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That has been how things have gone Bootney. It's time to stop denying it. Jews are white. Schools are not controlled by communists. Whites have controlled all of those things.This all assumes that being white entitles one to the benefits of controllingBlack racism is not a mirror image of white racism. It is not equal and opposite. Instead it is different in scale and kind:
Blacks lack institutional power. They do not, for the most part, control the banks,
the police,
the courts,
the schools,
the hospitals,
the newspapers,
the film industry,
the fashion industry,
the labour market,
the housing market
and on and on. Instead whites do. So much so that their racism affects rates of black unemployment, income, life expectancy, education, segregation and incarceration. Blacks do not even begin to have that kind of power over whites. If wealth is power, as it largely is in America, then whites as a whole are a hundred times more powerful than blacks (that is double what it was before the Great Recession). Even though we had a president who was black, he could not openly help blacks without being accused of racism.
Internalized racism: The racism among blacks is mostly directed against other blacks, especially against one’s self. Blacks are subject to much of the same racist brainwashing as whites, particularly through television and school. According to one test of racism (the IAT), 42% of blacks are racist in favour of whites!
Blacks understand whites way better than whites understand blacks: Because they have to just to feed their families in a society that is mostly white.
Because they read white books, watch white television, receive white educations, work at white companies, etc. They have to deal with whites. Meantime whites can avoid dealing with blacks or having to take them seriously.
This makes it hard for blacks to stereotype and dehumanize whites to a serious degree.
Blacks have not committed serious injustices that require racist whitewashing.
Blacks do not build their sense of self-worth on looking down on whites.
There is nothing like a black n-word for whites.
There is nothing like the black Klan. Some whites think Black Lives Matter is like that, but they have never gone into white neighbourhoods to spread terror and lynch white people.
Blacks do commit hate crimes and so on, but to think black racism is equal and opposite to white racism is to miss the nature of both white racism and black racism. White racism is institutional and cultural and a hundred times more powerful. Black racism is personal and, to a large degree, is a response or reaction to white racism.
the banks, (wrong--it's the Jooooz)
the police,
the courts,
the schools, (it's the fucking commies)
the hospitals,
the newspapers, (commies)
the film industry, (wrong--the Jooooz)
the fashion industry,
the labour market,
the housing market
That privilege is limited to a few (white or otherwise), of different origins (European or otherwise), brought on by too much government power.
The ideals, beliefs, and principles held by Thomas Jefferson are salvation for all. Trust me.
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Jews think of themselves as a minority, not part of the White Majority, and to not feel any kinship or bond that would encourage them to support any White Interests.
Who are you to tell them that the way they identify is not valid?
Do you believe that being Black, makes you a Moral Authority on such issues?
That has been how things have gone Bootney. It's time to stop denying it. Jews are white. Schools are not controlled by communists. Whites have controlled all of those things.This all assumes that being white entitles one to the benefits of controllingBlack racism is not a mirror image of white racism. It is not equal and opposite. Instead it is different in scale and kind:
Blacks lack institutional power. They do not, for the most part, control the banks,
the police,
the courts,
the schools,
the hospitals,
the newspapers,
the film industry,
the fashion industry,
the labour market,
the housing market
and on and on. Instead whites do. So much so that their racism affects rates of black unemployment, income, life expectancy, education, segregation and incarceration. Blacks do not even begin to have that kind of power over whites. If wealth is power, as it largely is in America, then whites as a whole are a hundred times more powerful than blacks (that is double what it was before the Great Recession). Even though we had a president who was black, he could not openly help blacks without being accused of racism.
Internalized racism: The racism among blacks is mostly directed against other blacks, especially against one’s self. Blacks are subject to much of the same racist brainwashing as whites, particularly through television and school. According to one test of racism (the IAT), 42% of blacks are racist in favour of whites!
Blacks understand whites way better than whites understand blacks: Because they have to just to feed their families in a society that is mostly white.
Because they read white books, watch white television, receive white educations, work at white companies, etc. They have to deal with whites. Meantime whites can avoid dealing with blacks or having to take them seriously.
This makes it hard for blacks to stereotype and dehumanize whites to a serious degree.
Blacks have not committed serious injustices that require racist whitewashing.
Blacks do not build their sense of self-worth on looking down on whites.
There is nothing like a black n-word for whites.
There is nothing like the black Klan. Some whites think Black Lives Matter is like that, but they have never gone into white neighbourhoods to spread terror and lynch white people.
Blacks do commit hate crimes and so on, but to think black racism is equal and opposite to white racism is to miss the nature of both white racism and black racism. White racism is institutional and cultural and a hundred times more powerful. Black racism is personal and, to a large degree, is a response or reaction to white racism.
the banks, (wrong--it's the Jooooz)
the police,
the courts,
the schools, (it's the fucking commies)
the hospitals,
the newspapers, (commies)
the film industry, (wrong--the Jooooz)
the fashion industry,
the labour market,
the housing market
That privilege is limited to a few (white or otherwise), of different origins (European or otherwise), brought on by too much government power.
The ideals, beliefs, and principles held by Thomas Jefferson are salvation for all. Trust me.
.
Jews think of themselves as a minority, not part of the White Majority, and to not feel any kinship or bond that would encourage them to support any White Interests.
Who are you to tell them that the way they identify is not valid?
Do you believe that being Black, makes you a Moral Authority on such issues?
So the approximately 7.5 million Jews in America should not be counted as white in the census, even though many have white European ancestry?
I happen to know some who would be offended by that thought, and also offended at being told that they are not vested in "white interests"......whatever that entails.
So, you want me to believe that these guys are offended at being told they are not invested in "white interests" in the same sentence you imply that whites don't have interests?
Ask them if they believe that whites as a group have interests. I bet they say no, or reply is such a way to show that they interpret any white interests as some expression of white supremacy.
Hell, then ask them if they identify as part of the majority white ethnic group.
This is not a debate tactic to blow off your point, I seriously want you to ask them and to get back to us.
Who is "US"? I don't make a habit of addressing more than one person at a time.
Speaking from information that is readily available, to anyone, the majority of Jewish Americans identify as white. They are not counted as a separate racial category on the census.
Can Jews Still Assume They're White? (From 2016)
Trump's election has reopened questions that have long seemed settled in America—including the acceptability of open discrimination against minority groups.
www.theatlantic.com
When jews fled Nazi Germany, they arrived in America as "European immigrant white people" and became citizens of this country with rights that other minorities who were here first were still fighting to obtain.
The fact that they were victimized and discriminated against by other whites in America is what drove them to develop and support their own communities.
And to escape that treatment, some even changed their last names to enable them to avoid such treatment, by other whites.
As far as them not being concerned with "white interests", exactly what entails "white interests" has yet to be described in a detailed and comprehensive manner that I have seen in any thread in this forum.
However, for the larger percentage of jews in America who identify as white, it makes sense that if they do, they would be offended by being told that they don't consider themselves white, simply because other whites believe they are not.