Blowing Up Darwin

All elements that are needed to form life can be found in the Universe, and not in those self-written desert books. And these books even reject and refute natural evolution - so much for that part.

BTW
The first universal common ancestor (FUKA) is a proposed non-cellular entity, that was the earliest organism with a genetic code capable of biological translation of RNA molecules into peptides to produce proteins. That is, FUCA would be the first biological system to have genetic code for proteins.

Before the appearance of compartmentalized biological entities like FUCA, Life had already begun to organize itself and emerge in a pre-celluar era known as the RNA world. The universal presence of both biological translation mechanism and genetic code in every biological systems indicates monophyly, a unique origin for all biological systems including viruses and cells.

Whilst those desert religions are holding on desperately to their non-science based, and self-written "false" and amateur based claims, Science and archeology keep "digging" into the subject and continuously ADVANCE in knowledge - notice the difference?
The elements to create almost anything exist in the Universe but, it takes an intellect to put them together to make something.

Is it Fuka or Fuca? At any rate, explain who or what animated it. Why would it act the way it does and organize itself?

Keep digging and let us know. So far all the 'digging' has only produced more questions. ID is no dead end, it is a hypothesis. Just like believing evolution is the key to the origin of life. Not even Darwin believed that.
 
The elements to create almost anything exist in the Universe but, it takes an intellect to put them together to make something.

Is it Fuka or Fuca? At any rate, explain who or what animated it. Why would it act the way it does and organize itself?

Keep digging and let us know. So far all the 'digging' has only produced more questions. ID is no dead end, it is a hypothesis. Just like believing evolution is the key to the origin of life. Not even Darwin believed that.

Miller-Urey Experiment​

 
The elements to create almost anything exist in the Universe but, it takes an intellect to put them together to make something.

No it doesn't. It takes chance and time.

Is it Fuka or Fuca? At any rate, explain who or what animated it. Why would it act the way it does and organize itself?

Because of the laws of nature.



Keep digging and let us know. So far all the 'digging' has only produced more questions. ID is no dead end, it is a hypothesis.

With no evidence.


Just like believing evolution is the key to the origin of life. Not even Darwin believed that.

There's the fallacy again. You keep getting your wires crossed.
 
Sigh.

Like I told Leo, you have an incorrect definition of life.

There's no "bio and abio", EVERYTHING is bio.

Don't you get it? There are 240-odd elements, why should carbon be special?

You're trying to divide the universe into parts that don't exist. Just because you can't wrap your mind around a very simple concept.

What's the universe made of? Photons, electrons, protons?

What are human beings made of? Photons, electrons, protons. There's no difference. Same thing, same stuff.

Don't try to apply creation to biology, it doesn't work. It's a whole different topic. It has nothing to do with evolution, one way or the other.

Go back and read the thread. Every single one of you creationists is perverting reality. If you think life is somehow different from the universe, please define it and tell us what makes it different. Start with the fundamental forces of nature. Tell us how they're any different for life.

The laws of physics tell us we get combinatorial explosion from basic forces. Some of the results are stable, some aren't. That's pretty much all there is to it.

Everything is bio. Words like abiotic and prebiotic have specific technical meanings, they don't mean "without life".

You are confused because your definition of life is incorrect.
So, you say biological entities existed before the creation of life? Where did they come from? I never said biology was outside the Universe, I said that life was intelligently designed FROM the Universe. We just don't know how. You seem to claim it was some kind of accident but have no proof so you rely on belief just like those who believe God created all yet you point your finger at those folks.
 
So, you say biological entities existed before the creation of life? Where did they come from? I never said biology was outside the Universe, I said that life was intelligently designed FROM the Universe. We just don't know how. You seem to claim it was some kind of accident but have no proof so you rely on belief just like those who believe God created all yet you point your finger at those folks.
The "accident" is believing that some universal being created life on our planet.
 
So, you say biological entities existed before the creation of life? Where did they come from? I never said biology was outside the Universe, I said that life was intelligently designed FROM the Universe. We just don't know how. You seem to claim it was some kind of accident but have no proof so you rely on belief just like those who believe God created all yet you point your finger at those folks.
It is you who have no proof.

Evolution has evidence and plausible pathways.

Creationism doesn't.
 
That is a belief.

A belief with evidence.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Doesn't matter. They just are.

Nor do you have any evidence, just belief but you arrogantly denigrate other beliefs.
You are lying AGAIN.

Evolution has 18 converging lines of evidence.

Creationism has zero.

You are still being dishonest.

Science is outside your scope.

Religion has no business encroaching on science.
 
That is a belief.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Nor do you have any evidence, just belief but you arrogantly denigrate other beliefs.
Our fossil record is quite complete.

You should look at it sometimes.
 
The "accident" is believing that some universal being created life on our planet.
Neither the view that Darwin offered to explain life on earth, or the Bible's version is able to submit to experimentation. There is no "proof" for either.
Both provide elegant explanations.
Both require simple belief.


Notice, further, that the Left poltical view chooses Darwin and abhors God as the explanation, and the Right sees the Judeo-Christian explanation for life on earth, and for Western Civilization itself.
Isn't that interesting?

That's what they "taught" you to "believe" in government school, the Left's church.
 
