Biden on forgiving student loan debt

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The point is there is too much being dolled out.

I don't disagree. But i also dont think the solution is to have a less educated populace. We need public tuition and price controls.

I am saying the same thing on public education. We agree. This is good. The problem with your side will arise when when the race mongers and class warfare warriors get their panties in a bunch because more whites are going to private’s colleges..

And the problems with your side will arise when they display their southern strategy conditioning and start to think we are robbing the hard worlong white man to give handouts to brown people and women.

So there is a lot of work to do.

 

[dblack]

We need public tuition and price controls.

No. Just no. Believe it or not, the answer isn't always MORE state control.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We need public tuition and price controls.

No. Just no. Believe it or not, the answer isn't always MORE state control.

Believe it or not, it's not true that the best solution is never state assistance. I can drop worthless non sequiturs all day, too.

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

We tried to tell you liberal idiots he was a liar....

What do you think he is lying about?

 

[j-mac]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

We tried to tell you liberal idiots he was a liar....

What do you think he is lying about?

I think he knew that his EO would make him culpable, not only politically, but with DoJ investigating possibly criminally, so he tried to cover it up....Cover ups never work.

Question is, will he face what he deserves?

 

[SweetTea]

Go ahead and blame whoever you want but reality is Congress, with the exception of Newt, has consistently failed to hold the line on the budget and went crazy with new spending.

Nah, that's the LAST place i will look. Our spending as %of GDP is right in the middle, for developed nations. Our tax revenue as %of GDP is stupidly low. I.E., the Republican way. It doesn't take a genius....

Our spending is too high. I don’t care much about how much quasi-Socialist governments spend. The people don’t have the same opportunities afforded to us in the US. You also don’t mention waste. In case you haven’t noticed, our government is woefully inefficient. We could cut 1/3 of our spending and couple it with more efficiency and still be in the black as compared to where we are now. Raising taxes is NOT the answer.

waste is an interesting notion when talking about government spending. Can you give a specific example? More specifically what spending would you consider wasteful and who was receiving the payments.

Entire books could be written on the subject, but below is just a small list totaling 230 million in 2019.

As far as receiving payments for pet projects and the like, congressman don’t become multi-millionaires from their reported incomes. You do the math.

Here Are The Most Wasteful Government Projects In 2019

Wanna pick your favorite single one and we can dig in?

Not sure why it matters which one I choose. This is just some of the many. Just for giggles, 22 million to improve the eduction of Egyptian schools. Let’s go for that one. Now, onto the justification as to why it is necessary for our “broke” and country to even consider such a project.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The point is there is too much being dolled out.

I don't disagree. But i also dont think the solution is to have a less educated populace. We need public tuition and price controls.

You can expand more education while still limiting debt. A student may need $10-$15k for 2 years at a local community college and $30k for the remaining two years at an In-State University. Those are acceptable debt levels. That same student is not going to be any less educated than the student who goes into $200k-$300k debt at a 4 year out of state private college. As for price controls, that is something you need to take up with Big Education. They are replete with people who feel entitled to high salaries and perks and exemptions from performance accountability through bullshit called “tenure”.

 

[hadit]

It also doesn't take a genius to realize why you don't want to look at Congress.

I just explained why. So no, it doesn't take a genius to read left to right, top to bottom. Dodge away.

Congress writes the spending and tax bills. The president has to decide if he goes along with them or risks granny getting thrown off the cliff again. Pretending the president is the sole cause of economic problems is foolish. Case in point, Bubba would not have come anywhere close to balancing the budget without Newt.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You can expand more education while still limiting debt.

Absolutely. And it isn't a guess. We can literally look at 20 other countries for tips.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pretending the president is the sole cause of economic problems is foolish.

No doubt. I am blaming Reagonomics, not Reagan. Reagan knew **** all about economics. He was influenced by people around him. As was the Congress.

 

[Indeependent]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

 

[hadit]

Pretending the president is the sole cause of economic problems is foolish.

No doubt. I am blaming Reagonomics, not Reagan. Reagan knew **** all about economics. He was influenced by people around him. As was the Congress.

So economists were responsible for the economic boom of the 80's and 90's? Good to know.

 

[Indeependent]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

Im happy to criticize many things that Dems do and say, I lean more on the conservative side when it comes to fiscal policy... But thats not what this thread is about nor does it matter in the least what my ratio of outrage directed between parties is. Thats a silly critique you are making.

 

[Indeependent]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

Im happy to criticize many things that Dems do and say, I lean more on the conservative side when it comes to fiscal policy... But thats not what this thread is about nor does it matter in the least what my ratio of outrage directed between parties is. Thats a silly critique you are making.

