Blowing Up Darwin

[Robert W]

Your every post is anti-science and drenched in appeals to gods.

Science has not yet done the creating life though women create it.
Tell me of any nobel prize winner who demonstrated the science of creating life?

 

[Robert W]

Is the biblical flood literal Ior not? Is Joshua's sun-standing still (i.e., Earth stopping its rotation) a true rendering of an historical event, or not? Is Adam and Eve and original sin true (this one is primary, for without it, all the rest is unnecessary).

My high school science teacher mentioned to we students that the sun stood still. He related it to the planet Venus first showing up. To stop the spin, that you have not yet scientifically explained, it takes a massive force. The event of Venus showing up was in a book he told us to read about. But he did not mention god as you constantly do.
I have studied that flood myself. My finding was it was not global at all, but was much more localized. Due to at the time humans not having cars of vehicles that to them it seemed global. As to your Adam and Eve story, bear in mind at the time the Jews created the Bible, some humans on earth spoke of magic dragons. I have not seen one myself.

 

[abu afak]

Science has not yet done the creating life though women create it.
Tell me of any nobel prize winner who demonstrated the science of creating life?

Tell me any/Which/Witch god created life (or any tech/standard of living advancement) and post the evidence
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[Robert W]

Tell me any/Which/Witch god created life (or any tech/standard of living advancement) and post the evidence
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Science has not yet done the creating life though women create it.
Tell me of any nobel prize winner who demonstrated the science of creating life.

 

[scruffy]

Science has not yet done the creating life though women create it.
Tell me of any nobel prize winner who demonstrated the science of creating life?

I agree this is creationist trolling. We've already been over this point ad nauseum in this thread.

It is engineers who create things. Scientists study what already is. Sometimes both roles are filled by the same person.

The important word in your post is YET. Both scientists and engineers have 100% confidence it will happen. That's why we ignore the religious trolling, from the same bunch that insisted for 1200 years the earth was the center of the universe, and even killed people over the point.

The word YET in no way implies impossibility. Science simply slaps your silly ass and says "be patient". When an engineer builds a radio he needs a schematic. Science isn't YET done building the schematic.

And even then, no one is going to build life from molecules, just as an engineer isn't going to build resistors by hand from carbon, or wind transformers by hand, or make wire by hand. Why would we waste our time building tiny molecules? They already exist in abundance! We need to understand gene expression, just as Rutherford needed to understand vacuum tubes.

The incessant creationist trolling is annoying AND STUPID. We will create new life forms with or without you. It will happen. Probably within our lifetimes. Now that AI is on the scene the pace will pick up. We need the computers to process the 4^1500 variations of a 23s ribosomal subunit. Because God didn't give humans enough brain power and a long enough lifespan. So we have to do it ourselves.

We COOPERATE with God in this effort. We're partners, not enemies. The idiot creationists make it seem like we're enemies, but we're not. And at the end of the day, scientists will know more about how God operates than the fool creationists who kept trying to tell us the earth is the center of the universe. And I'll bet you 100 million bucks that even the creationists will partake of the fruits of science. And benefit from them.

Please, stop with the trolling. Faith is a very dangerous thing when it denies evidence. It's bad for you, bad for me, and bad for God. God gave you a brain so you could use it. Please do so.

 

[Hollie]

My high school science teacher mentioned to we students that the sun stood still. He related it to the planet Venus first showing up. To stop the spin, that you have not yet scientifically explained, it takes a massive force. The event of Venus showing up was in a book he told us to read about. But he did not mention god as you constantly do.
I have studied that flood myself. My finding was it was not global at all, but was much more localized. Due to at the time humans not having cars of vehicles that to them it seemed global. As to your Adam and Eve story, bear in mind at the time the Jews created the Bible, some humans on earth spoke of magic dragons. I have not seen one myself.

Nothing about your gods having any hand in the creation of the universe or life on the planet. Why would your gods be necessary?

Didn’t a sun god already exist before the invention of your gods?

 

[Woodznutz]

You do understand that there was no global flood, right?

“It’s a metaphor” it’s a common tactic used when religionists are held to a consistent, identifiable standard. Christians will claim that the genesis fable is a standard by which we can identify the beginning of a 6,000 year old earth. Is that accurate or not? If not, what standard (other than none or personal preference), is used to reach that conclusion? Similarly, if the Noah fable is not literally true, what does that suggest about the veracity of other biblical tales? In other words, is the message of the bibles a cold, unalterable law: Ye must believeth this, or be damned, or rather an exercise in pick and choose theism?

Are we to accept that the bibles range from fact to fiction, from literalism to metaphor helter-skelter, and humans are then asked to pick and choose which aspects are literal and which are not?

Is the biblical flood literal Ior not? Is Joshua's sun-standing still (i.e., Earth stopping its rotation) a true rendering of an historical event, or not? Is Adam and Eve and original sin true (this one is primary, for without it, all the rest is unnecessary).

