New student-loan forgiveness under Trump is coming.

[dblack]

Why? Freedumb? Yep.

Yep. Freedom sucks!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I

Yep. Freedom sucks!

You know that isnt what I said or meant. Try to act normal for 5 minutes. Please.

 

[dblack]

You know that isnt what I said or meant. Try to act normal for 5 minutes. Please.

Then what did you mean? I see Dems mocking the idea of liberty all the time. Is it some kind of inside joke?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Then what did you mean? I see Dems mocking the idea of liberty all the time. Is it some kind of inside joke?

I mean duping people in the name of freedom. Causing them to make irrational decisions.

Like paying 20% of your income for health insurance, because paying 5% of your income for single payer insurance would "Violate ya freedumb!"

 

[Dekster]

Didn't the court shut down one of his plans?

Not completely yet. The missouri court issued an injunction but the case is still pending. Technically it issued two injunctions because they went back trying to get him to clarify it and he expanded its reach to all the plans that were created by rules making.

 

[dblack]

I mean duping people in the name of freedom. Causing them to make irrational decisions.

Like paying 20% of your income for health insurance, because paying 5% of your income for single payer insurance would "Violate ya freedumb!"

Ahh.. I see. Yes, some of us prefer freedom to have idiots like you decide for us. Sorry. Not sorry. We don't want government running health care.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, some of us prefer freedom to have idiots like you decide for us.

Right, because you are being irrational morons, in that particular case. I covered this. From the first.

I didnt really need a demonstration to make the point, but thanks, I guess.

 

[dblack]

Right, because you are being irrational morons, in that particular case. I covered this. From the first.

If only everyone would just acknowledge that Democrats Know Better™.

 

[Zebra]

Instead of student.loan I read student Joan

and once again

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If only everyone would just acknowledge that Democrats Know Better™.

Some people can just look at the mathematics and the outcomes, instead of obsessing over their pseudo libertarian both sidesism.

And some can't.

 

[dblack]

Some people can just look at the mathematics and the outcomes, instead of obsessing over their pseudo libertarian both sidesism.

And some can't.

And some just want to force their preferences on everyone else. Why can't you just mind your own ******* business? Why do you see government as a tool to bully people, people you're too chickenshit to confront yourself?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I doubt it actually ever happens or maybe .005 get help but it will be interesting to see MAGA come up with more excuses for their past positions.

No
What will be interesting is all of you ignoring when we would be just as against it then as with Biden before.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Those kids were virtually guaranteed a good paying job upon graduation, so there's that.

They were lied to by primarily Democrats and liberal educators.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And some just want to force their preferences on everyone else.

Personally, I want people to have access to Healthcare without going broke.

Now go on, spit out the 12 year old edge lord take on that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They were lied to by primarily Democrats and liberal educators.

A fine example of the dumb shit the right says.

 

[dblack]

Personally, I want people to have access to Healthcare without going broke.

And you want force them, via government mandate, to subscribe to your pet solution. How's about just minding your own business? People don't need busybodies like you trying to "help" them.

 

[BackAgain]

It actually goes back to Bush - student loan forgiveness for taking jobs in public service. Business Insider a slightly more literate RawStory type site.

If you mean just loan “forgiveness,” then maybe it did start w/ Bush.

But if we’re also discussing government involvement in student loans, that goes back a whole lot further.

 

[BackAgain]

And some just want to force their preferences on everyone else. Why can't you just mind your own ******* business? Why do you see government as a tool to bully people, people you're too chickenshit to confront yourself?

Along those lines: I felt this handy reference would be a good gift for this discussion.

It might help our liberals.

Freedom generally means the absence of external restraint — the ability to act, speak, or think without interference.

Liberty refers to freedom that is structured or protected by law — the condition of being free within a system of rights and responsibilities.

Summary:

Freedom is doing what you want; liberty is being free under just laws.

Lifted from an AI with some editing.

Also, I’m not 100% sure the definitions and distinctions are quite correct. (That “summary” is a bit too much simplified for accuracy.)

 

[Papageorgio]

And you want force them, via government mandate, to subscribe to your pet solution. How's about just minding your own business? People don't need busybodies like you trying to "help" them.

It’s this crazy that others that think they know best want to force everyone else to live the way they do. It shows a lack of humility amd self awareness, trait bad politicians have.

I am not understanding people wanting government to fix everything when it has been proven over and over that government doesn’t help, and inflates the cost and reduces success outcomes.

School, healthcare, student loans, are all issues caused by government and now they are getting more and more expensive and the results keep getting worse. We need solutions not government oversight.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And you want force them, via government mandate, to subscribe to your pet solution.

"My pet solution

It's mine? Strange, I thought it was the effective solution of every other modern economy.

Dude, I dont know what happened to your brain, but you sound insane. Maybe lower the dosage. Or up it?