Blowing Up Darwin

PoliticalChic
Leo123
Woodznutz

This is how God operates.

You can't expect a bunch of 3000 year old Jews to know about this stuff.

You can't expect Darwin to know about it either.

But you can expect politicians to abuse it. Every time.

It's not the fault of science. It's the fault of evil politicians.

Real science doesn't care about politics.

But politics cares a lot about science. In an opportunistic kind of way. Much like a pickpocket looks for victims.
I don’t understand what point you’re attempting to make. Your first statement that ‘this is how God operates’ is clearly arrogant and foolish. After that, you just rant.

Where did the very first living cell come from? So far with all your lengthy posts you still have no answer.
 
I don’t understand what point you’re attempting to make. Your first statement that ‘this is how God operates’ is clearly arrogant and foolish. After that, you just rant.

Where did the very first living cell come from? So far with all your lengthy posts you still have no answer.
More creationist bullshit?

I answered your question 5 times already

Go back and read the thread.

Damn you people are annoying. Y'all are exactly like the idiot leftists the OP is complaining about.
 
More creationist bullshit?

I answered your question 5 times already

Go back and read the thread.

Damn you people are annoying. Y'all are exactly like the idiot leftists the OP is complaining about.
I for one don't have the mental capacity to understand evolution, therefore I would have to treat it like a religion and accept it on faith.
 
I for one don't have the mental capacity to understand evolution, therefore I would have to treat it like a religion and accept it on faith.
It's been the same story for hundreds of years. On the one hand we have people who want to glom onto science and use it for their own purposes, and on the other hand we have people who want to deny evidence for their own purposes.

The Church has been one of the worst offenders in the second case. It took them 1200 years to acknowledge the earth isn't the center of the universe, and they actually killed people for saying it.
 
Oh. So it's a metaphor when you want it to be, but Genesis is literal.
I see.



lol

The Jews didn't like Him much. :p



lol

"Attributes" of God?

Bestowed by humans?

You don';t see how silly that is?
Let' cut to the chase, and see how much you have learned int this thread.

Is Darwin's theory a "proven fact"?


Is it offered to the public as a "proven fact"?

Didn't you say you are religious and believe in God?


What do you suppose it the reason that atheist Devil worshipper Karl Marx, and subsequent iterations of communists/socialists advance the false theory explaining life on earth.


BTW.....are there any proven examples of life, other than Petri dish inhabitants, 'evolving' from one species into another?
 
Your documentation is worth about as much as the leftard MSM.

Johnson is an idiot. If I had a nickel for every idiot that thinks he understands science I'd be filthy rich

We observe complex structures being created by random mutations and selection EVERY SINGLE DAY in the laboratory. Hundreds of times a day!

The above fucking idiot has obviously never visited a hospital.

If I were you I'd stop quoting morons. Because it makes you look like one too.

Science trumps conjecture every time. EVERY time. Only idiots deny the evidence that's right in front of their faces.

Sorry but this guy Johnson is a world class idiot. You should find credible sources.
Now you have sunk to the level of a liar.


I provied excellent documentation.


l'll take that as a white flag.
 
The Bible can't either.

It also can't explain where God came from.




Nope. Can you?




You should learn some math. Math trumps conjecture every time.

Bacterial DNA is less than 10 million base pairs long. 10 million is 10^7

But there are 10^30 bacteria on earth.

That means mutation and recombination has probability 1 with 23 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE of redundancy.

That's a 1 with 23 zeros after it

Pretty much kills any attempted quote mining.

"The Bible can't either."



There is a sort that will say the most absurd things when they have lost the argument. I see you are one of those.
 
PoliticalChic
Leo123
Woodznutz

This is how God operates.

You can't expect a bunch of 3000 year old Jews to know about this stuff.

You can't expect Darwin to know about it either.

But you can expect politicians to abuse it. Every time.

It's not the fault of science. It's the fault of evil politicians.

Real science doesn't care about politics.

But politics cares a lot about science. In an opportunistic kind of way. Much like a pickpocket looks for victims.
Science is based on the results of experimentation, the Scientific Method.

Darwin's theory is philosophy: conjecture and concensus based aon an elegant story about the origin of life's variations.

You do quite the tap-dance in order to avoid the truth.



Are there any experiments that document one species changing into another?

"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


"There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.
More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."
Berlinski
 
I don’t understand what point you’re attempting to make. Your first statement that ‘this is how God operates’ is clearly arrogant and foolish. After that, you just rant.

Where did the very first living cell come from? So far with all your lengthy posts you still have no answer.
Some folks can't face losing the argument.
 
I for one don't have the mental capacity to understand evolution, therefore I would have to treat it like a religion and accept it on faith.
There are two religions in conflict.

That of the Founders, the Judeo-Christian faith.
The Bible is its foundation.


