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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

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Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
 

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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4
 
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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
 

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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.
 
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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
 

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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
Are you going to now claim "police actions" are "formal war declarations" granted from Congress?
 
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Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
Are you going to now claim "police actions" are "formal war declarations" granted from Congress?

No, just noting that Carter granted blanket clemency to draft dodgers.
 

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Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
Are you going to now claim "police actions" are "formal war declarations" granted from Congress?

No, just noting that Carter granted blanket clemency to draft dodgers.
Carter didn't grant a blanket clemency, he offered pardons to draft dodgers. Each individual had to submit a letter to the President requesting the pardon. Do you really think the President has the authority to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants?
 
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Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p
EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.
All federal pardon petitions are addressed to the President, who grants or denies the request. Typically, applications for pardons are referred for review and non-binding recommendation by the Office of the Pardon Attorney, an official of the United States Department of Justice. The percentage of pardons and reprieves granted varies from administration to administration; however, fewer pardons have been granted since World War II.[22]
DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
Are you going to now claim "police actions" are "formal war declarations" granted from Congress?

No, just noting that Carter granted blanket clemency to draft dodgers.
Carter didn't grant a blanket clemency, he offered pardons to draft dodgers. Each individual had to submit a letter to the President requesting the pardon. Do you really think the President has the authority to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants?

Regardless of the details, it speaks to the ability of the president to grant such a pardon. It is not exclusively a role for congress.
 
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Another exceptional use of the pardon power in the 1970's

"It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost...
Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford,
President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed"

It would seem that clemency can be granted in a blanket fashion. And clemency can be granted for offenses that the person has not been yet charged with, so long as it tends to the restoration or maintenance of domestic tranquility. Precedent seems to cover all the bases.
 

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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
It won’t happen at all.
 

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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
Amnesty used in this since isn't granting illegal immigrants amnesty. Congress has full control and authorization regarding immigrants, both legal and illegal. Article I, Section 8, clause 4

Either its a crime or it isn't. Can't have it both ways :p

I'm confused.. Are we talking about pardoning Hilliary or 17 Million illegals. :biggrin:

If it's the illegals --- you cannot sanction an ONGOING crime and he could not make them all "legal". Making them "legal" is different than making "un-deportable".

No blankets are gonna be involved. The crimes must be INDIVIDUAL. Otherwise you are changing the law. So he could START signing 17Million pardons today -- but I doubt he's be past the FIRST million by the time his ass is out of the WH,...
 
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the pardon power for federal crimes is granted to the President of the United States under Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution which states that the President "shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment". The U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted this language to include the power to grant pardons, conditional pardons, commutations of sentence, conditional commutations of sentence, remissions of fines and forfeitures, respites, and amnesties

Pardon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Will be interesting to see if this happens before or after the election. Bucket!
It won’t happen at all.

:eusa_shhh:
 

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EWI is a crime, overstaying your visa isn't, unless you have an order of deportation against you. Only Congress has control over immigration, legal or illegal. All petitions/pardons/amnesties/etc are done as individual requests directly addressed to the President. Read your fucking link.DACA/PACA was done through policy interpretation via USCIS and is being challenged in Federal Court right now to which there has been a halt upon granting new DACA/PACA applicants.

Congress is granted the exclusive power of raising an Army, yes?
Are you going to now claim "police actions" are "formal war declarations" granted from Congress?

No, just noting that Carter granted blanket clemency to draft dodgers.
Carter didn't grant a blanket clemency, he offered pardons to draft dodgers. Each individual had to submit a letter to the President requesting the pardon. Do you really think the President has the authority to grant amnesty to illegal immigrants?

Regardless of the details, it speaks to the ability of the president to grant such a pardon. It is not exclusively a role for congress.
He can not grant such a pardon to illegal immigrants no matter how many ways you want to try to exclaim he can. So far the only thing you have shown is an ignorance of your own link.
 

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Another exceptional use of the pardon power in the 1970's

"It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost...
Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed"

It would seem that clemency can be granted in a blanket fashion. And clemency can be granted for offenses that the person has not been yet charged with, so long as it tends to the restoration or maintenance of domestic tranquility. Precedent seems to cover all the bases.
It doesn't work for illegal immigrants or illegal immigration, sorry, but only Congress has authority over such a matter.
 

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Didnt reagan legalize 5 million? And was congress Republican dominated?
 

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Let me just take a second here to point out that if its only the Dem's that want the mex here, why did a R house and senate and a R pres legalize 5 million?
 

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look up "Simpson-Mazzoli Act"
 

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Didnt reagan legalize 5 million? And was congress Republican dominated?
Reagan signed a bill that legalized illegals, which later totaled about 3.2M. Congress was an R Senate and a D House.

Let me just take a second here to point out that if its only the Dem's that want the mex here, why did a R house and senate and a R pres legalize 5 million?
Not all illegals are Mexican. SMFH The Senate was R and the House was D, Reagan simply signed the bill.

look up "Simpson-Mazzoli Act"
Had you looked it up you would have gotten your 2 previous comments correct verse the mistakes in them you made.
 

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