Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

[night_son]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S."


What country are we living in again? Since when can the President of these United States "come out" with new "rules"? The ability to build one's own firearm, legally, is a fundamental foundation of practicing one's Second Amendment rights, and it is a legal method to firearm ownership without fear of ending up on a state or federal firearms registration list or in some illegal government database. What say you?

 

[1srelluc]

If that is the case he is going to run afoul of the "vagueness doctrine" rule. It basically states that a agency can not make new rules because something in the old one was vague without congress revamping the whole thing.

The vagueness doctrine is a constitutional rule that requires criminal laws to provide a clear definition.

In this instance if there is a criminal penalty for marking/possessing a so-called ghost gun that goes against the new "interpretation" then that is against the doctrine.

Of course the dems know this but it will take years to sort out.

 

[toobfreak]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days​

Good ol' Joe tackling all of the BIG problems for his twisted base while America burns and there are 40,000 other things far more important.

 

[jknowgood]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S."


What country are we living in again? Since when can the President of these United States "come out" with new "rules"? The ability to build one's own firearm, legally, is a fundamental foundation of practicing one's Second Amendment rights, and it is a legal method to firearm ownership without fear of ending up on a state or federal firearms registration list or in some illegal government database. What say you?

Biden might beat Obama's record on gun sales! Go boy!

 

[JGalt]

They're calling everything without a serial number a "ghost gun." Sure they've recovered some actual "ghost guns" from crime scenes, but they're not as prevalent as the fearmongering media would like us to believe.

In Chicago, for example, only 139 out of the 11,258 firearms seized in 2020 were actual ghost guns. Many of the other ones seized, just had their serial numbers filed off. Criminals have been doing this ever since serial numbers were first put on firearms.

 

[task0778]

Biden can issue executive orders all he wants to, but the SCOTUS can rule any of them to be unconstitutional. So, he can do whatever he wants to, but it ain't going to save his party from a richly deserved asskicking in November, nor his party losing the WH in 2024. I always thought every EO had to be rooted in law that can be interpreted to his liking, but I can't think of any law that he can use as a basis for this action.

 

[Flash]

The great, great majority of gun crimes in this country are cheap hand guns by inner city street thugs shooting one another.

What the hell these stupid Moon Bats call "ghost guns" are hardly ever used in a crime.

Typical of Joe Potatohead he doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about.

Typical of these stupid Democrats they are infringing on the right to keep and bear arms for no legitimate reason whatsoever.

Keeping Negros in jail will do more to stop gun crime in this country than any infringement upon the right to keep and bear arms. But Democrats won't do that, will they?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S."


What country are we living in again? Since when can the President of these United States "come out" with new "rules"? The ability to build one's own firearm, legally, is a fundamental foundation of practicing one's Second Amendment rights, and it is a legal method to firearm ownership without fear of ending up on a state or federal firearms registration list or in some illegal government database. What say you?

It seems self-evident to me that “the people's right to keep and bear arms” must necessarily include related rights on which the explicit right is dependent, to buy, sell, manufacture, and trade arms, and that to infringe on any of these is as blatantly unconstitutional as infringing on the right to own, possess, or carry arms.

What good, after all, is a right to keep and bear arms, if government can legally prevent you from acquiring those arms in the first place?


Now, aside from what the government is legally allowed to do, and what it should legally be allowed to do, the point of “ghost guns” is that government is powerless to stop anyone from actually manufacturing a gun.

Guns aren't exactly high-tech devices. It's always been possible for anyone with some basic machine tools and related skills to make a gun; and there is literally nothing that government can do to stop it. With modern technology, such as 3D printing, it's even easier, and government is even more powerless to stop it.

This website, from over a decade ago, contains information on how to build a submachine gun using easily-obtained parts and hardware.

The Home Gunsmith

In these days of increasingly oppressive anti-gun policies and almost police state politics ... it has never been more important for the aware citizen to know how a working firearm is constructed.

thehomegunsmith.com

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S."


What country are we living in again? Since when can the President of these United States "come out" with new "rules"? The ability to build one's own firearm, legally, is a fundamental foundation of practicing one's Second Amendment rights, and it is a legal method to firearm ownership without fear of ending up on a state or federal firearms registration list or in some illegal government database. What say you?

