"Biden's documents are different from Trump's documents"

[jc456]

A Special Counsel is appointed to investigate if a crime is suspected. We're not at that point yet. We're at the point where a judge is reviewing to determine if a crime could have even been committed.

not what happened to Trump! FBI raided his house. And he was allowed those documents. just saying.

 

[basquebromance]

 

[AntonToo]

I guess you miss the point. It doesn't matter if they were investigating 2012 matters, the point was that Hunter was on the board, NOT coincidently, and the company most certainly did not want an investigation of any sort. It is hardly a stretch to think that Hunter's influence and his close relationship with "big guy", who could make things happen, played a part in Shokin being fired.

Nope, I didn't miss that point. It is a SEPARATE point.

It's one thing to say that Hunter was personally being investigated and thats why his father, who is angling for Presidency of the United States of America would stick his neck out. But saying that Biden would jeopardise his life's work by undertaking corrupt acts just so his son can keep making a few bucks? That just a lot less belivable.

Joe Biden has put entire American aid to Ukraine on the barganing table. That is a very serious, very high profile act. If you are going to say that was a corrupt act, then there better be some damn good evidence, which is simply not there (again, don't take my word for it, see the Republican report).

We know that Ukrane has been notorious for soviet style corruption and it's been our goal to get them to clean up. Nobody is denying that Shokin was corrupt. Nobody is denying that his removal was good for us and Ukraine. So it is hard to understand what makes you so sure (aside from primitive political bias) that Joe Biden acted corruptly as opposed to simply doing his job and advancing American foreign policy interests.

 

[SweetTea]

But saying that Biden would jeopardise his life's work by undertaking corrupt acts just so his son can keep making a few bucks? That just a lot less belivable.

It was more than just a few bucks. Over the course of 5 years, it would be close to 5 million. Biden was pretty emboldened and rightly so. The Obama administration royally corrupted our 3 letter agencies. To this day, Biden assumes he has nothing to fear with political allies that control the DOJ and other important agencies, not to mention the MSM that runs cover for him on a daily basis. The sad part for our country is that he may be right.

 

[AntonToo]

It was more than just a few bucks. Over the course of 5 years, it would be close to 5 million. Biden was pretty emboldened and rightly so. The Obama administration royally corrupted our 3 letter agencies. To this day, Biden assumes he has nothing to fear with political allies that control the DOJ and other important agencies, not to mention the MSM that runs cover for him on a daily basis. The sad part for our country is that he may be right.

Shokin was removed in 2016, and Hunter left the company in 2019 for no other reason than bad optics. He made about $2 million in 2016-2019, not 5 million as you claim. To aging Joe Biden becoming POTUS was by far the priority, not money.

See if you can address the rest of my post:


Joe Biden has put entire American aid to Ukraine on the barganing table. That is a very serious, very high profile act. If you are going to say that was a corrupt act, then there better be some damn good evidence, which is simply not there (again, don't take my word for it, see the Republican report).

We know that Ukrane has been notorious for soviet style corruption and it's been our goal to get them to clean up. Nobody is denying that Shokin was corrupt. Nobody is denying that his removal was good for us and Ukraine. So it is hard to understand what makes you so sure (aside from primitive political bias) that Joe Biden acted corruptly as opposed to simply doing his job and advancing American foreign policy interests.

 

[struth]

That's just another of your insane lies.

Burisma investigation had to do with matters well before Hunter joining their board. Even Shokin stated that Hunter was never a subject of investigation.

and that sort of the point.....the company was already corrupt and the Xiden family still joined up with it.

It really is starting to make sense why Xiden stole Top Secret documents that related to Ukraine when he left the VP office

 

[AntonToo]

and that sort of the point.....the company was already corrupt and the Xiden family still joined up with it.

It really is starting to make sense why Xiden stole Top Secret documents that related to Ukraine when he left the VP office

You are conflating a private citizen Hunter Biden (who we know is a flawed character) and his dad who was the Vice President of the United States (who's character has had a solid reputation through a lifetime of public service).

