- Nov 22, 2003
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This is truly freakin' unbelievable! All I can say is be glad you're not employed by him! There will be mega fallout from the Obama stuff:
Biden Unbound: Lays Into
Clinton, Obama, Edwards
Loquacious Senator, Democratic Candidate on Hillary: �Four of 10 Is the Max You Can Get?� Edwards �Doesn�t Know What He�s Talking About�
By Jason Horowitz
Senator Joseph Biden doesnt think highly of the Iraq policies of some of the other Democrats who are running for President.
To hear him tell it, Hillary Clintons position is calibrated, confusing and a very bad idea. John Edwards doesnt know what hes talking about and is pushing a recipe for Armageddon in the Middle East. Barack Obama is offering charming but insubstantial fluff. And all of them are playing politics.
Let me put it this way, Mr. Biden said. You didnt hear any one of them get in this debate at all until they announced for President.
Mr. Biden, who ran an ill-fated campaign for President in 1988, is a man who believes his time has finally come, announcing this week that he was filing papers to make his 2008 Presidential bid official. Although he admits to a tendency to bloviate, he thinks that an aggressive advocate with rough edges might be just what the party needs right now. Democrats nominated the perfect blow-dried candidates in 2000 and 2004, he said, and they couldnt connect.
Though Mr. Biden, 64, has never achieved his national ambitions, he has in recent years emerged as one of the partys go-to experts on foreign policy. In the past week, he has spearheaded the Democratic pushback against the Presidents plan to increase troop levels in Iraq, opposing the move with a non-binding resolution that his party has rallied around.
On a recent weekday afternoon, he was discussing his rivals over a bowl of tomato soup in the corner of a diner in Delaware, about a 15-minute drive from his Senate office. He wore a red cardigan and blue shirt, periodically raising his raspy voice over the sound of loudspeakers summoning customers to pick up their sandwiches. He had showed up carrying a Mead notebook filled with handwritten talking points, but once hed gotten started, he closed the book and pushed it aside.
The subject he prefers to talk about these daysparticularly when contrasting himself with his prospective Presidential rivalsis Iraq.
Addressing Mrs. Clintons latest proposal to cap American troops and to threaten Iraqi leaders with cuts in funding, Mr. Biden lowered his voice and leaned in close over the table.
From the part of Hillarys proposal, the part that really baffles me is, Were going to teach the Iraqis a lesson. Were not going to equip them? O.K. Cap our troops and withdraw support from the Iraqis? Thats a real good idea.
The result of Mrs. Clintons position on Iraq, Mr. Biden says, would be nothing but disaster.
Most early polls show Mrs. Clinton as the partys clear front-runner. Mr. Biden, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is firmly in the thick of a pack of third-tier candidates. Still, he thinks that at such a precarious point in the nations history, voters are seeking someone with his level of experience to take the helm.
Are they going to turn to Hillary Clinton? Biden asked, lowering his voice to a hush to explain why Mrs. Clinton wont win the election.
Everyone in the world knows her, he said. Her husband has used every single legitimate tool in his behalf to lock people in, shut people down. Legitimate. And she cant break out of 30 percent for a choice for Democrats? Where do you want to be? Do you want to be in a place where 100 percent of the Democrats know you? Theyve looked at you for the last three years. And four out of 10 is the max you can get?
Mr. Biden is equally skepticalalbeit in a slightly more backhanded wayabout Mr. Obama. I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American(Whoops! He couldn't mean that? He 'forgot' to say 'Presidential Candidate?' who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, he said. I mean, thats a storybook, man.
Butand the but was clearly inevitablehe doubts whether American voters are going to elect a one-term, a guy who has served for four years in the Senate, and added: I dont recall hearing a word from Barack about a plan or a tactic.
(After the interview with Mr. Biden and shortly before press time, Mr. Obama proposed legislation that would require all American combat brigades to be withdrawn from Iraq by the end of March 2008.)