Just closing a loophole...no real changes--this helps ensure that guns stay out of the hands of felons, crazies and crackpots:

MSN

President Joe Biden will announce new federal regulations on Monday to rein in the use of untraceable firearms known as ghost guns that law-enforcement officers say are turning up frequently at crime scenes across the country.
The new rules, which Biden and Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco will announce during a Rose Garden ceremony, will target privately made firearms that can be assembled from do-it-yourself kits purchased online or in a store. The weapons contain no serial number, which makes it difficult to trace the owner.
Senior administration officials, who briefed reporters ahead of Biden’s announcement, said Sunday the new rules will clarify that the unfinished parts sold in the kits, such as the frame of a handgun or the receiver of a long gun, will qualify as firearms under federal law.
Commercial manufacturers of the kits will have to be licensed and must add serial numbers on the kits’ frame or receiver. Commercial sellers of the kits also will have to become licensed and will be required to run background checks on potential buyers prior to a sale, just like they must do with commercially made firearms.

 

[SavannahMann]

Biden expected to release rule on ghost guns in days

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Biden administration will come out with its long-awaited ghost gun rule — aimed at reining in privately made firearms without serial numbers that are increasingly cropping up at crime scenes — as soon as Monday, three people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

Completion of the rule comes as the White House and the Justice Department have been under growing pressure to crack down on gun deaths and violent crime in the U.S."


What country are we living in again? Since when can the President of these United States "come out" with new "rules"? The ability to build one's own firearm, legally, is a fundamental foundation of practicing one's Second Amendment rights, and it is a legal method to firearm ownership without fear of ending up on a state or federal firearms registration list or in some illegal government database. What say you?

What we need is a good Republican. Like Trump. Because he would never do anything like this.

Federal bump stock ban set to go into effect Tuesday even as gun-rights group appeals regulation to Supreme Court

A national ban on bump stocks is set to go into effect Tuesday, even as one of the gun-rights groups fighting the ban moved Monday to appeal the regulation to the U.S. Supreme Court.

www.cnbc.com

Well shit. Never mind.

 

[Seymour Flops]

What you should know about ghost guns as Biden announces new regulation

President Joe Biden on Monday announced new steps aimed at regulating so-called "ghost guns," as use of the untraceable, homemade weapons in violent crimes rises.

www.cnn.com

​

What ghost guns are​

Ghost guns are untraceable, self-assembled firearms, often put together with parts sold online, sometimes in as little as 30 minutes.


Growing ghost gun problem adds to America's violence woes
The weapons, sometimes referred to by officials as "privately made firearms," or PMFs, do not have serial numbers, making them all the more difficult to track and regulate.
Purchasing kits to build ghost guns online does not require a background check, so buyers can sidestep the typical requirements that might come with buying a firearm.
This means anyone -- no matter their age or criminal record -- can buy the kits and assemble a weapon.

As evidence of what is happening "in America," CNN cites San Francisco, New York and Chicago. Of course.

In San Francisco, for example, about 20% of the nearly 1,100 guns it seized in 2021 were ghost guns, police there told CNN.
And New York is on pace to again shatter the previous year's total, according to data shared with CNN. Since the start of this year, the NYPD has recovered 163 ghost guns, compared to 29 over the same period in 2021, mayor Eric Adams said Monday.
In 2021, New York authorities seized 4,497 firearms -- 375, or 8.33%, were ghost guns.
Of the 12,088 guns recovered in Chicago last year, 455, or 3.76%, were ghost guns, according to data from the city, up from 130 ghost guns recovered in 2020, when ghost guns made up 1.15% of the 11,343 guns recovered.

Of course, those were percentages of guns "recovered," i.e. confiscated by government. No data nor even anecdotal examples of these scary ghost guns being used in crimes. But they scare libs, so Biden is determined to do something. What, exactly?

The new rules require anyone purchasing a kit to undergo a background check, which is required for other kinds of firearm purchases. Those selling kits will also be required to include a serial number on the components that make up the weapon, so the eventual firearm can be traced.
Additionally, the new rules mandate firearm dealers add a serial number to already-assembled ghost guns they come across.
"It's no longer a ghost," Biden said in the Rose Garden on Monday. "It has a return address. And it's going to help save lives, reduce crime and get more criminals off the streets."

Really? Is that happening now with guns that already have serial numbers? Police recover a firearm used in a crime, read the serial number and look up the "return address," then go arrest the criminal?