Kinda. Sorta. Yes and no, some yes, some no. Super. Make it up as you go. That's what you embrace. Meanwhile, the underlying message remains:

Believe this, or be eternally, forever, always and from now until never – roasted in Hell.

Sorry, but humanity can do better.

The Bible must be studied. Study will clear up lots of misconceptions. Do as the Bereans. God hides things in the narratives. We need to search them out.

 

[Woodznutz]

You do understand that there was no global flood, right?

The Biblical flood was real but bears little resemblance to the common belief. Why would God flood Mt. Everest when there was no one up there? In fact, there were very few people on earth at the time. The world shows evidence of widespread flooding (consider this statement carefully).

 

[Woodznutz]

Oh please. You anti-science types are just too much.

Just because I don't like pickleball doesn't mean I'm not a sports fan.

Pickleball: ToE
Sports: All other science.

 

[Robert W]

Nothing about your gods having any hand in the creation of the universe or life on the planet. Why would your gods be necessary?

Didn’t a sun god already exist before the invention of your gods?

What are these gods you keep talking here about?

 

[Robert W]

I agree this is creationist trolling. We've already been over this point ad nauseum in this thread.

It is engineers who create things. Scientists study what already is. Sometimes both roles are filled by the same person.

The important word in your post is YET. Both scientists and engineers have 100% confidence it will happen. That's why we ignore the religious trolling, from the same bunch that insisted for 1200 years the earth was the center of the universe, and even killed people over the point.

The word YET in no way implies impossibility. Science simply slaps your silly ass and says "be patient". When an engineer builds a radio he needs a schematic. Science isn't YET done building the schematic.

And even then, no one is going to build life from molecules, just as an engineer isn't going to build resistors by hand from carbon, or wind transformers by hand, or make wire by hand. Why would we waste our time building tiny molecules? They already exist in abundance! We need to understand gene expression, just as Rutherford needed to understand vacuum tubes.

The incessant creationist trolling is annoying AND STUPID. We will create new life forms with or without you. It will happen. Probably within our lifetimes. Now that AI is on the scene the pace will pick up. We need the computers to process the 4^1500 variations of a 23s ribosomal subunit. Because God didn't give humans enough brain power and a long enough lifespan. So we have to do it ourselves.

We COOPERATE with God in this effort. We're partners, not enemies. The idiot creationists make it seem like we're enemies, but we're not. And at the end of the day, scientists will know more about how God operates than the fool creationists who kept trying to tell us the earth is the center of the universe. And I'll bet you 100 million bucks that even the creationists will partake of the fruits of science. And benefit from them.

Please, stop with the trolling. Faith is a very dangerous thing when it denies evidence. It's bad for you, bad for me, and bad for God. God gave you a brain so you could use it. Please do so.

Readers all ^^^ that is a splendid example of trolling. He tells me he will create life. I know how. It is calling sex with females. Try that and bingo the deed is done. Notice readers not once did I mention faith, nor enemies, nor partners, nor GOD on my end of posting other than replying to those who speak of god.

 

[Woodznutz]

I agree this is creationist trolling. We've already been over this point ad nauseum in this thread.

It is engineers who create things. Scientists study what already is. Sometimes both roles are filled by the same person.

The important word in your post is YET. Both scientists and engineers have 100% confidence it will happen. That's why we ignore the religious trolling, from the same bunch that insisted for 1200 years the earth was the center of the universe, and even killed people over the point.

The word YET in no way implies impossibility. Science simply slaps your silly ass and says "be patient". When an engineer builds a radio he needs a schematic. Science isn't YET done building the schematic.

And even then, no one is going to build life from molecules, just as an engineer isn't going to build resistors by hand from carbon, or wind transformers by hand, or make wire by hand. Why would we waste our time building tiny molecules? They already exist in abundance! We need to understand gene expression, just as Rutherford needed to understand vacuum tubes.

The incessant creationist trolling is annoying AND STUPID. We will create new life forms with or without you. It will happen. Probably within our lifetimes. Now that AI is on the scene the pace will pick up. We need the computers to process the 4^1500 variations of a 23s ribosomal subunit. Because God didn't give humans enough brain power and a long enough lifespan. So we have to do it ourselves.

We COOPERATE with God in this effort. We're partners, not enemies. The idiot creationists make it seem like we're enemies, but we're not. And at the end of the day, scientists will know more about how God operates than the fool creationists who kept trying to tell us the earth is the center of the universe. And I'll bet you 100 million bucks that even the creationists will partake of the fruits of science. And benefit from them.

Please, stop with the trolling. Faith is a very dangerous thing when it denies evidence. It's bad for you, bad for me, and bad for God. God gave you a brain so you could use it. Please do so.

News Flash. The earth is the center of the universe (where else would it be)?

 

[scruffy]

Readers all ^^^ that is a splendid example of trolling. He tells me he will create life. I know how. It is calling sex with females. Try that and bingo the deed is done. Notice readers not once did I mention faith, nor enemies, nor partners, nor GOD on my end of posting other than replying to those who speak of god.

Sex with females is not CREATING life, you idiot.

It's merely propagating existing life.

