Birthright Citizenship? Yes/No

[Rawley]

That is why they will do nothing. They will not create a new precedent on old text.

Why not?

 

[Rawley]

Children of foreign diplomats do not qualify, as far as I am aware. I believe Native American tribal members are basically born with dual citizenship. Neither of these are considered illegal aliens.

Gee, not as clear cut as as you thought, huh?

 

[Concerned American]

Indians were born here and living here. Children of diplomats were born here and living here.

The pertinent word here would be LEGALLY. Native Americans were here LEGALLY, Former Slaves were here LEGALLY. They broke no laws. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are NOT here LEGALLY. They broke the law and should not benefit from their ILLEGAL actions. The 14th was not put in place to address a foreign invasion of people attempting to circumvent our immigration policies. This isn't rocket science and the people who are trying to twist the 14th into something it was never intended to be are totally off base.

 

[Chuz Life]

The pertinent word here would be LEGALLY. Native Americans were here LEGALLY, Former Slaves were here LEGALLY. They broke no laws. ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS are NOT here LEGALLY. They broke the law and should not benefit from their ILLEGAL actions. The 14th was not put in place to address a foreign invasion of people attempting to circumvent our immigration policies. This isn't rocket science and the people who are trying to twist the 14th into something it was never intended to be are totally off base.

You made this point so much better than I did.

Thanks!

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Oct 1, 2025

Birthright Citizenship is not (and should not be) an entitlement or enticement for anyone to try to birth their children in the U.S., through criminal means.

I can't decipher the rest of the OP.

• Chuz Life

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Edit to add: If Trump's legal team does not present this line of argument, they will deserve the loss that the SCOTUS will leave them with.

I wouldn't count on or expect this SCOTUS to make such a realization on their own!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why not?

Nobody likes change. They prefer the status quo.

 

[Leo123]

I just have my normal, conservative, ingrained, unconditional belief in the Constitution, and that includes the 14th Amendment.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

We settled this back in 1867, as part of the supreme law of the land.

They didn't anticipate a treasonous POTUS (Biden) who invited illegal aliens to falsely claim asylum and refused to guard our border. The birth right law was for LEGAL immigrants coming in through legal check points.

 

[Rawley]

Nobody likes change. They prefer the status quo.

Plessy was the law for 75 years,

 

[White 6]

They didn't anticipate a treasonous POTUS (Biden) who invited illegal aliens to falsely claim asylum and refused to guard our border. The birth right law was for LEGAL immigrants coming in through legal check points.

Treasonous, my ass. Foolish and misguided? Definitely.

Nope. Read the 14th Amendment. It does not mention, what you say, or even hint at it.

 

[Concerned American]

Treasonous, my ass. Foolish and misguided? Definitely.

Nope. Read the 14th Amendment. It does not mention, what you say, or even hint at it.

To disregard the reason that the 14th was enacted is as disingenuous as saying Biden did not commit a treasonous act when he told the world to surge our borders--in effect calling for a foreign invasion. That is treason.

 

[Moonglow]

To disregard the reason that the 14th was enacted is as disingenuous as saying Biden did not commit a treasonous act when he told the world to surge our borders--in effect calling for a foreign invasion. That is treason.

Then you have no idea what treason is.

 

[White 6]

To disregard the reason that the 14th was enacted is as disingenuous as saying Biden did not commit a treasonous act when he told the world to surge our borders--in effect calling for a foreign invasion. That is treason.

Not according to the decidedly conservative Supreme court.

 

[Concerned American]

Not according to the decidedly conservative Supreme court.

Or so you hope. Your crystal ball is no more accurate than anyone else's.

 

[Leo123]

Treasonous, my ass. Foolish and misguided? Definitely.

Nope. Read the 14th Amendment. It does not mention, what you say, or even hint at it.

I was posting about Biden's neglect of constitutional duty. Which is an impeachable offense. Also, since failure to secure the border was done in a way that privileges illegals over citizens and privileges Democrats. Biden systematically refused to act which is also an impeachable offense.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They didn't anticipate a treasonous POTUS (Biden) who invited illegal aliens to falsely claim asylum and refused to guard our border. The birth right law was for LEGAL immigrants coming in through legal check points.

No it wasn't. There were no such thing as illegal aliens in the 1860s.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was posting about Biden's neglect of constitutional duty. Which is an impeachable offense. Also, since failure to secure the border was done in a way that privileges illegals over citizens and privileges Democrats. Biden systematically refused to act which is also an impeachable offense.

So, you want to impeach him now that he is out of office? You really want to go there?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Plessy was the law for 75 years,

Plessy was based on no constitutional law in effect at the time and that is why it was overturned.

 

[Mac-7]

You can't legally deport a US citizen, but generally speaking the parents decide where their minor children will live.

So you support breaking up illegal alien families ?

Separating minor children from their parents?

Yes or no?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you support breaking up illegal alien families ?

Separating minor children from their parents?

Yes or no?

That is what happens! Don't want to be separated? Don't cross the border illegally!

 

[Mac-7]

That is what happens! Don't want to be separated? Don't cross the border illegally!

Are you speaking for your tag team partner who seems to have vanished?

 

[Unkotare]

So you support breaking up illegal alien families ?

Separating minor children from their parents?

Yes or no?

That would be up to the parents, in the event of their order of deportation.