Neither the view that Darwin offered to explain life on earth, or the Bible's version is able to submit to experimentation. There is no "proof" for either.
Both provide elegant explanations.
Both require simple belief.


Notice, further, that the Left poltical view chooses Darwin and abhors God as the explanation, and the Right sees the Judeo-Christian explanation for life on earth, and for Western Civilization itself.
Isn't that interesting?

That's what they "taught" you to "believe" in government school, the Left's church.
The fossil record is quite complete russian chix.

It doesn't require faith to accept it's truth.
 
It is you who have no proof.

Evolution has evidence and plausible pathways.

Creationism doesn't.
No it doesn'.


It is a belief, like any other religion.



"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.



"There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.
More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."
Berlinski



You are entitled to your beliefs.

Just don't call it science.
 
The fossil record is quite complete russian chix.

It doesn't require faith to accept it's truth.
False.

Now watch how deftly I eviscerate your lie.


.“He [Darwin] prophesied that future generations of paleontologists would fill in these gaps by diligent search….It has become abundantly clear that the fossil record will not confirm this part of Darwin’s predictions. Nor is the problem a miserably poor record. The fossil record simply shows that this prediction was wrong.” (Eldridge, Niles, The Myths of Human Evolution, 1984, pp.45-46.)


Where fossil records exist, they defeat Darwin's theory.


The experts say so.


a. . The history of most fossil species includes two features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change is usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and “fully formed.”
"The Episodic Nature of Evolutionary Change", p. 182

b. "Paleontologists have paid an enormous price for Darwin's argument. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we almost never see the very process we profess to study. ...The history of most fossil species includes tow [sic] features particularly inconsistent with gradualism: 1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear; morphological change I [sic] usually limited and directionless. 2. Sudden appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and 'fully formed.'" (Gould, Stephen J. The Panda's Thumb, 1980, p. 181-182)

c. There is no fossil record establishing historical continuity of structure for most characters that might be used to assess relationships among phyla." Katherine G. Field et al., "Molecular Phylogeny of the animal Kingdom," Science, Vol. 239, 12 February 1988, p. 748.

d. ". . . the gradual morphological transitions between presumed ancestors and descendants, anticipated by most biologists, are missing." David E. Schindel (Curator of Invertebrate Fossils, Peabody Museum of Natural History), "The Gaps in the Fossil Record," Nature, Vol. 297, 27 May 1982, p. 282.



e. In “The Biological Big Bang model for the major transitions in evolution,” 2007, Koonin writes “Major transitions in biological evolution show the same pattern of sudden emergence of diverse forms at a new level of complexity….do not seem to fit the tree pattern that, following Darwin's original proposal, remains the dominant description of biological evolution.” So….Darwin was wrong?” In each of these pivotal nexuses in life's history, the principal "types" seem to appear rapidly and fully equipped with the signature features of the respective new level of biological organization. No intermediate "grades" or intermediate forms between different types are detectable.” The Biological Big Bang model for the major transitions in evolution



Did you get that? ‘Intermediate forms’ are …..imaginary.
 
No it doesn'.


It is a belief, like any other religion.



"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.



"There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.
More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."
Berlinski



You are entitled to your beliefs.

Just don't call it science.
Hilarious

Keep your religious beliefs far from science.
 
Hilarious

Keep your religious beliefs far from science.
I know I shouldn't let you in on the game, but you are so dumb I can't resist.

You post the propaganda fed to you in government school, and I destroy it with linked and sourced quotes for textbook and journals by real scientists.


And you go right on with the propaganda!


That's where I used you like the tool you are: readers can see what Darwin believers are.



And based on what we just proved, I bet you vote Democrat.
 
I know I shouldn't let you in on the game, but you are so dumb I can't resist.

You post the propaganda fed to you in government school, and I destroy it with linked and sourced quotes for textbook and journals by real scientists.


And you go right on with the propaganda!


That's where I used you like the tool you are: readers can see what Darwin believers are.



And based on what we just proved, I bet you vote Democrat.
Let me get this straight. YOU on this message board destroyed the fact of evolution. Where did you bury the fossils?

Hilarious
 
You are lying AGAIN.

Darwin did not offer to explain life on earth.

Please stop slinging shit like a stupid leftard



Horseshit.

"Darwin did not offer to explain life on earth."

I am so disapointed: surely you can come up with a more substantial lie than that.


What is the name of Darwin's own book?

And what is a "species"? And where are they found?



Let's quote the very book, one which you clearly never consulted:

"THE ABRUPT manner in which whole groups of species suddenly appear in certain formations, has been urged by several palæontologists—for instance, by Agassiz, Pictet, and Sedgwick—as a fatal objection to the belief in the transmutation of species. If numerous species, belonging to the same genera or families, have really started into life at once, the fact would be fatal to the theory of evolution through natural selection." Darwin, "On The Origin of Species," p.302

“Why, if species have descended from other species by insensibly fine gradations, do we not everywhere see innumerable transitional forms.”ch.6


. To the question why we do not find records of these vast primordial periods, I can give no satisfactory answer.”
Darwin, "On The Origin of Speices," chapter nine


I once had respect for you......had.
 
Let me get this straight. YOU on this message board destroyed the fact of evolution. Where did you bury the fossils?

Hilarious
You've been useful, served the purpose you were born to serve.

No reason for you to return.
 
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