Damn. Please try not to be such a moron.

 

[Woodznutz]

Scientists will destroy the earth and everything on it long before we Bible thumpers do. Can you picture Christians doing experiments on "gain of function" of bacteria and viruses in the back of a church? Care to talk about that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

I don’t need to respond to you opinion.

I will respond if you ever post a fact instead of propaganda.

But you do respond....as you just did.


You should judge by the fact that everything I post is linked, documented and sourced.

And it should be an inspiration to you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are so far over their heads a telescope can't find you. Curiosity and not certainty is the mark of the super high intelligent person. They claim to be certain. Because it is similar to not believing the oceans have bottoms because they never saw any of them.

In fact there are many stars, alleged to be billions of them, yet they have no clue what created them all.

Thank you for that and another interesting post.

My purpose is educational, and to have interest in a topic: we are near 800 responses here.

I'm going to post another summary post.

 

[Hollie]

Thank you for than and another interesting post.

My purpose is educational, and to have interest in a topic: we are near 800 responses here.

I'm going to post another summary post.

And as we have seen, this thread is another disaster for your anti-science Jihad.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Some 800 have offered opinions on or near the topic.

This is the topic:

Neither the view that Darwin offered to explain life on earth, or the Bible's version is able to submit to experimentation. There is no "proof" for either.
Both provide elegant explanations.
Both require simple belief.


Notice, further, that the Left poltical view chooses Darwin and abhors God as the explanation, and the Right sees the Judeo-Christian explanation for life on earth, and for Western Civilization itself.
Isn't that interesting?


And this: the Left embraces death, while the Right embraces life.



Why is the Left's version so popular?

“Antonio Gramsci, the philosopher who became the iconic thinker of the 1960s, laid down the blueprint for precisely what has happened in Britain: the capture of all society's institutions, such as schools, universities, churches, the media, the legal profession, the police and voluntary groups. This intellectual elite was persuaded to sing from the same subversive hymn-sheet so that the moral beliefs of the majority would be replaced by the values of those on the margins of society, ....

At the core of those Western majority values lay the Mosaic code, which first gave the world the concept of morality, self-discipline and laws regulating behavior. Who, then, could be surprised that the Jews found themselves in the left's crosshairs?”
Phillips, “Londonistan,” P.118-119


Phillips explains it.

 

[Hollie]

Some 800 have offered opinions on or near the topic.

This is the topic:

Neither the view that Darwin offered to explain life on earth, or the Bible's version is able to submit to experimentation. There is no "proof" for either.
Both require simple belief.


Notice, further, that the Left poltical view chooses Darwin and abhors God as the explanation, and the Right sees the Judeo-Christian explanation for life on earth, and for Western Civilization itself.
Isn't that interesting?


And this: the Left embraces death, while the Right embraces life.



Why is the Left's version so popular?

“Antonio Gramsci, the philosopher who became the iconic thinker of the 1960s, laid down the blueprint for precisely what has happened in Britain: the capture of all society's institutions, such as schools, universities, churches, the media, the legal profession, the police and voluntary groups. This intellectual elite was persuaded to sing from the same subversive hymn-sheet so that the moral beliefs of the majority would be replaced by the values of those on the margins of society, ....

At the core of those Western majority values lay the Mosaic code, which first gave the world the concept of morality, self-discipline and laws regulating behavior. Who, then, could be surprised that the Jews found themselves in the left's crosshairs?”
Phillips, “Londonistan,” P.118-119


Phillips explains it.

Nonsense. Biological evolution is a proven fact. As much as that contradicts the losers and charlatans you worship at the Disco’tute, none of your endless cutting and pasting of “quotes” has refuted the science.

 

[Robert W]

Some 800 have offered opinions on or near the topic.

This is the topic:

Neither the view that Darwin offered to explain life on earth, or the Bible's version is able to submit to experimentation. There is no "proof" for either.
Both require simple belief.


Notice, further, that the Left poltical view chooses Darwin and abhors God as the explanation, and the Right sees the Judeo-Christian explanation for life on earth, and for Western Civilization itself.
Isn't that interesting?


And this: the Left embraces death, while the Right embraces life.



Why is the Left's version so popular?

“Antonio Gramsci, the philosopher who became the iconic thinker of the 1960s, laid down the blueprint for precisely what has happened in Britain: the capture of all society's institutions, such as schools, universities, churches, the media, the legal profession, the police and voluntary groups. This intellectual elite was persuaded to sing from the same subversive hymn-sheet so that the moral beliefs of the majority would be replaced by the values of those on the margins of society, ....

At the core of those Western majority values lay the Mosaic code, which first gave the world the concept of morality, self-discipline and laws regulating behavior. Who, then, could be surprised that the Jews found themselves in the left's crosshairs?”
Phillips, “Londonistan,” P.118-119


Phillips explains it.

I have perhaps a dozen books about evolution. I first questioned them when asking about abiogenesis. If they solve that problem, I will pay more attention to what they claim. Actually they do not explain scientifically the first thing creating life.