Biden's Failing Afghanistan Withdrawl

[protectionist]

Biden promised to end the "forever war" in Afghanistan but, meanwhile, Biden bombs Syria.
"the Biden administration has bombed Iran-backed militias in Iraq and Syria more times in the last three months than the Trump administration did in all of 2020."

Opinion | Biden Wants to Leave the Middle East, But He’s in a Vicious Bombing Cycle in Iraq

Caught between aggressive Tehran-backed militias and a skeptical Congress, the administration needs a better approach.

www.politico.com

So, looks like we're just exchanging one war for another war....

Biden (or whoever is pulling his strings) doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

 

[pknopp]

Maybe you've never read the Koran. Or the 1400 year history of Muslim imperialism.

I've read the Bible and there is no justification for what we do in it.

 

[protectionist]

I've read the Bible and there is no justification for what we do in it.

So you don't believe in self-defense ?

 

[pknopp]

So you don't believe in self-defense ?

Yeah, that's why 9-11 happened. We were warned over and over to quit messing with them.

 

[Colin norris]

Yeah, the thousands of lives, limbs and minds, the trillions of dollars, all wasted on Bush's wars should be ignored so we can focus on what was inevitable from the very beginning.

Absolutely. Now they idiots blame Biden for bringing them home.
This nuts have been waiting for 2000 years. Let them annihilate themselves. Who cares.

 

[protectionist]

Yeah, that's why 9-11 happened. We were warned over and over to quit messing with them.

Don't you know that they are world supremacist ? They will not accept anything less that 100% world dominaiton of Islam. Read the Koran.

 

[surada]

This isn't mentioning the 2 main reason for US presence.
1. Stopping al Qaeda from having bomb-making schools & factories there.
2. having US troops close to the Pakistan border, and able to rush into Pakistan to seize the 100+ nuclear warheads, if they were threatened to fall into the hands of jihadists.

Most AQ left Afghanistan for south Yemen, Sudan and Somalia before 2011..

Untying the Gordian Knot: Why the Taliban is Unlikely to ...

Untying the Gordian Knot: Why the Taliban is Unlikely to Break Ties with Al-Qaeda - Modern War Institute

When the political officer of the US embassy in Islamabad met with top Taliban official Jalaluddin Haqqani in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi in May 1999, neither the US government […]

mwi.usma.edu

But when pressed publicly, the Taliban insists that al-Qaeda is not in Afghanistan and that the last al-Qaeda fighters left the country around the time of the Arab Spring. In off-the-record conversations, however, some Taliban leaders open up and portray foreign jihadist fighters as Muslim dissidents who deserve their support.

Pakistan remains a key US ally for two reasons: First, the army is the only force currently capable of flushing Islamist militant groups out of their sanctuaries in the tribal areas. Second, the US recognizes that they would need Pakistan to lean on the Afghan Taliban to initiate any kind of meaningful peace negotiations.
Why Pakistan will remain a key US ally | Asia | DW.COM ...
www.dw.com/en/why-pakistan-will-remain-a-key-us-ally/a-18190081
www.dw.com/en/why-pakistan-will-remain-a-key-us-ally/a-18190081

 

[surada]

Don't you know that they are world supremacist ? They will not accept anything less that 100% world dominaiton of Islam. Read the Koran.

So far you're batting zero.

Pakistan remains a key US ally for two reasons: First, the army is the only force currently capable of flushing Islamist militant groups out of their sanctuaries in the tribal areas. Second, the US recognizes that they would need Pakistan to lean on the Afghan Taliban to initiate any kind of meaningful peace negotiations.
Why Pakistan will remain a key US ally | Asia | DW.COM ...

An important ally – DW – 01/14/2015

Secretary of State John Kerry has said the US will boost its security and defense cooperation with Pakistan in its fight against militants. DW speaks to analyst Omar Hamid on the nature of the US-Pakistani military bond.

www.dw.com

 

[surada]

INVALIDATION is hard-wired in liberals.,...and if you had any real complaint with the CONTENT of this editorial, you had every opportunity to voice that SPECIFIC disagreement.

