Biden needs to put his foot down on Israel

[shockedcanadian]

If Trump wins he can't do shit. Iran can still sell oil to China and Russia, and we all know Trump isn't going to do anything about it.

And if he tried to support a full scale invasion, Iran could sink enough shipping in the Straights of Hormuz, to shut down 30% of the entire global oil market.

How do you think that work out for you sunshine?

Because the current path of world.weakness is so appealing. I wont repeat some of the posts I saw on youtube after the VP debate. Lets just say, confidence in America isnt trending up.

 

[skews13]

Because the current path of world.weakness is so appealing. I wont repeat some of the posts I saw on youtube after the VP debate. Lets just say, confidence in America isnt trending up.

If Netanyahu wants to wage a war with Iran. Fine. Keep us posted on how it's going.

But we damn sure aren't going to supply him with troops to do his fighting for him.

 

[shockedcanadian]

If Netanyahu wants to wage a war with Iran. Fine. Keep us posted on how it's going.

But we damn sure aren't going to supply him with troops to do his fighting for him.

America wont be providing troops, Israel won't need it as they have the technological advantage.

They just need the support, just as Ukraine receives. They both fight for the rest of the world because these are major theatres of war.

 

[tahuyaman]

The attack was not unprovoked.

It was unprovoked. Of course sub human idiots like you think just the existence of Israel is a provocation.

 

[marvin martian]

Yeah! All them damn Jews being Jewish and shit! They're just ASKING for it!

IM2 will also tell you girls who wear short skirts deserve to be raped.

 

[Couchpotato]

Biden needs to put his foot down on Israel because if he doesn't the entire ******* middle east is going to be inflamed in a regional war. A war that kills tens of millions in the next 6 months.

Israel is attacking and killing tens if not hundreds of thousands of innocent people. Sure, they have a right to self defense but they're violating every standard of war. I seriously don't believe iran or other countries is going to sit by and allow this for too much longer.

Time to stop providing weapons and funding to israel until they respect international laws of war and work towards a cess fire. Biden needs to do what is right.

Both sides are terrible on this issue, and I dont think they are going to move significantly away from where they currently are. Question is who's take is worse. Since both sides are going to let Israel do most of what it wants would it be better to just take the leash off as Trump is suggesting? If the war is going to happen anyway maybe Israel being decisive is better? Unfortunately, I dont think we have a choice on the ballot who's going to tell Israel they cant go around punching people in the mouth because the biggest bully on the block isnt backing them up anymore.

 

[CowboyTed]

Cut off all funding and weapons
Work with all western countries to restrict their aid and weapons
Isolate them until they accept peace and a two state solution.

Honestly you are half right...

They need the same thing on the other side too...

Iran are looking for a deal and have for over two decades now...

 

[fncceo]

Biden needs to put his foot down on Israel because if he doesn't the entire ******* middle east is going to be inflamed in a regional war.

Put his foot down on the ONE COUNTRY in The Middle East who isn't instigating the attacks.

 

[Kilroy2]

the arabs and Jewish people have been at this for more then 7 decades

Nobody has found a solution. There have been breaks and some movement but in the end it just the break between the restart button.

So Trump has no quick fix. He had his shot and he did nothing. He just official a politician making promises. Also he wants to stay out of jail mostly.

The Jewish lobby is primed and they even have christians joining in to lobby on their behalf

The largest pro-Israel lobbying group is Christians United for Israel with over seven million members.[1] The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a leading organization within the lobby, speaking on behalf of a coalition of pro-Israel American Jewish groups.

Now the muslims are getting in on this. The Muslim community. - There is a reason the US is a focus by muslim terrorist. Probably the only pretend friend that the US has is Saudi Arabia. Still they are Muslims.

The Israel lobby has funded primary campaigns against members of both parties who are viewed as hostile to Israel's interests

the US is seen as a pawn that can be bought to further their goals. If Trump keeps yaping , he will anger them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/whats-israel-palestinian-conflict-about-how-did-it-start-2023-10-30/#:~:text=Dec%205%20%28Reuters%29%20-%20A%20war%20between%20Israel,for%20seven%20decades%20and%20destabilised%20the%20Middle%20East.

