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You know, Joey, I'm finding your logic to be interesting....
You've backed the riots over Breonna Taylor's shooting, but maybe I should point out a few facts....
Taylor was involved with drug dealers, a search warrant for her apartment was issued by a judge and carried out in a legal manner, and Taylor's boyfriend shot at the cops...
According to your logic in this thread, the cops had a right to return fire, and it's just unfortunate that Taylor was in the line of fire, and was killed....
Wrong.hey most certianly did overreach as nothing he was doing was illegal.
Even if it hads been the raid was not justified.
There were no modified guns found and no he was not malesting children he was legallty married to her.
The Agents fired first whhich they are not permitted to do when serving a warrant making it self defense
Dude, learn how to spell.
Second, he couldn't be "legally married" to the 11 year old, because he was already legally married to someone else. And she was 11.
Koresh knew they were ATF agents and was unarmed waiting to meet them and peacefully cooperate when they approached.You know, Joey, I'm finding your logic to be interesting....
You've backed the riots over Breonna Taylor's shooting, but maybe I should point out a few facts....
Taylor was involved with drug dealers, a search warrant for her apartment was issued by a judge and carried out in a legal manner, and Taylor's boyfriend shot at the cops...
According to your logic in this thread, the cops had a right to return fire, and it's just unfortunate that Taylor was in the line of fire, and was killed....
Except the person they were looking for didn't live there, and they didn't announce themselves, and there weren't any drugs in the apartment.
MEANWHILE.
Koresh knew those people outside were ATF Agents.
They knew they had a legal warrant
They had illegally modified guns.
Oh, yeah, and while Ms. Taylor was an EMT who was serving her community, Koresh was a dirty-stinking child molesting piece of shit who was scamming the welfare agencies with his progeny of little baby messiahs.
What about this girl who said he molested her?Wrong.hey most certianly did overreach as nothing he was doing was illegal.
Even if it hads been the raid was not justified.
There were no modified guns found and no he was not malesting children he was legallty married to her.
The Agents fired first whhich they are not permitted to do when serving a warrant making it self defense
Dude, learn how to spell.
Second, he couldn't be "legally married" to the 11 year old, because he was already legally married to someone else. And she was 11.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
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Highly unreliable and heard after the fact when the ATF and government in general were desperately trying to spin the story.What about this girl who said he molested her?Wrong.hey most certianly did overreach as nothing he was doing was illegal.
Even if it hads been the raid was not justified.
There were no modified guns found and no he was not malesting children he was legallty married to her.
The Agents fired first whhich they are not permitted to do when serving a warrant making it self defense
Dude, learn how to spell.
Second, he couldn't be "legally married" to the 11 year old, because he was already legally married to someone else. And she was 11.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
GIRL TELLS OF MOLESTATION BY KORESH
I don't believe that. She was only about 14 when she testified. And backing her claims is that her father had to rescue her from those freaks. And she wasn't the only kid asserting abuse.Highly unreliable and heard after the fact when the ATF and government in general were desperately trying to spin the story.What about this girl who said he molested her?Wrong.hey most certianly did overreach as nothing he was doing was illegal.
Even if it hads been the raid was not justified.
There were no modified guns found and no he was not malesting children he was legallty married to her.
The Agents fired first whhich they are not permitted to do when serving a warrant making it self defense
Dude, learn how to spell.
Second, he couldn't be "legally married" to the 11 year old, because he was already legally married to someone else. And she was 11.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
GIRL TELLS OF MOLESTATION BY KORESH
Wrong.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
Koresh knew they were ATF agents and was unarmed waiting to meet them and peacefully cooperate when they approached.
They did NOT have illegal weapons,
You are ignorant, a racist and a hypocrite
False.Wrong.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
Age of consent is 17 in Texas. You can get married at 14 but only with your parent's permission. Which is kind of pointless, since he started fucking her when she was 11 and was already married to someone else. (The girl's older sister, as it turns out, which makes it even more perverse.)
Koresh knew they were ATF agents and was unarmed waiting to meet them and peacefully cooperate when they approached.
They did NOT have illegal weapons,
You are ignorant, a racist and a hypocrite
Yes, he knew they were ATF Agents. That's when you tell all your cultist buddies to put down their guns and cooperate.
False.
He legallyu wed her making his relationshipopt with herlegal your claims are fallacies. Even if he were molesting kids it is not a federal crime and they have no jurisdiction.
