Bitter Conservatism Is Ruining Men

[Marener]

You add nothing to any conversation.

Just disabusing your idea that men can do whatever they want anytime they want.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Basically the Washington Post has an article saying the INCEL population is growing and deadbeat men suffering self-victimization is growing. This is all happening in conjunction with the growth of MAGA and what i will call "Bitter Conservatism". Conservatives that are bitter and angry at everyone and everything. No one wants to date them, marry them, hire them, live with them, or associate with them and that is causing them to become disconnected basement dwellers at their parents (bold below). That's according to the Washington Post.

Conservatives are lonely according to multiple studies and who can blame women and the rest of us for not associating?

Conservative men... what's up?

WAPO: Why young and old men are leaving the labor force at record rates

The share of American men in the labor force reached a record low this spring, fueled by baby-boomer retirees and young men who are dropping out to study or because they are disabled or sick. (The only time it has been lower was during the first two months of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020.)

“It’s not all retirement and education. … There are guys just dropping off the planet. They’re not looking after their kids. They’re not in school. They’re not in the labor force,” said Betsey Stevenson, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan. “Across the board when we look at men, we see challenges that they face that leave too many men disconnected.”

Men who are out of the workforce are increasingly likely to have never married and to live with their parents, a Washington Post analysis of Current Population Survey data found.

WAPO? I see you've discovered humor...conservatives have always been "bitter" toward liberalism, they just can't be silenced by it any longer so it only seems like its something new.

 

[martybegan]

Just disabusing your idea that men can do whatever they want anytime they want.

Argumentum ad absurdum.

 

[Marener]

Argumentum ad absurdum.

Sorry, both sexes have biological clocks. Don't pretend otherwise.

I think women are more than aware of what happens to fertility as they get older. What's funny is that conservatives spent so much time telling people to wait to have kids so that they aren't dependent on the government for assistance, but now that's blowing up in their faces because people waited TOO LONG.

 

[martybegan]

Sorry, both sexes have biological clocks. Don't pretend otherwise.

I think women are more than aware of what happens to fertility as they get older. What's funny is that conservatives spent so much time telling people to wait to have kids so that they aren't dependent on the government for assistance, but now that's blowing up in their faces because people waited TOO LONG.

One is a lot longer, and less final.

Women wait too long because the AWFLs lie to them and tell them they can have everything.

 

[Hafar1014]

One is a lot longer, and less final.

Women wait too long because the AWFLs lie to them and tell them they can have everything.

Men age like wine women age like fruit

 

[Marener]

One is a lot longer, and less final.

Women wait too long because the AWFLs lie to them and tell them they can have everything.

They're waiting too long because they've been told they need to be financially secure before having kids.

Here's Fox News complaining that teenagers aren't having babies anymore. Way to go.

 

[MarcATL]

Basically the Washington Post has an article saying the INCEL population is growing and deadbeat men suffering self-victimization is growing. This is all happening in conjunction with the growth of MAGA and what i will call "Bitter Conservatism". Conservatives that are bitter and angry at everyone and everything. No one wants to date them, marry them, hire them, live with them, or associate with them and that is causing them to become disconnected basement dwellers at their parents (bold below). That's according to the Washington Post.

Conservatives are lonely according to multiple studies and who can blame women and the rest of us for not associating?

Conservative men... what's up?

WAPO: Why young and old men are leaving the labor force at record rates

The share of American men in the labor force reached a record low this spring, fueled by baby-boomer retirees and young men who are dropping out to study or because they are disabled or sick. (The only time it has been lower was during the first two months of the coronavirus pandemic in 2020.)

“It’s not all retirement and education. … There are guys just dropping off the planet. They’re not looking after their kids. They’re not in school. They’re not in the labor force,” said Betsey Stevenson, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan. “Across the board when we look at men, we see challenges that they face that leave too many men disconnected.”

Men who are out of the workforce are increasingly likely to have never married and to live with their parents, a Washington Post analysis of Current Population Survey data found.

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That's right OP, conservatism is ruining individual lives, our country, and the world at large OP

 

[Marener]

it's nihilism combined with the Orwellian concept that if the hivemind believes something is reality, then it is reality.

MAGA is founded on the idea that if they believe something, it's true.

That and you can never, ever admit anything otherwise.

 

[martybegan]

They're waiting too long because they've been told they need to be financially secure before having kids.

Here's Fox News complaining that teenagers aren't having babies anymore. Way to go.

One reason does not exclude the other.

 

[martybegan]

MAGA is founded on the idea that if they believe something, it's true.

That and you can never, ever admit anything otherwise.

Nope.

your side is the one that thinks women can have penises.

 

[Marener]

One reason does not exclude the other.

Decades of conservative indoctrination is going to have unintended consequences.

You told people not to have kids until they're financially stable, then you turned the economy into a shitshow.

And the best you could come up with is blaming feminism.

 

[martybegan]

Decades of conservative indoctrination is going to have unintended consequences.

You told people not to have kids until they're financially stable, then you turned the economy into a shitshow.

And the best you could come up with is blaming feminism.

Who "told" people that?

