Biden: On day one, I’ll send a bill to Congress creating a clear roadmap to citizenship for Dreamers and the 11 million undocumented people

[DBA]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

So why have borders if anyone can just walk over and become a citizen? How does that make sense? Even European Socialists countries understand this.

 

[Mr Natural]

Those lawns aren't going to mow themselves!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

If we did it would solve little of our problems. E-verify has had it's share of problems. It doesn't work because identity theft is a huge business in Mexico and the US. Drug lords are multi-millionaires and willing to put that money into technology to make it virtually impossible to identify some illegals.

 

[rightwinger]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

 

[bodecea]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

The rich want that cheap labor.....especially the Repubican big farm owners.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

 

[pknopp]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

If we did it would solve little of our problems. E-verify has had it's share of problems. It doesn't work because identity theft is a huge business in Mexico and the US. Drug lords are multi-millionaires and willing to put that money into technology to make it virtually impossible to identify some illegals.

LOL, e-verify doesn't work because we don't want it to work. This has been covered endlessly. If we wanted it to work it would work.

 

[pknopp]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

Not really. All the same if you are suggesting something that you know is not going to happen, it's not really a solution is it?

 

[Claudette]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

I'm sure you do. But that's a slap in the face to those who spent thousands of dollars and took years to become legal Americans. No way should illegals no matter how hard working they are be treated the same. I guess you don't know the meaning of the word Illegal either.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

RW, we allow a million people to become citizens every year as I just stated. The reason we have this limit is so people adopt to our culture, and we are not forced to adopt to theirs as we've been doing the last 20 years or so, mostly because of the illegals.

When I was a kid and even young adult, we had one language: English. That was it. And if you came here, you learned OUR language, we didn't learn yours.

Because of this mistake of not stopping them, you now have to hit a number on your phone to speak with another person in English. You have to hit buttons on your ATM machine to do the same. When you go to vote, they ask what language you want your ballot in.

They are changing America because they snuck in, and didn't assimilate into our language or culture. That needs to stop and make America great again.

 

[BluesLegend]

WOW Biden admits he's a traitor and threatens the American people with an invasion of millions of illegals, why hasn't he been arrested and tossed in jail?

 

[BluesLegend]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

RW, we allow a million people to become citizens every year as I just stated. The reason we have this limit is so people adopt to our culture, and we are not forced to adopt to theirs as we've been doing the last 20 years or so, mostly because of the illegals.

When I was a kid and even young adult, we had one language: English. That was it. And if you came here, you learned OUR language, we didn't learn yours.

Because of this mistake of not stopping them, you now have to hit a number on your phone to speak with another person in English. You have to hit buttons on your ATM machine to do the same. When you go to vote, they ask what language you want your ballot in.

They are changing America because they snuck in, and didn't assimilate into our language or culture. That needs to stop and make America great again.

Where is the left's compassion for the other 3 BILLION poor people in the world who want to come here. The answer is, Dems are only interested in just enough ILLEGALS to guarantee they can rig elections. Beyond that they don't give a crap about the poor.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

Not really. All the same if you are suggesting something that you know is not going to happen, it's not really a solution is it?

The only alternative is to allow the politicians to create solutions that we may not agree with. Perhaps they have people and aids that read blogs like USMB to get the feeling of what the public wants. Trump became President because he said he was going to get rid of the illegals and stop new ones from coming in. He was elected that way. Before he got into politics, he listened to people just like you and me. To hell with the polls, the rigged surveys. He did what he felt the American people wanted. And who knows, he may have some of his people reading USMB.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

RW, we allow a million people to become citizens every year as I just stated. The reason we have this limit is so people adopt to our culture, and we are not forced to adopt to theirs as we've been doing the last 20 years or so, mostly because of the illegals.

When I was a kid and even young adult, we had one language: English. That was it. And if you came here, you learned OUR language, we didn't learn yours.

Because of this mistake of not stopping them, you now have to hit a number on your phone to speak with another person in English. You have to hit buttons on your ATM machine to do the same. When you go to vote, they ask what language you want your ballot in.