I can honestly say that 99% of the users here never really know what your Threads are about except to find a loophole for a D fuckup.
I'm waiting to see you criticize one thing the Ds have done.

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

Im happy to criticize many things that Dems do and say, I lean more on the conservative side when it comes to fiscal policy... But thats not what this thread is about nor does it matter in the least what my ratio of outrage directed between parties is. Thats a silly critique you are making.

I can honestly say that 99% of the users here never really know what your Threads are about except to find a loophole for a D fuckup.
I'm waiting to see you criticize one thing the Ds have done.

Perhaps I'm trying to make R's better by challenging the lame arguments and talking points they throw out there... Regardless the balance of focus of my ops and comments makes zero difference in a practical debate. If I make a point you agree with then agree if you don't then make a counter argument. Its that simple

 

[Slade3200]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

Im happy to criticize many things that Dems do and say, I lean more on the conservative side when it comes to fiscal policy... But thats not what this thread is about nor does it matter in the least what my ratio of outrage directed between parties is. Thats a silly critique you are making.

I can honestly say that 99% of the users here never really know what your Threads are about except to find a loophole for a D fuckup.
I'm waiting to see you criticize one thing the Ds have done.

Haha, that last comment of yours just hit me... You can honestly say that 99% of the users here never really know what my Threads are about?! hahahahaha... No you can't honestly say that because there is no way of you knowing how 99% of users here feel. You just shoot your objectivity in the foot when you say easily false hyperbolic statements like that. If you want to be taken seriously then tone down the partisan hyperbole and try and act like an intelligent adult.

 

[Indeependent]

What do you all think of Bidens answer to this question?

Debt is not cancelled, the payment is made by taxing the middle class.

Which tax?

The tax, retard, that will be created to pay back the investors who provided the money for the school loans.
Even if the loans came from tax money, the void in the payback will have to come from somewhere as public projects are financed years in advance.

Why am I a retard for asking a question that you can't even give a direct answer to... "The tax" is all you got? If you don't know which tax it is and can't give a real example then why is my question asking about it a retarded question?

Public projects are planned years in advance.
The payback of the loans was geared towards a general ledger entry meant as a future expenditure.

Right and this system has been in place for decades. You said the student loan payments are made by taxing the middle class. I was simply asking what specific tax that was, you still haven't answered that question.

Just like I knew about Cuomo's murder spree prior to any news coverage I also know many tax accountants and business owners.
Neither one of us knows the method by the city, state or fed will tax us to pay for those students education.
I realize that just as I did not know what was going on with the nursing home murders, I will expect you to reply that I don't know any accountants or business owners until the press finally admits that Biden has all 3 levels of government take an additional bite out of my paychecks.

So I ask what tax is being imposed on the middle class to pay for loans... you call my question retarded and then admit that nobody knows what tax is being used. Great debating with you!

How will anybody know until Congress addresses the issue?
Grow up; you’re too concrete.

Well you seemed to know...You said it would be a tax on the middle class. Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation. That’s not middle class. Though I haven’t heard what Bidens plan is... thought you knew from your earlier comments. Guess not

Sanders was gonna pay for his plan by taxing Wall Street speculation
With a 2,000 page plan.
Why don't you ask Sanders what the exact contents of that 2,000 plan will be after Congress gets done with it.
You see how it's impossible to mail anything down to details until it's done.

Yes I see how its impossible to nail anything down to details until it's done... which is why I questioned you making the claim that Biden would pay for student forgiveness loans by taxing the middle class.

Then start a Thread to question Sanders plan to tax corporations.
You live by double standards as you will never criticize what a Democrat says.
The money must be paid by someone.
If you invested in a federal government program expecting returns on your investment and you didn't get your money back, would you ever invest in that type of program ever again?
You won't ever admit that you wouldn't.

Im happy to criticize many things that Dems do and say, I lean more on the conservative side when it comes to fiscal policy... But thats not what this thread is about nor does it matter in the least what my ratio of outrage directed between parties is. Thats a silly critique you are making.

I can honestly say that 99% of the users here never really know what your Threads are about except to find a loophole for a D fuckup.
I'm waiting to see you criticize one thing the Ds have done.

Perhaps I'm trying to make R's better by challenging the lame arguments and talking points they throw out there... Regardless the balance of focus of my ops and comments makes zero difference in a practical debate. If I make a point you agree with then agree if you don't then make a counter argument. Its that simple

Which party votes to allow Trespassers, Business Visas and Off-Shoring to deprive these graduates of employment opportunities where they need their student loans forgiven?
I'll give you a hint...Both Parties.
Of course, I realize that you benefit from these 3 evils so you try to intellectualize the problem to some other areas of legislation.