Can anyone provide examples and stats about that actually happening? Where do police look up that "return address," there being a law against maintaining a federal firearms registry?

Libs?

 

[miketx]

 

[Ropey]

Hunter to crack down...

...on crack, of course.

Daddy?

 

[night_son]

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Is that a banana clip or are you just glad to see us?

 

[ozro]

I wonder how many people have just heard of a crime committed with a 'ghost gun'.

I wonder how many people have heard of someone in their community who died of an overdose.

Gee, I wonder which number is larger......

 

[night_son]

What you should know about ghost guns as Biden announces new regulation

President Joe Biden on Monday announced new steps aimed at regulating so-called "ghost guns," as use of the untraceable, homemade weapons in violent crimes rises.

www.cnn.com

​

What ghost guns are​

Ghost guns are untraceable, self-assembled firearms, often put together with parts sold online, sometimes in as little as 30 minutes.

Growing ghost gun problem adds to America's violence woes
The weapons, sometimes referred to by officials as "privately made firearms," or PMFs, do not have serial numbers, making them all the more difficult to track and regulate.
Purchasing kits to build ghost guns online does not require a background check, so buyers can sidestep the typical requirements that might come with buying a firearm.
This means anyone -- no matter their age or criminal record -- can buy the kits and assemble a weapon.

As evidence of what is happening "in America," CNN cites San Francisco, New York and Chicago. Of course.

In San Francisco, for example, about 20% of the nearly 1,100 guns it seized in 2021 were ghost guns, police there told CNN.
And New York is on pace to again shatter the previous year's total, according to data shared with CNN. Since the start of this year, the NYPD has recovered 163 ghost guns, compared to 29 over the same period in 2021, mayor Eric Adams said Monday.
In 2021, New York authorities seized 4,497 firearms -- 375, or 8.33%, were ghost guns.
Of the 12,088 guns recovered in Chicago last year, 455, or 3.76%, were ghost guns, according to data from the city, up from 130 ghost guns recovered in 2020, when ghost guns made up 1.15% of the 11,343 guns recovered.

Of course, those were percentages of guns "recovered," i.e. confiscated by government. No data nor even anecdotal examples of these scary ghost guns being used in crimes. But they scare libs, so Biden is determined to do something. What, exactly?

The new rules require anyone purchasing a kit to undergo a background check, which is required for other kinds of firearm purchases. Those selling kits will also be required to include a serial number on the components that make up the weapon, so the eventual firearm can be traced.
Additionally, the new rules mandate firearm dealers add a serial number to already-assembled ghost guns they come across.
"It's no longer a ghost," Biden said in the Rose Garden on Monday. "It has a return address. And it's going to help save lives, reduce crime and get more criminals off the streets."

Really? Is that happening now with guns that already have serial numbers? Police recover a firearm used in a crime, read the serial number and look up the "return address," then go arrest the criminal?

Can anyone provide examples and stats about that actually happening? Where do police look up that "return address," there being a law against maintaining a federal firearms registry?

Libs?

The government can't really stand guns in citizens' hands they can't track. That being said, the eighty percent do it in your own garage lower craze sure did go unregulated for a very long time. Funny that.

 

[blackhawk]

This is standard political theatre put on a show to look like you are dealing with a problem when your really not.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

What you should know about ghost guns as Biden announces new regulation

President Joe Biden on Monday announced new steps aimed at regulating so-called "ghost guns," as use of the untraceable, homemade weapons in violent crimes rises.

www.cnn.com

​

What ghost guns are​

Ghost guns are untraceable, self-assembled firearms, often put together with parts sold online, sometimes in as little as 30 minutes.

Growing ghost gun problem adds to America's violence woes
The weapons, sometimes referred to by officials as "privately made firearms," or PMFs, do not have serial numbers, making them all the more difficult to track and regulate.
Purchasing kits to build ghost guns online does not require a background check, so buyers can sidestep the typical requirements that might come with buying a firearm.
This means anyone -- no matter their age or criminal record -- can buy the kits and assemble a weapon.

As evidence of what is happening "in America," CNN cites San Francisco, New York and Chicago. Of course.