They are changing America because they snuck in, and didn't assimilate into our language or culture. That needs to stop and make America great again.

Where is the left's compassion for the other 3 BILLION poor people in the world who want to come here. The answer is, Dems are only interested in just enough ILLEGALS to guarantee they can rig elections. Beyond that they don't give a crap about the poor.

To some degree, you are correct. But the big picture is to make white people a minority ASAP for the first time in our history. That's their real goal. Because if they can get rid of us whites, they will have the ability to create a single-party government forever. Nobody would be able to come close to them.

 

[BluesLegend]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

RW, we allow a million people to become citizens every year as I just stated. The reason we have this limit is so people adopt to our culture, and we are not forced to adopt to theirs as we've been doing the last 20 years or so, mostly because of the illegals.

When I was a kid and even young adult, we had one language: English. That was it. And if you came here, you learned OUR language, we didn't learn yours.

Because of this mistake of not stopping them, you now have to hit a number on your phone to speak with another person in English. You have to hit buttons on your ATM machine to do the same. When you go to vote, they ask what language you want your ballot in.

They are changing America because they snuck in, and didn't assimilate into our language or culture. That needs to stop and make America great again.

Where is the left's compassion for the other 3 BILLION poor people in the world who want to come here. The answer is, Dems are only interested in just enough ILLEGALS to guarantee they can rig elections. Beyond that they don't give a crap about the poor.

To some degree, you are correct. But the big picture is to make white people a minority ASAP for the first time in our history. That's their real goal. Because if they can get rid of us whites, they will have the ability to create a single-party government forever. Nobody would be able to come close to them.

There will be civil war before that day comes and the surviving leftist scum will flee for their lives to Canada.

 

[Likkmee]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

If you ever stayed in a $750 a night resort near Mexico city and took a limo everywhere you went you'd fully understand his position. It's awesome ! Montego Bay is GREAT too.So are Rio and Buenos Aires. So is an African Safari with a $500/day guide and AC. It's similar to the way he "tours" Detroit and Chicago.
MATA !

 

[pknopp]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

Not really. All the same if you are suggesting something that you know is not going to happen, it's not really a solution is it?

The only alternative is to allow the politicians to create solutions that we may not agree with. Perhaps they have people and aids that read blogs like USMB to get the feeling of what the public wants. Trump became President because he said he was going to get rid of the illegals and stop new ones from coming in. He was elected that way. Before he got into politics, he listened to people just like you and me. To hell with the polls, the rigged surveys. He did what he felt the American people wanted. And who knows, he may have some of his people reading USMB.

They do not care what we want. They only care about what corporations want and corporations want the cheap labor. Corporations want the millions of those here illegally as consumers. Corporations don't want to pay the taxes that legal employees would cost them.

And we defend them while pretending we want something different.

 

[BluesLegend]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Only common sense solution

What is wrong with good, hard working people becoming citizens?

There is nothing wrong with that. It's why we allow a million foreigners a year TO become citizens here. No other industrialized country in the world is as generous to foreigners as we are.

If an undocumented worker works hard, pays taxes and obeys the law, I have no problem providing them documentation and eventual citizenship.

They make great Americans

Some do and some don't, just like any other group of people. You don't get a free pass because you work hard. A lot of people work hard. If you want to get into this country, you wait in line like all the other people who became citizens.

I don’t have a problem with denying citizenship to those who don’t.
We have an estimated 11 million undocumented aliens in this country.
I have no problem documenting them, having them on the books and paying taxes and eventually having them become Americans

RW, we allow a million people to become citizens every year as I just stated. The reason we have this limit is so people adopt to our culture, and we are not forced to adopt to theirs as we've been doing the last 20 years or so, mostly because of the illegals.

When I was a kid and even young adult, we had one language: English. That was it. And if you came here, you learned OUR language, we didn't learn yours.

Because of this mistake of not stopping them, you now have to hit a number on your phone to speak with another person in English. You have to hit buttons on your ATM machine to do the same. When you go to vote, they ask what language you want your ballot in.