There is zero evidence Joe Biden had any dealings with Burisma. Maybe you should get that before associating the whole Biden family with that company.

 

[struth]

You are conflating a private citizen Hunter Biden (who we know is a flawed character) and his dad who was the Vice President of the United States.

There is zero evidence Joe Biden had any dealings with Burisma. Maybe you should get that before associating the whole Biden family with that company.

10 percent for the big guy.....now we see that he stole top secret classified documents related to Ukraine when he left the VP office.....interesting development

 

[AntonToo]

Biden assumes he has nothing to fear with political allies that control the DOJ and other important agencies

Thats a crazy statement considering Republicans wrote a report about this during Joe Biden's bid for presdency and Bill Barr was running Trump's DOJ.

How can you say with a straight face that they had a pro-Biden bias?

 

[AntonToo]

10 percent for the big guy.

That was in an email about a (failed) Chinese deal.

Zero to do with Ukraine and Burisma, so what else you've got aside from fantasies?

 

[struth]

That was in an email about a (failed) Chinese deal.

Zero to do with Ukraine and Burisma.

The 10 percent was a routine pay to play that had to be kicked up to the big guy. There is no evidence it was simply for that one deal.

Hunter got the job, because of his dad, his dad stole top secret documents related to Ukraine for him. They were clearly in it together.

 

[SweetTea]

Thats a crazy statement considering Republicans wrote a report about this during Joe Biden's bid for presdency and Bill Barr was running Trump's DOJ.

How can you say with a straight face that they had a pro-Biden bias?

Maybe because of justice department guidelines?

AG William Barr reportedly hid two federal probes into Hunter Biden for months

 

[basquebromance]

 

[Godboy]

It means the documents are still classified.

And yes, it's a crime because they're government records even if they're not classified at all.

What makes you say the documents would still be still classified? Show me that is written.

 

[AntonToo]

Maybe because of justice department guidelines?

AG William Barr reportedly hid two federal probes into Hunter Biden for months

So what? Hidden or not, DOJ was investigating.

My point about DOJ and Republicans having exactly opposite of pro-Biden bias remains. You can't say that the only reason truth is not coming out is because there was no one to bring it out. There was, they tried and they found no there there.

 

[AntonToo]

The 10 percent was a routine pay to play that had to be kicked up to the big guy. There is no evidence it was simply for that one deal.

Thats a fantasy. All we have is that one email, about that one deal and for all we know Hunter would simply pocket that 10% himself.

Well...maybe I shouldn't say thats all we have. There is also full tax returns that we have from Joe Biden that show nothing fo the sort.

 

[struth]

Thats a fantasy. All we have is that one email, about that one deal and for all we know Hunter would simply pocket that 10% himself.

Hunter said 10 percent was for the big guy......we have testimony from his biz partner....https://nypost.com/2022/04/04/hunter-biden-grand-jury-witness-was-asked-about-deal-with-chinese-firm-and-the-big-guy/

Another former Hunter Biden partner, US Navy veteran Tony Bobulinski, later revealed that “the big guy” was Hunter’s dad, then the Democratic candidate for president, saying, “I have heard Joe Biden say he has never discussed his dealings with Hunter. That is false.”
“Conspiracy is a standalone crime in our country, and you’ve certainly got enough to present to the grand jury that there’s a conspiracy among Joe, [brother] James and Hunter to bring in money, to not declare that money, to not pay taxes on that money,” he said.

“And to do so from a country like China, it’s not just red flags — there are potential crimes being committed.”

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What makes you say the documents would still be still classified? Show me that is written.

They are marked classified.

The court is calling them classified.

The DOJ is calling them classified.

Trumps lawyers are calling them classified.

Normal people don't need any more proof that they are classified.

 

[JGalt]

Gee. I leave here for two days and when I get back, I find that the Biden regime is crumbling like a stale cookie.

 

[struth]

They are marked classified.

The court is calling them classified.

The DOJ is calling them classified.

Trumps lawyers are calling them classified.

Normal people don't need any more proof that they are classified.

and he didn’t hide them for the past half decade like xiden did