 

[Frankenstein]

The United States funding, and support is what is embolding the Zionist in their blood thirsty quest and murder of the Palestinian people. The U.S support of the Israeli genocide must stop. !?!

Palestinians do not exist sorry!
Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here's what he said:

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Palestinians do not exist sorry!

They did not exist until the day after Israel kicked Jordan out of the West Bank.
Prior to that, they were Jordanians.

 

[Kilroy2]

Trump had 4 years to find peace in the middle east

With the historic Abraham Accords, I even made peace in the Middle East, we're gonna have peace in the Middle East," he shouted.

How many believe that there is peace in the middle east

raise your hand

Seems like he left out the palestinians in this peace accords.

It seems that they would have to be part of it.

Then the countries that signed were not even at war

none of the parties to the Abraham Accords were ever engaged in military conflict against each other, so framing normalization as peace is a gross misrepresentation of what the agreements actually achieved."

trump had 4 s to find peace in the middle east under trump today - Yahoo Search Results

 

[AZrailwhale]

We all come to the table and work out peace. Fighting the entire middle east is unwinnable and not a good idea.

The Muslims don't wan’t peace with Israel. They want to eradicate it. The only reason they stopped national attacks on Israel was that Israel became a nuclear power and can now exterminate them instead.

 

[AZrailwhale]

if Trump wins he will face pressure to find peace in the M.E. I presume he will achieve it through the removal of Iranian cash and pressure on Bibi to a lesser degree and to Hazbollah.

Bibi is not very popular and he understands this. He is, however, far more trusting of Trump than other U.S politicians. Some guys prefer a no-bs conversation with someone, people being genuine are more trustworthy than someone he believes will speak from both sides of their mouth.

I have prayed for peace in the Middle East and protection of the innocent. It breaks my heart to know innocent people die, I can't even imagine it. I'd hate to be the man to drop a bomb on innocent people, G-d made us all and he doesn't take the death of his children lightly.

Here is the scary part in my opinion, Iran is quiet right now because there is a U.S election going on. How will Iran act if Trump loses? That, along with the other broader WWIII threat is what worries me.

If Trump wins Iran will pull in its horns and hope it can survive the increased sanctions he will put in place.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Honestly you are half right...

They need the same thing on the other side too...

Iran are looking for a deal and have for over two decades now...

It’s isn’t looking for a deal. We are the infidel, foreign enemy that allows the Mullahs to stay in power. They have been at war with the USA ever since they invaded our Tehran Embassy. We are the chumps that refuse to face reality.

 

[log cabin republican]

Biden lays in bed all day. He probably has trouble putting two feet on the floor from his bed.

 

[BackAgain]

Jessuckah says lots of very stupid shit.

See this thread, for instance.

 

[tahuyaman]

Trump had 4 years to find peace in the middle east

With the historic Abraham Accords, I even made peace in the Middle East, we're gonna have peace in the Middle East," he shouted.

How many believe that there is peace in the middle east

raise your hand

Seems like he left out the palestinians in this peace accords.

It seems that they would have to be part of it.

Then the countries that signed were not even at war

none of the parties to the Abraham Accords were ever engaged in military conflict against each other, so framing normalization as peace is a gross misrepresentation of what the agreements actually achieved."

trump had 4 s to find peace in the middle east under trump today - Yahoo Search Results

What new conflicts sprung up during the four years of Trump?

 

[Kilroy2]

What new conflicts sprung up during the four years of Trump?

What old conflicts were resolved during the four years of Trump
is the better question?

 

[Jarlaxle]

the arabs and Jewish people have been at this for more then 7 decades

Nobody has found a solution. There have been breaks and some movement but in the end it just the break between the restart button.
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There absolutely is a solution. It's just that nobody is willing to do it.

The Muslims don't wan’t peace with Israel. They want to eradicate it. The only reason they stopped national attacks on Israel was that Israel became a nuclear power and can now exterminate them instead.

That, and the fact they tried several times and got pasted.