaching and that is what this thread is about.

Congress answers to its local constituents, POTUS answers to ALL The People and the Judicial answers to -- No one.

That needs to change or they need to start acting like adults and stop inserting their personal biases into their rulings.

I suspect it won't be easy. But it has to happen or our Republic (yes, we are a Republic, the Constitution says so) is doomed

 

[Nostra]

The courts have told Boasberg he isn’t in charge of immigration.

 

[SaxonJackson]

"Boasberg escalates contempt inquiry over Alien Enemies Act deportations



The judge ordered testimony from two of the top DOJ lawyers involved in the March deportation operation.


A federal judge is escalating his inquiry into whether Trump administration officials deliberately flouted his March 15 order to prevent immigration officials from delivering more than 100 Venezuelan men to a notorious prison in El Salvador.

James Boasberg, the chief judge of the U.S. District Court in Washington, said Monday that it’s “premature” to recommend criminal prosecution of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who revealed last month that she gave the order to turn over the men to Salvadoran authorities on the advice of administration lawyers.

Boasberg is now demanding that two of the top Justice Department lawyers involved in the March deportation operation — including one who has since been fired for resisting some of the administration’s moves — appear for questioning next week."

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/12/08/judge-boasberg-alien-enemies-act-deportations-el-salvador-00681503

Boasberg appears to be heading the Democrats' shadow gov't. Now, he's his own executive branch investigating the democratically elected executive branch. Who elected Boasberg?

James Boasberg is Jewish. You're not allowed to criticize him. You're a "hate-filled" "antisemite" if you do.

 

[Lisa558]

James Boasberg is Jewish. You're not allowed to criticize him. You're a "hate-filled" "antisemite" if you do.

Huh? Unlike libs who go into meltdown when you criticize a Muslim or a black, Jews - and everyone - are allowed to criticize behavior that is awful, including by Jews.

I think George Soros is a horrible human being. I likewise think Boasberg, while not horrible, is very wrong to care more about illegals than Americans.

By the same token, I think Omar is a horrible human being. So is are the blacks who killed people on subways, or tried to. The difference is, I will be called a Muslim-hater or a racist for saying so.

 

[Lisa558]

Let’s clarify what an antisemite is:

- Someone who criticizes a radical left Jewish judge, or an anti-American Jew, is not antisemitic.

- Someone who says the Jews own the media, control the government, or refer to “the Jewish terrorists” is.

 

[kyzr]

Huh? Unlike libs who go into meltdown when you criticize a Muslim or a black, Jews - and everyone - are allowed to criticize behavior that is awful, including by Jews.

I never let the democrats play the race card, the Jew card, or the muzzie card. Actions can be criticized for what they are.

I think George Soros is a horrible human being. I likewise think Boasberg, while not horrible, is very wrong to care more about illegals than Americans.

Boasberg is a horrible human being as well as a horrible judge, I don't care what his religious beliefs are.

The Selective Outrage of Judge James Boasberg

Below is my column in The Hill on two controversies involving Chief Judge James Boasberg this week in Washington, D.C. Both involve claims that branches undermined or intruded on the authority of a…

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By the same token, I think Omar is a horrible human being.

Who is Omar?

So are the blacks who killed people on subways, or tried to. The difference is, I will be called a Muslim-hater or a racist for saying so.

When you are right what do you care what morons call you?