They are changing America because they snuck in, and didn't assimilate into our language or culture. That needs to stop and make America great again.

Where is the left's compassion for the other 3 BILLION poor people in the world who want to come here. The answer is, Dems are only interested in just enough ILLEGALS to guarantee they can rig elections. Beyond that they don't give a crap about the poor.

To some degree, you are correct. But the big picture is to make white people a minority ASAP for the first time in our history. That's their real goal. Because if they can get rid of us whites, they will have the ability to create a single-party government forever. Nobody would be able to come close to them.

There will be civil war before that day comes and the surviving leftist scum will flee for their lives to Canada.

On that note if you look at an animated map of the world over the past 300 years at how borders and empires have changed, assuming the USA will stay in tact as one country over the long term seems unlikely. We already fought a civil war which resolved nothing. Instead of agreeing to live apart one side defeated the other. Here we are again. The left is hell bent on destroying the right and forcing us to live under their world view. The right is equally hell bent on not living under the bootheel of the leftist fascists. So something has got to give at some point.

 

[iceberg]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

Not really. All the same if you are suggesting something that you know is not going to happen, it's not really a solution is it?

well you know nothing is going to come out of a handful of wingnuts storming an office building, but you root them on just the same.

 

[iceberg]

Thanks Joe, for making the contrast with Trump even more clearer. Rewarding criminality: It’s the Democrat way.

Bravo for Joe!

It's the right thing to do.

Guess you missed the word illegal.

Its already been done and just made things worse.

Most Americans want all illegals out of the country. Biden wouldn't be making many friends with his plans and since he stated them how many do you think will vote for his stupid ass??

I'd bet not many. No Americans want illegals turned into citizens. They want them out of the country and they also want to save the billions of tax dollars these illegals cost we the tax payer.

Hope Joe shouts his plans from the rooftop. What a moron he is.

If most American's wanted that it would happen. If most American's wanted that they would be protesting to get things like e-verify made mandatory with strong repercussions for any business caught not participating.

Is that going to happen? No. We do not want to pay the cost.

Hell. They already have laws on the books but most of them are ignored. Anyone hiring illegals should be prosecuted but don't hold your breath for that to happen. Doesn't negate the fact that most Americans want all illegals out of our country and those that are here legally hate the illegals.

No, most do not want anything done. They do not want to pay the costs.

I disagree. These illegals cost us billions every year. That's billions with a B.

We are 27 trillion in debt. No one is paying that. You will pay though if all the illegals left. Why complain about something you are unwilling to even pay for?

As for myself, I'm willing to pay anything to get rid of them. I've said for the longest time we need a consumption tax that targets our debt exclusively; perhaps 10 cents on the dollar. Illegals and aliens cost us more than we get back from them. They come here, work, send their money back over the border, and then move back and live the good life with our money. The legal foreigners have a higher percentage of their people on the public dole than us citizens. If you're going to worry about money and debt, foreigners are the first place to start looking for the problem.

That's fine but you also know it isn't going to happen.

A lot of things discussed on USMB are not going to happen, but we come here to have debates on solutions to our problems.

Not really. All the same if you are suggesting something that you know is not going to happen, it's not really a solution is it?

The only alternative is to allow the politicians to create solutions that we may not agree with. Perhaps they have people and aids that read blogs like USMB to get the feeling of what the public wants. Trump became President because he said he was going to get rid of the illegals and stop new ones from coming in. He was elected that way. Before he got into politics, he listened to people just like you and me. To hell with the polls, the rigged surveys. He did what he felt the American people wanted. And who knows, he may have some of his people reading USMB.

They do not care what we want. They only care about what corporations want and corporations want the cheap labor. Corporations want the millions of those here illegally as consumers. Corporations don't want to pay the taxes that legal employees would cost them.

And we defend them while pretending we want something different.

and you defend those using violence as an ends to a means. lets not pretend you want anything other than violence, shall we?

your rules and all.