Biden: On day one, I’ll send a bill to Congress creating a clear roadmap to citizenship for Dreamers and the 11 million undocumented people

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We have that now. Nothing is stopping adults from being deported. Outside of the fact that business doesn't want that.
If you grant a pathway to citizenship to illegal alien dreamers the adults can return and stay also

dreamers should get a green card and permanent residence

which allows them to stay in America for life but NOT citizenship ever
Fine with me but that's really not the issue. The issue is politicians that are bought by business and lie to us.
 

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We have that now. Nothing is stopping adults from being deported. Outside of the fact that business doesn't want that.
If you grant a pathway to citizenship to illegal alien dreamers the adults can return and stay also

dreamers should get a green card and permanent residence

which allows them to stay in America for life but NOT citizenship ever
The problem with that is it's a stepping stone for Democrats. Of course they want them as citizens. Otherwise they are useless to them if they can't vote. Step one is what you described. When they get enough power, the next step is to make them all automatic citizens.
 

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The Dreamers are already full grown adults, fully educated and already PART of the tax paying middle class. Many are married and own homes. You're throwing out over 30,000 health care workers that YOU have already trained. Damn skippy we'll take them!!
The more you indicate they are "fully educated" and are "health care workers", and "own homes", the more you confirm that they are taking education opportunities away from Americans, taking jobs away from Americans, and taking housing away from Americans. Deport them.
She's making stuff up off the top of her head. She has no reliable source to what she claims. I'm sure most are not educated, and some may not even know our language yet. They are here working jobs Americans should be working, especially now that our unemployment rate is at 10% according to July's figures.
 

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The Dreamers are already full grown adults, fully educated and already PART of the tax paying middle class. Many are married and own homes. You're throwing out over 30,000 health care workers that YOU have already trained. Damn skippy we'll take them!!
The more you indicate they are "fully educated" and are "health care workers", and "own homes", the more you confirm that they are taking education opportunities away from Americans, taking jobs away from Americans, and taking housing away from Americans. Deport them.
She's making stuff up off the top of her head. She has no reliable source to what she claims. I'm sure most are not educated, and some may not even know our language yet. They are here working jobs Americans should be working, especially now that our unemployment rate is at 10% according to July's figures.
You should know by now Ray, that I DON'T POST THINGS I CAN'T BACK UP WITH BOTH GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA SOURCES.



According to USCIS, DREAMers may request consideration if they:
1. Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
2. Came to the United States before reaching their 16th birthday;
3. Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
4. Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
5. Entered without inspection before June 15, 2012, or their lawful immigration status expired as of June 15, 2012;
6. Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
7. Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.
You have to be over the age of 15 to apply. Those who were under just under the age of 31 in June of 2012, are now close to 40, and those who were 15, are now 23 and finishing college. 6 and 7 are critical - educated and law abiding.

Even though he has been ordered by the courts to continue the program, Trump has not accepted any new applications, so these kids are adults, most of whom are now working and contibuting to society.

And since you already have shortages of medical staff and nurses, deporting 30,000 of the trained, employed and tax paying nurses, doctors and health care workers you NEED during a pandemic when you're already short staffed, shows how stupid deporting any of these kids really are.

Highly educated workers aren't the ones who are unemployed. It the workers who didn't go to school who can't find work. These kids are CONTRIBUTING members of your society.
 
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The Dreamers are already full grown adults, fully educated and already PART of the tax paying middle class. Many are married and own homes. You're throwing out over 30,000 health care workers that YOU have already trained. Damn skippy we'll take them!!
The more you indicate they are "fully educated" and are "health care workers", and "own homes", the more you confirm that they are taking education opportunities away from Americans, taking jobs away from Americans, and taking housing away from Americans. Deport them.
She's making stuff up off the top of her head. She has no reliable source to what she claims. I'm sure most are not educated, and some may not even know our language yet. They are here working jobs Americans should be working, especially now that our unemployment rate is at 10% according to July's figures.
You should know by now Ray, that I DON'T POST THINGS I CAN'T BACK UP WITH BOTH GOVERNMENT AND MEDIA SOURCES.



According to USCIS, DREAMers may request consideration if they:
1. Were under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012;
2. Came to the United States before reaching their 16th birthday;
3. Have continuously resided in the United States since June 15, 2007, up to the present time;
4. Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS;
5. Entered without inspection before June 15, 2012, or their lawful immigration status expired as of June 15, 2012;
6. Are currently in school, have graduated or obtained a certificate of completion from high school, have obtained a general education development (GED) certificate, or are an honorably discharged veteran of the Coast Guard or Armed Forces of the United States; and
7. Have not been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor, three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety.
You have to be over the age of 15 to apply. Those who were under just under the age of 31 in June of 2012, are now close to 40, and those who were 15, are now 23 and finishing college. 6 and 7 are critical - educated and law abiding.

Even though he has been ordered by the courts to continue the program, Trump has not accepted any new applications, so these kids are adults, most of whom are now working and contibuting to society.

And since you already have shortages of medical staff and nurses, deporting 30,000 of the trained, employed and tax paying nurses, doctors and health care workers you NEED during a pandemic when you're already short staffed, shows how stupid deporting any of these kids really are.

Highly educated workers aren't the ones who are unemployed. It the workers who didn't go to school who can't find work. These kids are CONTRIBUTING members of your society.
Well you're still not backing up a thing. Your NYT article stated most of them were working Burger King jobs, sales or office work. No category for medical in that article. Your second article only showed the demographics of DACA people, but nothing about college, jobs or anything. Just their age, gender, states they live and things like that. All it really says is they have better jobs than illegals in many cases, and that's not saying a whole hell of a lot.
 

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