Bill Would Force Obama To Reveal Birth Documents

[nodoginnafight]

It has?

Of course it has - repeatedly. Why keep pushing an issue if you aren't even trying to keep up with the issue.

It's a done deal.

But the coconut foot imprint - NOW THERE'S your REAL line of attack .....

 

[Jay Canuck]

 

[rightwinger]

Keep up the good work Pale Rider....America needs you and people like you

We can't let Obama get away with this! He is laughing at you right now. You need to storm your local republican campaign headquarters and insist that the Obama birth certificate becomes the central plank of the republican platform.

We need a birther as our next republican candidate for president. That will bring Obama to his knees!

 

[Ringel05]

I agree - but nutjobs are not going to suddenly wake up and say, "gee, ya know - I've been talking idiocy." They are just going to keep trying to convince others of the legitimacy of their pyschosis - they;ve sort of dug themselves into that hole and now the rest of us get to chuckle as they squirm around down there.

Psychological studies have actually been done on this phenomenon. Essentially people who participate in these conspiracy theories want to be part of the group that "has the correct explanation", i.e. they want to feel that they and their beliefs are relevant. It gives them a sense of empowerment.

And this liberal, obamabot ass kissing club TURD you just laid in here is proof of where obama was born? Oh... no... it's just more SHIT from the OBAMA ASS KISSING CLUB.

Try proving where he was born muttonhead.

Try explaining WHY obama is HIDING his birth certificate.

As I stated (but was not quoted in the post you replied to) I am NOT a fan of Obama and I actually hope he fails at everything he is trying to accomplish.
My reasoning is I have had numerous conversations with numerous persons about Obama and his political leanings. At least one third of those I have talked to are committed Socialist Democrats and based on Obama's writings they voted for him because they believe he is a Socialist Democrat also.
That doesn't change the fact that the requirements for this office has been legally satisfied by Obama or he would not be in office.

BTW are you retired from the 474th or still active?

 

[Cold Fusion38]

The louder the "birthers" yell the more ridiculous they appear. I mean even if you totally discount the BC issue those people look like total morons. With their signs and bumperstickers on their foreheads they are just white trash idiots.

 

[Missourian]

So if it doesn't concern you, why ridicule people who are only asking that Obama release his records?

Because he has - it has all been verified by non-partisans and all the appropriate authorities. People who do stupid things get ridiculed - it happens.

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If Obama has nothing to hide, there is no reason to withhold it.

An AOL online poll on July 25, 2009 showed 81% of the 66,000 respondants wanted to see the long form for themselves.

AOL poll: 81% want Obama to release it

 

[nodoginnafight]

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If they have an internet connection they can see it. This is a done deal and it has been a done deal for months.
The fact that YOU cannot accept the answer you got - doesn't mean an answer has not been provided.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Obama could PERSONALLY show every "birther" his BC and they would not be satisfied. This is a non-issue and if you Right-Wing fringe element want to keep screaming about it you will see big loses in 2010.

 

[Missourian]

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If they have an internet connection they can see it. This is a done deal and it has been a done deal for months.
The fact that YOU cannot accept the answer you got - doesn't mean an answer has not been provided.

You are making an assumtion that I am convinced Obama was not born in Hawaii.

My question has nothing to do with where Obama was born.

My question is "Why doesn't Obama simply release his long form birth certificate?".

And when a large block of American Citizens are asking the same question, the transparency administration of Barack Obama should sit up and take notice.

But instead they spend millions to block release of the document.

My question is why?

 

[nodoginnafight]

You are making an assumtion that I am convinced Obama was not born in Hawaii. My question has nothing to do with where Obama was born. My question is "Why doesn't Obama simply release his long form birth certificate?". And when a large block of American Citizens are asking the same question, the transparency administration of Barack Obama should sit up and take notice. But instead they spend millions to block release of the document. My question is why?

Why SHOULD he produce it? To what purpose? To show that he will bend over backwards to appease any nutjob that comes along asking for documentation of this or that?

Absurd.

He has produced what was required and it has been verified and attested to. But THAT didn't stop these nutjobs, now did it? Why should he assume that producing the pink polka-dot form with the bird of paradise watermark and the coconut foot imprint would appease them?
It won't. So why waste another minute on this idiocy?

Idiots will be idiots - why should a POTUS allow himself to get sucked into their silly games?

 

[Emma]

Bill Would Force Obama To Reveal Birth Documents​

State senator: 'Why wouldn't they be available to the public?'

Posted: August 07, 2009
12:30 am Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

Hawaii state Sen. Will Espero, a Democrat, has confirmed plans to introduce legislation through which the state's lawmakers would force the public disclosure of all President Obama's birth documents held by the Hawaii Department of Health, including President Obama’s long-form original birth certificate.

Espero told WND his bill is aimed at "giving citizens access to birth records" under a standard of government transparency which would permit journalists to request in writing the public disclosure of vital birth records including long-form birth certificates of all persons born in Hawaii. He said it would include the release of birth records on those previously born in Hawaii.

"My decision to file the legislation was primarily a result of the fuss over President Obama's birth records and the lingering questions," Espero said.

Espero told WND that he believes President Obama was born in Hawaii.

"My motivation is strictly to promote transparency," he said. "When I found out that Hawaii birth records were not available to the public my first thought was, 'Why wouldn't they be available to the public?'

"As far as I am concerned, records regarding whether a person was born here or not should be in the public domain," he said.