Once aghain they were cooperating until the ATF opened fire
False.
He legallyu wed her making his relationshipopt with herlegal your claims are fallacies. Even if he were molesting kids it is not a federal crime and they have no jurisdiction.
Once aghain they were cooperating until the ATF opened fire
You can't legally marry an 11 year old . You can't legally marry someone when you are already married to someone else.
They fired on the ATF. But even if they ATF did fire first, they still had an obligation to turn themselves in afterwards.
Wrong.
It was legal in Texas for him to marry her with her parents permission that fact was well established by Texas state authorities who knew about the arrangement long before the raid it is just that simple.
Yes they did have an obligation to turn themselves in after the initial ATF raid but they were attacked and had every right to defend themselves and the initital raid was unjustified.
Actuallyu they were.Wrong.
It was legal in Texas for him to marry her with her parents permission that fact was well established by Texas state authorities who knew about the arrangement long before the raid it is just that simple.
Um. No. In fact, when she hit 15, Koresh arranged a sham marriage for her to a guy named Thibedeau, (one of the few survivors of the raid, which shows why it's important to double tap) and then kept fucking her trying to make more babies.
We could also talk about how Koresh was cheating the welfare agencies with his baby messiahs, but let's not go there.
Yes they did have an obligation to turn themselves in after the initial ATF raid but they were attacked and had every right to defend themselves and the initital raid was unjustified.
Actually, they really didn't.. but let's pretend they did.
After the initial raid, there was a legal warrant for their arrests, but they refused to come out and eventually committed mass suicide.
Actuallyu they were.
They did not resist until the ATF started firing Koresh was unarmed and the first one shot.
Yes they should have surrendered affter the ATF withdrew and the mass suicide is on them but the ATF was murderous and unjustified in their actions.
No ATF agent was murdered but the davidians were in the raid.
No matter how much you spin it the texas authorities knew of his marriage to a minor and IT WAS LEGAL
You simply ignore facts they knew what he was doing and it was legal under Texas state law.Actuallyu they were.
They did not resist until the ATF started firing Koresh was unarmed and the first one shot.
Yes they should have surrendered affter the ATF withdrew and the mass suicide is on them but the ATF was murderous and unjustified in their actions.
No ATF agent was murdered but the davidians were in the raid.
Actually, four ATF agents died. And six Cultists.
No matter how much you spin it the texas authorities knew of his marriage to a minor and IT WAS LEGAL
No, something doesn't become "legal" because law enforcement refused to do it's job. He was molesting a kid trying to father a race of messiahs... it was some truly sick shit.
You simply ignore facts they knew what he was doing and it was legal under Texas state law.
It is also legal under federal law which has no sgtatute against it. It is a state matter which the federal government has no jurisdiction over.
They were not sellliong illegal guns.You simply ignore facts they knew what he was doing and it was legal under Texas state law.
Except it wasn't.
It is also legal under federal law which has no sgtatute against it. It is a state matter which the federal government has no jurisdiction over.
No, they were there because they were selling illegal guns... the child molestation was just to emphasize they were dealing with dangerous nuts.
What about this girl who said he molested her?Wrong.hey most certianly did overreach as nothing he was doing was illegal.
Even if it hads been the raid was not justified.
There were no modified guns found and no he was not malesting children he was legallty married to her.
The Agents fired first whhich they are not permitted to do when serving a warrant making it self defense
Dude, learn how to spell.
Second, he couldn't be "legally married" to the 11 year old, because he was already legally married to someone else. And she was 11.
TExas state law permitted it at the time and you should learn to read.
GIRL TELLS OF MOLESTATION BY KORESH
Actually, four ATF agents died.
You peacefully arrest koresh when he was alone, walking into town..versus a violent assault in a fortified compound with innocent children on hand...
Criminals legitimately killed in self-defense, by the victims that they were attempting to murder.
As always, you can be counted on to take the side of subhuman criminal pieces of shit.
Not at all to even hint that the Branch Davidians were perfect saints, in this case, but there is no honest way to spin this as a blatant, serious sequence o criminality on the part of government agents, culminating in a mass murder.
Every last government piece of shit who had any part in this deserves to die.
ATF Agents are pieces of shit?
I think the government did a lot of things wrong, and the leaders of the ATF and FBI were removed from their positions by Bill Clinton.
