Bidenomics - Everything's Going Just Great!

[Nostra]

If Trump got 8 years he would have spent 17 trillion. Obama 10 trillion.

Hey sealybobo some friendly advice. Never talk numbers again. Here, or anywhere. EVER.

You really suck at numbers. Obama spend $10 trillion?

Facts show he spent over $23 TRILLION.

2010 $1,531.019 $2,902.397 -$1,371.378 2011 $1,737.678 $3,104.459 -$1,366.781 2012 $1,880.489 $3,018.975 -$1,138.486 2013 $2,101.832 $2,281.070 -$719.238 2014 $2,285.926 $2,800.231 -$514.305 2015 $2,479.518 $2,948.773 -$469.255 2016 $2,457.785 $3,077.942 -$620.157 2017 $2,465.566 $3,180.429 -$714.863

US Federal Budgetary Spending by Year – Polidiotic

 

[Faun]

Hey sealybobo some friendly advice. Never talk numbers again. Here, or anywhere. EVER.

You really suck at numbers. Obama spend $10 trillion?

Facts show he spent over $23 TRILLION.

2010 $1,531.019 $2,902.397 -$1,371.378 2011 $1,737.678 $3,104.459 -$1,366.781 2012 $1,880.489 $3,018.975 -$1,138.486 2013 $2,101.832 $2,281.070 -$719.238 2014 $2,285.926 $2,800.231 -$514.305 2015 $2,479.518 $2,948.773 -$469.255 2016 $2,457.785 $3,077.942 -$620.157 2017 $2,465.566 $3,180.429 -$714.863

US Federal Budgetary Spending by Year – Polidiotic

Whereas Trump spent $18t in 4 years. Per year average...

Obama: $2.9t
Trump: $4.6t

 

[sealybobo]

Hey sealybobo some friendly advice. Never talk numbers again. Here, or anywhere. EVER.

You really suck at numbers. Obama spend $10 trillion?

Facts show he spent over $23 TRILLION.

2010 $1,531.019 $2,902.397 -$1,371.378 2011 $1,737.678 $3,104.459 -$1,366.781 2012 $1,880.489 $3,018.975 -$1,138.486 2013 $2,101.832 $2,281.070 -$719.238 2014 $2,285.926 $2,800.231 -$514.305 2015 $2,479.518 $2,948.773 -$469.255 2016 $2,457.785 $3,077.942 -$620.157 2017 $2,465.566 $3,180.429 -$714.863

US Federal Budgetary Spending by Year – Polidiotic

Fake news! Dude, I'm in Florida right now. Why is food soooo expensive here?

 

[Esoteric Inkling]

 

[dudmuck]

No stupid, Bidenflation has far outpaced any wage increases. Holy shit you are dumb.

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[sealybobo]

I don't rent, I own...

Kimmel Tricks Trump Voters Into Revealing What They Really Think About Trump

The late-night comedian’s crew pulled a “Debate and Switch” on fans of the former president.

www.huffpost.com

Go to 7 minutes in. Jimmy shows how Fox News is bipolar news. One program they are telling viewers how great the economy is but then in other programs they have talking heads talking about what a disaster Biden's economy is. Unbelievable.

Then after that he shows how bipolar trump supporters are. They asked the woman what do you think about Biden suggesting covid could be cured by using a bright light inside the body. She said "clearly he's a dementia and it's an uneducated statement. Then the interviewer said "oops, I got my notes mixed up. Can I start over? Then she asked the same question only Trump said it and suddenly the woman thought the idea was brilliant?

 

[sealybobo]

Oh really?

Inflation is at 9% like it was?

No?

It’s down in the 3% range?

Yeah… that 9% inflation is in the past

and the causes of ( brought about by actions of BOTH Biden and Trump) it are as well.