Asked specifically about Obama's birth records, including the original long-form birth certificate, Espero said, "Whatever birth records regarding President Obama that the Hawaii Department has on file should be made public."

Story continues here...

A state senator passing a bill to trump federal law (HIPAA)?

Good luck with that.

BTW, if Jerome Corsi says it, it's most likely distorted.

The birthers already believe that the State of Hawaii is in on the conspiracy. What makes anyone think that this would shut them up?

 

[Emma]

So if it doesn't concern you, why ridicule people who are only asking that Obama release his records?

Because he has - it has all been verified by non-partisans and all the appropriate authorities. People who do stupid things get ridiculed - it happens.

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If Obama has nothing to hide, there is no reason to withhold it.

An AOL online poll on July 25, 2009 showed 81% of the 66,000 respondants wanted to see the long form for themselves.

AOL poll: 81% want Obama to release it

An online poll.

Seriously?

 

[nodoginnafight]

the birthers already believe that the state of hawaii is in on the conspiracy. What makes anyone think that this would shut them up?

exactly!!!!

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If they have an internet connection they can see it. This is a done deal and it has been a done deal for months.
The fact that YOU cannot accept the answer you got - doesn't mean an answer has not been provided.

Hey in the other thread, you know the one you call me a right winger, you couldn't accept a truthful answer so


Oh and go back and read my earlier "right wing" posts in this thread you assumption master

 

[nodoginnafight]

Hey in the other thread, you know the one you call me a right winger, you couldn't accept a truthful answer so


Oh and go back and read my earlier "right wing" posts in this thread you assumption master

You quoted one of my posts before you wrote the above. I never called you (or anyone) a "right-winger." You are mistaken.

 

[Missourian]

Because he has - it has all been verified by non-partisans and all the appropriate authorities. People who do stupid things get ridiculed - it happens.

I disagree, it is a matter of public interest for the American people to see the documentation for themselves.

If Obama has nothing to hide, there is no reason to withhold it.

An AOL online poll on July 25, 2009 showed 81% of the 66,000 respondants wanted to see the long form for themselves.

AOL poll: 81% want Obama to release it

An online poll.

Seriously?

And I quoted it as such, just to quell any accusation that I was trying to pass it off as a scientific poll.

EDIT- Judging from what I've seen, the Anti-birthers are as fanatical as the Birthers, so 81% seems high even for an online poll.

 

[Emma]

Well, again PP, you're ill informed. The newspaper ads were nothing more than notices that a certification of live birth had been ISSUED. They did not say what hospital he was born in, and they even got his address wrong. They prove nothing. They're worthless. He still could have been born in Kenya, had been issued the COLB, and those notices would still have been printed. Put it all together and you still have NOTHING.

Except those notices came from the Dept of Health.
The Hawaiian Dept of Health does not issue Kenyan Certificates of Live Birth.

No, they didn't. The NEWSPAPER did a daily check of COLB's that had been issued and printed a notice. The DofH had nothing whatsoever to do with the notices being printed in the paper.

I said nothing about a Kenyan COLB.

Posted on another thread:

Yellow pages in Kenya? Are you that desperate for attention?

All it takes is Ann phoning her relatives in Hawaii, maybe the guy who served in the US Army and liberated Auschwitz, and say, "You're a (fill in the blank relative)! I'm naming him Barack!"

And then the relatives call the newspapers.

Wait, or are you saying the relatives in Hawaii didn't have phones? Or were they too traumatized from the memory of liberating Auschwitz to phone it in?

One problem with your theory.

Those announcements came from information received by the Hawaii DOH.

Prove that.

look at the top of the image "Health Bureau Statistics"

And...

Such vital statistics, however, were not sent to the newspapers by the general public but by the Health Department, which received the information directly from hospitals, Okubo said.

Birth announcements from the public ran elsewhere in both papers and usually included information such as the newborn's name, weight and time of birth.

www.HonoluluAdvertiser.com | Printer-friendly article page

 

[Emma]

I guess we'll see. If Hawaii says the new law will force obama to release the real deal, then obama will have to release the real deal.

Doesn't that come perilously close to violating this?

LII: Constitution (section 10)

 

[nodoginnafight]

the new law will force obama to release the real deal,

OHHHHHH GOOOOODY GOOOOODY, you mean the pink polka dot form with the bird of paradise watermark and the coconut foot imprint????????
ewwwwww, I hear it is soooooooo pretty.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

You quoted one of my posts before you wrote the above. I never called you (or anyone) a "right-winger." You are mistaken.

I am mistaken you called me a zealot, my bad.

well someone obviously has a dog in this fight......do I have to do the math out in a post for you?

Nope - no dog in this fight - I'm glad to see things on the upswing - but I've always said a POTUS gets more credit than they deserve when things are going well economically and POTUS always gets more blame than they deserve when the economy tanks. I believe there are bigger factors at work.

I just always find it amusing when the hyper-zealots try to spin things to suit their own very narrow objectives.

I'm sorry if it offends you when I refuse to swallow your spin - but I'm not going to pretend you make a valid point just so you don't get your panties in a twist.

Like it or not, the economy is on the rebound and if that means you are losing a spin-point, that's just your tough luck.

OIC - EVERYONE ELSE is using the wrong math - YOU - and YOU ALONE - have the "correct" math.
Too funny.
Doesn't it suck when everyone else knows your wrong, but you're just too much of a zealot to admit it??????

If anyone wants to see the full contect just click the little right arrow symbol next to his name in my quotes