Since you expressed no specific disagreement, I will assume you don't have one.

You're dumb as a stump. Most AQ left Afghanistan before 2011 and Pakistan is an important US ally.

 

[Fang]

Yeah, the thousands of lives, limbs and minds, the trillions of dollars, all wasted on Bush's wars should be ignored so we can focus on what was inevitable from the very beginning.

‘The real war is in Afghanistan” - Barack Obama

If Bush and Obama both agreed troops needed to be in Afghanistan then clearly there was reason to be there. Trump also did what needed to be done for national security. However, looks Biden if going to fck it up. How many lives will be lost now with this weak President?

 

[gipper]

FALSE! Our government has been fighting a defensive effort, against a foe, mightily determined to annihilate us. You are DUPED and lost.

Oh man are you delusional.

 

[surada]

‘The real war is in Afghanistan” - Barack Obama

If Bush and Obama both agreed troops needed to be in Afghanistan then clearly there was reason to be there. Trump also did what needed to be done for national security. However, looks Biden if going to fck it up. How many lives will be lost now with this weak President?

The Taliban are not now nor have they ever been a threat to the US. We can gather intelligence on Afghanistan without troops on the ground.

 

[DudleySmith]

Where do you get that from?

The Russians couldn't do it in 10 years.

We tried it in 2002. That didn't happen.

We weren't trying to win a war; we were merely trying to maintain the status quo and let the locals solve their own political issues. That is the faillure, not our military; the military is constantly being misused in this fashion, as a police force and not a military force.

 

[surada]

We weren't trying to win a war; we were merely trying to maintain the status quo and let the locals solve their own political issues. That is the faillure, not our military; the military is constantly being misused in this fashion, as a police force and not a military force.

The Taliban isn't a threat to the US.

Who Is Responsible for the Taliban? | The Washington Institute

Who Is Responsible for the Taliban?

The roots of the Afghan civil war and the country's subsequent transformation into a safe-haven for the world's most destructive terror network began in the decades prior to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

The fight between the mujahidin forces commanded by Masud and the Taliban became a fight between those who had been beneficiaries of American assistance in the 1980s, and those who had sprung to prominence in the aftermath of American withdrawal from Afghan affairs.

 

[surada]

The Taliban explained

The armed group has emerged as a strong player as US-led foreign forces pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years.

The Taliban explained

The armed group is all set to retake power 20 years after it was removed from power in a US-led military invasion.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Mac1958]

‘The real war is in Afghanistan” - Barack Obama

If Bush and Obama both agreed troops needed to be in Afghanistan then clearly there was reason to be there. Trump also did what needed to be done for national security. However, looks Biden if going to fck it up. How many lives will be lost now with this weak President?

Bush put us there. No one else. No spin matters.

 

[kyzr]

Bush put us there. No one else. No spin matters.

Bush went after Bin Ladin after 911. Tora-Bora is not spin, it was a battle.
It was the 20-years of "nation-building" that followed that was a foreign policy disaster.
That disaster is finally playing out with beheadings and burkas, and that is none of our business, we are not the world's cop.

Battle of Tora Bora - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

Bush went after Bin Ladin after 911. Tora-Bora is not spin, it was a battle.
It was the 20-years of "nation-building" that followed that was a foreign policy disaster.
That disaster is finally playing out with beheadings and burkas, and that is none of our business, we are not the world's cop.

Battle of Tora Bora - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It should have been a limited police action. Taliban offered to hand OBL over if the US could produce proof,

 

[DudleySmith]

It should have been a limited police action. Taliban offered to hand OBL over if the US could produce proof,

They should have wiped the vermin out, leveled the places they were hiding out, whether some scumbag Pakis liked it or not. It would have been over in a day or two, like the destruction Iraq's military, with maybe 60 American casualties, most of them non-combat.

 

[surada]

They should have wiped the vermin out, leveled the places they were hiding out, whether some scumbag Pakis liked it or not. It would have been over in a day or two, like the destruction Iraq's military, with maybe 60 American casualties, most of them non-combat.

You do know that Pakistan and Afghanistan are not the same country, don't you? Pakistan is a US ally.