"We don't think there is much scope for Trump to repeat the fiscal expansion and tax breaks which boosted equities during his first term in office; instead, we think the policy most likely to move markets this time would be escalating the 'trade war' with China and potentially imposing universal tariffs on US imports,"

For his part, Trump said earlier this month that he would consider implementing a sky-high 60% tariff on Chinese goods if he were re-elected. That would be significantly more than the tariffs Trump implemented in 2018, and not only would it disrupt global trade, but it would undo a lot of the progress the Federal Reserve has made in combatting inflation.

"His tariff proposals would probably trigger a rebound in inflation which could persuade the FOMC to raise interest rates,"
So Trump's trade war with China that he lost caused inflation? Of course it did. My company had a hard time ordering one of our machines that is made in China.

I know blue collar Republicans aren't affected when Trump disrupts the flow of business but I am.

And now I see this also played a role in causing inflation. Add this to the list of reasons inflation is Trump's fault.

Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie Call Out Trump for Adding to Federal Debt​

"He owes it to you to defend his record where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt that set the stage for the inflation that we have."​

 

[debbiedowner]

"We don't think there is much scope for Trump to repeat the fiscal expansion and tax breaks which boosted equities during his first term in office; instead, we think the policy most likely to move markets this time would be escalating the 'trade war' with China and potentially imposing universal tariffs on US imports,"

For his part, Trump said earlier this month that he would consider implementing a sky-high 60% tariff on Chinese goods if he were re-elected. That would be significantly more than the tariffs Trump implemented in 2018, and not only would it disrupt global trade, but it would undo a lot of the progress the Federal Reserve has made in combatting inflation.

"His tariff proposals would probably trigger a rebound in inflation which could persuade the FOMC to raise interest rates,"
So Trump's trade war with China that he lost caused inflation? Of course it did. My company had a hard time ordering one of our machines that is made in China.

I know blue collar Republicans aren't affected when Trump disrupts the flow of business but I am.

And now I see this also played a role in causing inflation. Add this to the list of reasons inflation is Trump's fault.

Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie Call Out Trump for Adding to Federal Debt​

"He owes it to you to defend his record where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt that set the stage for the inflation that we have."​

They think the economy is bad now just wait until Trump imposes the tariffs.

Trumponomics? He would impose the equivalent of a huge tax hike​

MSN

If Donald Trump becomes president again, one of his first moves will take money out of your pocket just as a tax hike would.

Trump hasn't outlined much of an economic program, but he has promised to impose a massive increase in tariffs on imports from almost all foreign countries — everything from bananas and baby formula to computer chips and machine parts.

And that’s the equivalent of a tax hike, because the costs of tariffs are paid almost entirely by the buyers of imported goods, whether they are Walmart shoppers or U.S. businesses that rely on foreign components.

Trump boasts that the tariffs he imposed in 2018 and 2019 brought billions of dollars into the Treasury, and promises a similar revenue increase in a second term. “The United States will make an absolute FORTUNE,” his campaign website says.

Here’s the problem: Contrary to what the former president seems to think, tariffs aren’t paid by foreign companies or governments. They’re initially paid by the U.S. companies that import the goods, but those importers almost always pass the cost on to consumers in the form of higher prices.

This time, Trump is proposing a “universal” tariff of 10% on goods from every country in the world. He has also mused about megatariffs of more than 60% that he wants to slap on China in hopes of forcing Beijing to lower its tariffs and treat U.S. companies fairly.

 

[sealybobo]

They think the economy is bad now just wait until Trump imposes the tariffs.

Trumponomics? He would impose the equivalent of a huge tax hike​

MSN

If Donald Trump becomes president again, one of his first moves will take money out of your pocket just as a tax hike would.

Trump hasn't outlined much of an economic program, but he has promised to impose a massive increase in tariffs on imports from almost all foreign countries — everything from bananas and baby formula to computer chips and machine parts.

And that’s the equivalent of a tax hike, because the costs of tariffs are paid almost entirely by the buyers of imported goods, whether they are Walmart shoppers or U.S. businesses that rely on foreign components.