And that of Democrats, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, Fascists.....Militant Secularism. Lacking self-awareness, the Democrats, Liberals, Progressives ridicule religion as superstition......but kneel to their false religion, Militant Secularism.
From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…


Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion. In Godless, Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us its sacraments (abortion), its holy writ (Roe v. Wade), its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu-Jamal), its clergy (public school teachers), its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free), its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland), and its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident).

Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.



Here we can watch their religious service:

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Let' cut to the chase, and see how much you have learned int this thread.

Is Darwin's theory a "proven fact"?

Of course not. It's a theory.

Is it offered to the public as a "proven fact"?

I don't know. You claim it is, but it's never been presented to me that way


Didn't you say you are religious and believe in God?

Yes.

What do you suppose it the reason that atheist Devil worshipper Karl Marx, and subsequent iterations of communists/socialists advance the false theory explaining life on earth.

They're leftards. What did you expect? :p

BTW.....are there any proven examples of life, other than Petri dish inhabitants, 'evolving' from one species into another?

Other than Petri dish? No, not really. It's a little too early for that.

The fruit fly people claim they've created new species on the basis of inability to cross mate, but I doubt them.
 
Now you have sunk to the level of a liar.

No, I'm a practicing scientist.

I calls em like I sees em.

I provied excellent documentation.

You provided a nice collection of links. Thank you for that.

Unfortunately there are a lot of false claims in them.

l'll take that as a white flag.
Your choice. It would be a mistake though.

I tried to show you how evolution really works. If you're interested you can take it from there. If not... oh well.
 
Science is based on the results of experimentation, the Scientific Method.

Darwin's theory is philosophy: conjecture and concensus based aon an elegant story about the origin of life's variations.

You do quite the tap-dance in order to avoid the truth.



Are there any experiments that document one species changing into another?

"And let us dispose of a common misconception. The complete transmutation of even one animal species into a different species has never been directly observed either in the laboratory or in the field." Dean H. Kenyon (Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University), affidavit presented to the U.S. Supreme Court, No. 85-1513, Brief of Appellants, prepared under the direction of William J. Guste, Jr., Attorney General of the State of Louisiana, October 1985, p. A-16.


"There are no laboratory demonstrations of speciation, millions of fruit flies coming and going while never once suggesting that they were destined to appear as anything other than fruit flies.
More than six thousand years of breeding and artificial selection, barnyard and backyard, have never induced a chicken to lay a square egg or persuade a pig to develop wheels or ball bearings."
Berlinski
Lack of evidence does not constitute invalidation of a theory.

If it did, creationists would be out of business.
 
I don’t understand what point you’re attempting to make. Your first statement that ‘this is how God operates’ is clearly arrogant and foolish. After that, you just rant.

Where did the very first living cell come from? So far with all your lengthy posts you still have no answer.
That's Correct!
And Neither do you!
And Darwin only deals the Evidence for life's subsequent evolution, not abiogenesis.

Which does not logically Justify Your Constant/Fallacious God-of-the-Gaps Fallacy inference.

"We don't know/Know Yet" is the most rational answer.
No need to create a new Fire, Lightening, or Fertility god for what we don't know/know yet.



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There are Two Religions in conflict.

That of the Founders, the Judeo-Christian faith.
The Bible is its foundation. And that of Democrats, Liberals, Communists, Nazis, Fascists.....Militant Secularism. Lacking self-awareness, the Democrats, Liberals, Progressives ridicule religion as superstition......but kneel to their false religion, Militant Secularism.
From the Amazon review of Godless, by Coulter…
No, there are Lying Religious Litteralist Creationcysts like you,
and then there's...
The Science of Evolution has Overwhelming EVIDENCE, while God/s have NUN/NONE.

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Of course not. It's a theory.



I don't know. You claim it is, but it's never been presented to me that way




Yes.



They're leftards. What did you expect? :p



Other than Petri dish? No, not really. It's a little too early for that.

The fruit fly people claim they've created new species on the basis of inability to cross mate, but I doubt them.




















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While not technically a "proven fact" in the strict sense, Darwin's theory of evolution is widely considered a scientific factdue to the overwhelming amount of evidence supporting it across various scientific disciplines, making it the most accepted explanation for the diversity of life on Earth; scientists primarily debate the mechanisms of evolution, not whether evolution itself occurs.

Key points to remember:
  • Evolution as a fact:
    The idea that organisms have changed over time is considered a fact, supported by the fossil record and genetic analysis.

  • Theory of evolution:
    Darwin's theory explains the mechanism behind this change, primarily through natural selection, which is still actively studied and refined.

  • Strong evidence:
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I wonder if Darwin's finches were ground up and the 'bird soup' was chemically analyzed if there would be an 'evolutionary' difference.
 
I wonder if Darwin's finches were ground up and the 'bird soup' was chemically analyzed if there would be an 'evolutionary' difference.
What have I been telling you?

Metal ions, right?

Well, here you go. Hot off the press.

 

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