In San Francisco, for example, about 20% of the nearly 1,100 guns it seized in 2021 were ghost guns, police there told CNN.
And New York is on pace to again shatter the previous year's total, according to data shared with CNN. Since the start of this year, the NYPD has recovered 163 ghost guns, compared to 29 over the same period in 2021, mayor Eric Adams said Monday.
In 2021, New York authorities seized 4,497 firearms -- 375, or 8.33%, were ghost guns.
Of the 12,088 guns recovered in Chicago last year, 455, or 3.76%, were ghost guns, according to data from the city, up from 130 ghost guns recovered in 2020, when ghost guns made up 1.15% of the 11,343 guns recovered.

Of course, those were percentages of guns "recovered," i.e. confiscated by government. No data nor even anecdotal examples of these scary ghost guns being used in crimes. But they scare libs, so Biden is determined to do something. What, exactly?

The new rules require anyone purchasing a kit to undergo a background check, which is required for other kinds of firearm purchases. Those selling kits will also be required to include a serial number on the components that make up the weapon, so the eventual firearm can be traced.
Additionally, the new rules mandate firearm dealers add a serial number to already-assembled ghost guns they come across.
"It's no longer a ghost," Biden said in the Rose Garden on Monday. "It has a return address. And it's going to help save lives, reduce crime and get more criminals off the streets."

Really? Is that happening now with guns that already have serial numbers? Police recover a firearm used in a crime, read the serial number and look up the "return address," then go arrest the criminal?

Can anyone provide examples and stats about that actually happening? Where do police look up that "return address," there being a law against maintaining a federal firearms registry?

Libs?

Of course instead of going after the DA's who are allowing the savages to be released from prison and using the "GHOST" guns, we cant do that, might make Joe look like the racist he really is.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What you should know about ghost guns as Biden announces new regulation

President Joe Biden on Monday announced new steps aimed at regulating so-called "ghost guns," as use of the untraceable, homemade weapons in violent crimes rises.

www.cnn.com

​

What ghost guns are​

Ghost guns are untraceable, self-assembled firearms, often put together with parts sold online, sometimes in as little as 30 minutes.

Growing ghost gun problem adds to America's violence woes
The weapons, sometimes referred to by officials as "privately made firearms," or PMFs, do not have serial numbers, making them all the more difficult to track and regulate.
Purchasing kits to build ghost guns online does not require a background check, so buyers can sidestep the typical requirements that might come with buying a firearm.
This means anyone -- no matter their age or criminal record -- can buy the kits and assemble a weapon.

As evidence of what is happening "in America," CNN cites San Francisco, New York and Chicago. Of course.

In San Francisco, for example, about 20% of the nearly 1,100 guns it seized in 2021 were ghost guns, police there told CNN.
And New York is on pace to again shatter the previous year's total, according to data shared with CNN. Since the start of this year, the NYPD has recovered 163 ghost guns, compared to 29 over the same period in 2021, mayor Eric Adams said Monday.
In 2021, New York authorities seized 4,497 firearms -- 375, or 8.33%, were ghost guns.
Of the 12,088 guns recovered in Chicago last year, 455, or 3.76%, were ghost guns, according to data from the city, up from 130 ghost guns recovered in 2020, when ghost guns made up 1.15% of the 11,343 guns recovered.

Of course, those were percentages of guns "recovered," i.e. confiscated by government. No data nor even anecdotal examples of these scary ghost guns being used in crimes. But they scare libs, so Biden is determined to do something. What, exactly?

The new rules require anyone purchasing a kit to undergo a background check, which is required for other kinds of firearm purchases. Those selling kits will also be required to include a serial number on the components that make up the weapon, so the eventual firearm can be traced.
Additionally, the new rules mandate firearm dealers add a serial number to already-assembled ghost guns they come across.
"It's no longer a ghost," Biden said in the Rose Garden on Monday. "It has a return address. And it's going to help save lives, reduce crime and get more criminals off the streets."

Really? Is that happening now with guns that already have serial numbers? Police recover a firearm used in a crime, read the serial number and look up the "return address," then go arrest the criminal?

Can anyone provide examples and stats about that actually happening? Where do police look up that "return address," there being a law against maintaining a federal firearms registry?

Libs?

Not sure exactly where you got your data but criminals do not buy 80% lowers and the drill press and tools needed to build a firearm. They steal them.

 

[miketx]

Not sure exactly where you got your data but criminals do not buy 80% lowers and the drill press and tools needed to build a firearm. They steal them.

He's just another commie liar.