Zone1 Better understanding of "fulfilled".

[Woodznutz]

Many struggle over these words of Jesus.


Matthew 5:17-19
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. / For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

Substitute the term finished for fulfilled and accomplished for a better understanding.

"It is finished." -words of Jesus on the cross.

 

[BreezeWood]

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

- written in the book of forgeries lies and fallacies - the 4th century christian bible.

and that's why in conclusion of the 1st century events they murdered jesus ...

those events were in fact the repudiation of judaism, false commandments the liars moses abraham et al as the true agenda, liberation theology, self determination for all beings is no where found in the jewish christian bible.

 

[Woodznutz]

- written in the book of forgeries lies and fallacies - the 4th century christian bible.

and that's why in conclusion of the 1st century events they murdered jesus ...

those events were in fact the repudiation of judaism, false commandments the liars moses abraham et al as the true agenda, liberation theology, self determination for all beings is no where found in the jewish christian bible.

I agree that the church has moved on from a lot of that, but it's still valid history.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Many struggle over these words of Jesus.


Matthew 5:17-19
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. / For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."

Substitute the term finished for fulfilled and accomplished for a better understanding.

"It is finished." -words of Jesus on the cross.

Did heaven and earth PASS AWAY? If so, I hadn't noticed

 

[Woodznutz]

Did heaven and earth PASS AWAY? If so, I hadn't noticed

He said heaven and earth will only pass away after everything in the Law was accomplished. He accomplished everything in the Law. Now heaven and earth can pass away, according to God's plan.

 

[ding]

- written in the book of forgeries lies and fallacies - the 4th century christian bible.

and that's why in conclusion of the 1st century events they murdered jesus ...

those events were in fact the repudiation of judaism, false commandments the liars moses abraham et al as the true agenda, liberation theology, self determination for all beings is no where found in the jewish christian bible.

Are Moses and Abraham in hell?

Or are they equal to you in heaven?

 

[ding]

Did heaven and earth PASS AWAY? If so, I hadn't noticed

Each Gospel presents Jesus as fulfilling rather than abolishing the Law (Torah/Prophets), often by elevating its intent over legalistic interpretation. Matthew emphasizes completing the law, while Mark, Luke, and John show Jesus redefining or replacing specific Mosaic laws (Sabbath, dietary laws, temple) with his own authority and sacrifice.

• Matthew (5:17–20): Explicitly states Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or Prophets but to "fulfill" them, suggesting the Law remains valid until "all is accomplished" (his life/death). He magnifies the law by teaching its heart-intent (e.g., against anger, not just murder).
• Mark (2:23–3:6): Shows Jesus reinterpreting the Law, specifically the Sabbath ("The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath"). It positions Jesus as "Lord of the Sabbath," authority over Mosaic restrictions, leading to opposition from religious leaders.
• Luke (16:16-17): Similar to Matthew, Luke highlights that "it is easier for heaven and earth to pass than for one tittle of the law to fail" (16:17), yet states the Law was in force "until John". Luke implies a transition from the Law to the Gospel of the Kingdom.
• John (1:17, 8:5): Focuses on "grace and truth" coming through Jesus, replacing the law given through Moses. John highlights Jesus replacing purification rituals (water turned into wine) and the temple itself, fulfilling the law through his own death and resurrection.

Key Takeaway: Jesus "abolishes" the law only in the sense of ending the Old Covenant's function as a strict legal code, replacing it with his own authority, spirit, and fulfillment. He did not, however, treat it as irrelevant or invalid until he perfectly fulfilled it.

 

[Woodznutz]

• Matthew (5:17–20): Explicitly states Jesus did not come to abolish the Law or Prophets but to "fulfill" them, suggesting the Law remains valid until "all is accomplished" (his life/death). He magnifies the law by teaching its heart-intent (e.g., against anger, not just murder).

By magnifying the law Jesus is saying that one can keep the law outwardly but break it inwardly. It's the same law, and not the 'spirit' of the law that some assume. The true spirit of the law is the antithesis of the law.

Old covenant: Abstain from evil.
New covenant: Do what is good.

There is nothing in the Law (the commandments) that adjures one to do good.

However, the points of the commandments basically cover most of the sins one commits and is a tool for self-examination when a person commits to repentance. These behaviors are what a called-out person leaves behind.