Trump boasts that the tariffs he imposed in 2018 and 2019 brought billions of dollars into the Treasury, and promises a similar revenue increase in a second term. “The United States will make an absolute FORTUNE,” his campaign website says.

Here’s the problem: Contrary to what the former president seems to think, tariffs aren’t paid by foreign companies or governments. They’re initially paid by the U.S. companies that import the goods, but those importers almost always pass the cost on to consumers in the form of higher prices.

This time, Trump is proposing a “universal” tariff of 10% on goods from every country in the world. He has also mused about megatariffs of more than 60% that he wants to slap on China in hopes of forcing Beijing to lower its tariffs and treat U.S. companies fairly.

Every time Republicans control the country they ruin a good thing. Trump's trade war with China slowed growth in 2019 to 2.3%. Biden is over 3% in 3rd quarter. Greatest president ever by Trump's standards.

 

[sealybobo]

Leftist dems.....But your house is worth more.

Real estate veteran warns ‘hopelessness’ in housing market threatens the American dream

President Trump's mindset on a potential housing crisis "is needed at this time," says affordable home builder Dan Coakley, who offers a three-pronged approach to the issue.

www.foxbusiness.com

But Trump has raised tariffs on all the countries we get our housing supplies from. His tariffs made new homes even more unaffordable. No?

On Monday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the Washington Examiner that the Trump administration may declare a national housing emergency this fall, citing rising prices and dwindling supply.

So you view our homes rising values as a problem?

Let's see Trump fix this

Additionally, Harvard’s 2025 State of the Nation’s Housing report shows home sales have fallen to a 30-year low, weighed down by high prices, interest rates, rising insurance and taxes and shrinking affordability.

"Whether you're a supporter of the president or not a supporter, I think we can all see that he's willing to try different approaches and even willing to fail, and that's kind of the mindset that's needed at this time of a crisis, which has been ongoing now for several years.

No, we don't need him to fail. He needs to start encouraging the building of more affordable housing. He needs to lower the costs of lumber and other materials needed to make homes. We buy a lot of that shit overseas. He's raised prices 10% or more on EVERYTHING.

 

[Winco]

You're still paying higher electric and or gas bills, higher insurance and taxes, higher prices for food and everything else.

Don't try to bullshit people. You know damned well Joe Biden's America is shit, compared to the way things were in 2019.

And look at that......it's 2025 and trump has fixed it all.
What a great man.

 

[1srelluc]

Real estate veteran warns ‘hopelessness’ in housing market threatens the American dream

President Trump's mindset on a potential housing crisis "is needed at this time," says affordable home builder Dan Coakley, who offers a three-pronged approach to the issue.

www.foxbusiness.com

But Trump has raised tariffs on all the countries we get our housing supplies from. His tariffs made new homes even more unaffordable. No?

On Monday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the Washington Examiner that the Trump administration may declare a national housing emergency this fall, citing rising prices and dwindling supply.

So you view our homes rising values as a problem?

Let's see Trump fix this

Additionally, Harvard’s 2025 State of the Nation’s Housing report shows home sales have fallen to a 30-year low, weighed down by high prices, interest rates, rising insurance and taxes and shrinking affordability.

"Whether you're a supporter of the president or not a supporter, I think we can all see that he's willing to try different approaches and even willing to fail, and that's kind of the mindset that's needed at this time of a crisis, which has been ongoing now for several years.

No, we don't need him to fail. He needs to start encouraging the building of more affordable housing. He needs to lower the costs of lumber and other materials needed to make homes. We buy a lot of that shit overseas. He's raised prices 10% or more on EVERYTHING.

Well the guy that bought my mom's place upgraded the house and is building a duplex on the lot she had next to it.

Plenty of homes being built in my AO. Maybe it has more to do with where decent people want to live.

I'd not invest and build in high crime blue shit-holes either.