Feminism went from "women can do what they want" to "all women should do what a small set of women want"

 

[Marener]

Nope.

your side is the one that thinks women can have penises.

Your side thinks Obama was born in Kenya and that's just a start on the extremely long list of examples of where MAGA comes from.

Between us, you're the only one obsessed with knowing about other people's genitals.

 

[martybegan]

Your side thinks Obama was born in Kenya and that's just a start on the extremely long list of examples of where MAGA comes from.

Between us, you're the only one obsessed with knowing about other people's genitals.

LOL, whataboutism, your main tool, followed by deflection, your backup plan.

 

[Marener]

Who "told" people that?

You can start all the way back with Rick Santorum as a prominent example.

Feminism went from "women can do what they want" to "all women should do what a small set of women want"

Nope.

Feminism is still women can do what they want".

 

[Marener]

LOL, whataboutism, your main tool, followed by deflection, your backup plan.

"Deflection" is your constant return to transgender people.

MAGA is founded on believing whatever you want.

Start with Obama is a secret Kenyan muslim.
The ACA had death panels.
Trump said that the real unemployment rate was like 30% in 2016.
The DNC emails weren't hacked by Russia.
Comey was a secret Democrat trying to stop Trump's election.
Michael Flynn was innocent.
COVID was a hoax.
Vaccines don't work.
Unemployment numbers are fake.
GDP numbers are fake.
2020 election was stolen.
January 6th was instigated by the Feds.
Trump's classified military documents are actually personal records.
Iran has undergone regime change.

We have new examples EVERY SINGLE DAY.

And all you can do is talk about genitals.

 

[citygator]

You just responded in bad faith.

YOu are an asshole.

Your post was a bad faith patronizing POS post about how easy women have it and how hard poor men are struggling (sniffle sniffle). I am a guy doing just fine and Ive never seen a guy discriminated against "because" he was a guy. Mostly shit employee men think they deserve more than any woman who got an opportunity. LOL. Then they come here and post about women being underserving. Keep it up.

 

[citygator]

Millions are leaving red states to move to blue states. Thats all you have to know

Millions of Americans are leaving "blue" (Democratic-led) states for "red" (Republican-led) states, driven by high living costs, taxes, and a desire for better affordability, with major outflows from California, New York, and Illinois to states like Texas, Florida, and Tennessee. This, often called the "Blue State Exodus," involves millions in population shifts over recent years, impacting congressional representation and moving toward a potential 2030 realignment.
The Heritage Foundation +4
Key Migration Trends (as of 2024-2026 data):

• Top Departing States: California, New York, Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts.
• Top Destination States: Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee, and Arizona.
• Scale of Migration: From July 2024 to July 2025, the five top blue states saw a combined net loss of 477,000 residents. From 1990 to 2021, over 13 million people left these five states for red-leaning states.
• Recent Data (2024-2025):California continued to lead with the highest net loss, followed by New York and Illinois.
  The Heritage Foundation +3

Primary Drivers for Leaving:

• Affordability & Housing: High cost of living, particularly housing, is the top driver, with residents leaving expensive coastal cities for more affordable areas.
• Taxes:High state and local tax burdens in blue states encourage moves, according to analyses.
  The Center Square +1
• Quality of Life:Concerns over crime, pandemic-era policies, and a desire for, as some analysts suggest, a "different" social atmosphere.
  The Heritage Foundation +3
• Business Climate:Perceived unfavorable business climates in high-tax states push businesses and jobs away, notes.
  Instagram·New York Times Opinion +1

Political and Economic Consequences:

• Congressional Representation: The migration is shifting political power; southern red states are projected to gain 19 House seats by 2030, while northeastern blue states could lose 11 seats, predicts the Brennan Center.
• Wealth Transfer:The trend has led to a significant transfer of wealth and capital from liberal-leaning states to conservative ones, according to some reports.
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• Shifting Cities:Even with the "exodus," urban areas like New York and Chicago continue to face high demand, but many urbanites are relocating to lower-cost regions like Tennessee.
  New York Post +1
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  The Heritage Foundation
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You guys are funny. Here is the deal. People are making ALL THE MONEY in blue cities and states and the MOVING TO SHITHOLE states because the cost of living is lower. The fact is you cant make money in those shithole states... because they are shitholes. Alabama shore towns are nice, on the water, but you cant make money there. You can only spend it. So, you make a shitload of money is a great city like LA or NYC or Chicago, then you move to a shithole shoreline to spend it. Its not rocket science.

 

[22lcidw]

Sorry, both sexes have biological clocks. Don't pretend otherwise.

I think women are more than aware of what happens to fertility as they get older. What's funny is that conservatives spent so much time telling people to wait to have kids so that they aren't dependent on the government for assistance, but now that's blowing up in their faces because people waited TOO LONG.

There are many reasons we have gotten to this point. You destroyed homemakers and made it look like slavery. Yes, it still exists. Just not at the numbers needed to keep taxation lower. The costs to raise children is massive compared to the past and many women work and give up their money to put them into preschool or other entities or get government to pay for it. Telling people what to do is not the point. Taxpayers subsidizing a growing number of things is.