 

[justoffal]

Real estate veteran warns ‘hopelessness’ in housing market threatens the American dream

President Trump's mindset on a potential housing crisis "is needed at this time," says affordable home builder Dan Coakley, who offers a three-pronged approach to the issue.

www.foxbusiness.com

But Trump has raised tariffs on all the countries we get our housing supplies from. His tariffs made new homes even more unaffordable. No?

On Monday, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told the Washington Examiner that the Trump administration may declare a national housing emergency this fall, citing rising prices and dwindling supply.

So you view our homes rising values as a problem?

Let's see Trump fix this

Additionally, Harvard’s 2025 State of the Nation’s Housing report shows home sales have fallen to a 30-year low, weighed down by high prices, interest rates, rising insurance and taxes and shrinking affordability.

"Whether you're a supporter of the president or not a supporter, I think we can all see that he's willing to try different approaches and even willing to fail, and that's kind of the mindset that's needed at this time of a crisis, which has been ongoing now for several years.

No, we don't need him to fail. He needs to start encouraging the building of more affordable housing. He needs to lower the costs of lumber and other materials needed to make homes. We buy a lot of that shit overseas. He's raised prices 10% or more on EVERYTHING.

It doesn't matter how much the materials cost the only thing that matters is supply and demand.
Materials prices could go up by 20% at the same time house prices go down by 20%.... In fact you're about to see that happen.

 

[sealybobo]

Well the guy that bought my mom's place upgraded the house and is building a duplex on the lot she had next to it.

Plenty of homes being built in my AO. Maybe it has more to do with where decent people want to live.

I'd not invest and build in high crime blue shit-holes either.

Well no shit sherlock. I go up north MI all the time. Rural America. No big cities. Of course you don't have housing shortages. Just no jobs.

 

[1srelluc]

Well no shit sherlock. I go up north MI all the time. Rural America. No big cities. Of course you don't have housing shortages. Just no jobs.

All kinds of decent jobs available in my AO.

 

[sealybobo]

All kinds of decent jobs available in my AO.

Where do you live? We will tell all the poor people in Chicago so they can come find work. Plus I'd like to look up the unemployment numbers in your AO, whatever AO is.

 

[1srelluc]

Where do you live? We will tell all the poor people in Chicago so they can come find work. Plus I'd like to look up the unemployment numbers in your AO, whatever AO is.

60 miles due west of DC.....The lemmings travel into NOtVA to work every morning.

AO....Area of Operations.

The unemployment rate in my county is 3-4%.....Roughly the same as all counties in my extended AO....By national standards that is called full-employment.

 

[Hafar1014]

Why, instead of just posting this, you break this down for us and how Biden is responsible for high rents? Looks to me like this is just old capitalism being practiced at it's finest. In some states not only capitalism comes into play but due to higher property insurance rates, hoa fees maybe?

Come on list why it's the administrations fault.

Bidens inflation drove up prices everywhere

 

[sealybobo]

60 miles due west of DC.....The lemmings travel into NOtVA to work every morning.

AO....Area of Operations.

The unemployment rate in my county is 3-4%.....Roughly the same as all counties in my extended AO....By national standards that is called full-employment.

Sounds like a lot of government jobs around you.

I live in a really nice white middle class neighborhood too. We've had low unemployment too. Even under Biden. You guys said yea sure but people aren't making enough to pay rent and buy groceries.

The Oakland County, MI unemployment rate was 4.5% in July 2025

What county do you live in?

The average salary in Oakland County varies significantly depending on the source, with estimates ranging from around $65,454 (2023 employee salary) from OpenPayrolls to a median household income of approximately $95,300 (2019-2023) from USAFacts.

the wealthiest county in the Metro Detroit area and a very wealthy county in Michigan.

 

[debbiedowner]

Bidens inflation drove up prices everywhere

GD rents were very high before Biden took office. Just look up our local rent control guy protectionist and go on his posts.