Bernie op-ed: We must do everything possible to avoid an enormously destructive war in Ukraine

[basquebromance]

where are the anti-war protests? an op-ed won't do the trick

We must do everything possible to avoid an enormously destructive war in Ukraine | Bernie Sanders

I’m concerned when I hear familiar drumbeats in Washington demanding we ‘show strength’, when we’re faced with what could be the worst European war in 75 years

www.theguardian.com

 

[marvin martian]

where are the anti-war protests? an op-ed won't do the trick

We must do everything possible to avoid an enormously destructive war in Ukraine | Bernie Sanders

I’m concerned when I hear familiar drumbeats in Washington demanding we ‘show strength’, when we’re faced with what could be the worst European war in 75 years

www.theguardian.com

Yet Bernie caucuses with the War Party. He's just looking for a handout. It is election season, after all. That's when Bernie makes the big bucks.

 

[Oddball]

It's shit like this that got him cheated out of the nomination twice.

 

[White 6]

It's shit like this that got him cheated out of the nomination twice.

You sure it was not his position and record as an avowed, even self-proclaimed socialist? Anybody wanting pure socialism here? Not me.

 

[pknopp]

Yet Bernie caucuses with the War Party. He's just looking for a handout. It is election season, after all. That's when Bernie makes the big bucks.

Both parties are war parties.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

What does he propose we do? We no longer have a capable military.

 

[Oddball]

You sure it was not his position and record as an avowed, even self-proclaimed socialist? Anybody wanting pure socialism here? Not me.

No....The DNC is brimming with socialists....Socialists who love them some Wilsonian interventionist foreign wars, that is.

 

[White 6]

No....The DNC is brimming with socialists....Socialists who love them some Wilsonian interventionist foreign wars, that is.

I take it, you favor a Neville Chamberlain go along to get along mindset. How did that work out, again. Some people forget.

 

[WinterBorn]

You sure it was not his position and record as an avowed, even self-proclaimed socialist? Anybody wanting pure socialism here? Not me.

Even Bernie does not want "pure socialism".

 

[WinterBorn]

Does no one remember when the Ukraine had so many nukes they were the 3rd largest nuclear power on the planet?

And they gave them all up in exchange for promises of protection? We, among other nations, promised to aid them if they were attacked or invaded. The way were are avoiding the promises we made to them, you'd think they were Native Americans.

 

[White 6]

Even Bernie does not want "pure socialism".

Are you sure? What was his platform again?
Oh, yeah:
1. Medicare for all.
2. Green New Deal.
3. $15.00 minimum universal minimum wage by order of the Federal Government.
4. Cut military and raise taxes to feed his programs.
5. Free Tuition.
6. On Criminal Justice, he favored ending cash bail, unfair to people that cannot afford it.
He was for abolishing private prisons. I could get behind that.
7. In foreign policy, End America's involvement in the Saudi war against Yemen. I say amen to that.
Broadly, he ran as anti-war, anti-imperialist, Anti-colonial, and anti-fascist.
If true, I could support that foreign policy as long as applied with some reason, evaluation of
reality on the ground around the world.
But, basically, he ran as a card carrying socialist favoring socialism for all.

Everybody wants to be him in 2020, but there's only one Bernie Sanders

There can only be one Bernie Sanders.

www.dailydot.com

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Washington is starting to sound like north korea fear mongerers. Idiots.

 

[WinterBorn]

Are you sure? What was his platform again?
Oh, yeah:
1. Medicare for all.
2. Green New Deal.
3. $15.00 minimum universal minimum wage by order of the Federal Government.
4. Cut military and raise taxes to feed his programs.
5. Free Tuition.
6. On Criminal Justice, he favored ending cash bail, unfair to people that cannot afford it.
He was for abolishing private prisons. I could get behind that.
7. In foreign policy, End America's involvement in the Saudi war against Yemen. I say amen to that.
Broadly, he ran as anti-war, anti-imperialist, Anti-colonial, and anti-fascist.
If true, I could support that foreign policy as long as applied with some reason, evaluation of
reality on the ground around the world.
But, basically, he ran as a card carrying socialist favoring socialism for all.

Everybody wants to be him in 2020, but there's only one Bernie Sanders

There can only be one Bernie Sanders.

www.dailydot.com

He ran as a Democratic Socialist. All of the things you listed above are accurate. And they were to be done within the framework we currently have. Namely elected officials using tax dollars to provide services for American citizens. That is not pure socialism.

 

[basquebromance]

excerpts:

No one knows exactly what the human costs of such a war would be. But there are estimates that there could be over 50,000 civilian casualties in Ukraine, and millions of refugees flooding neighboring countries as they flee what could be the worst European conflict since the second world war. In addition, of course, there would be many thousands of deaths within the Ukrainian and Russian militaries. There is also the possibility that this “regional” war could escalate to other parts of Europe. What might happen then is even more horrifying.

I am extremely concerned when I hear the familiar drumbeats in Washington, the bellicose rhetoric that gets amplified before every war, demanding that we must “show strength”, “get tough” and not engage in “appeasement”. A simplistic refusal to recognize the complex roots of the tensions in the region undermines the ability of negotiators to reach a peaceful resolution.

Invasion by Russia is not an answer; neither is intransigence by Nato. It is also important to recognize that Finland, one of the most developed and democratic countries in the world, borders Russia and has chosen not to be a member of Nato.

Putin may be a liar and a demagogue, but it is hypocritical for the United States to insist that we do not accept the principle of “spheres of influence”.

 

[White 6]

He ran as a Democratic Socialist. All of the things you listed above are accurate. And they were to be done within the framework we currently have. Namely elected officials using tax dollars to provide services for American citizens. That is not pure socialism.

I'm a big boy and know that there is some socialism now, always has been in America and always will be in America. I just do not want to encourage a radical shift in that direction or even increase the pace. I am on the conservative side, though not wanting to turn the clock back to a time that never was, but not wanting to boldly leap into a more socialist future. Joe is pissing me off enough and does not even have the word socialist in his personal label or brand.

 

[Grumblenuts]

You sure it was not his position and record as an avowed, even self-proclaimed socialist? Anybody wanting pure socialism here? Not me.

LOL! Not Bernie either.

 

[Anomalism]

We no longer have a capable military.

?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

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[justoffal]

Yet Bernie caucuses with the War Party. He's just looking for a handout. It is election season, after all. That's when Bernie makes the big bucks.

My sentiments exactly. The article was well written but Bernie lacks the actions to go along with his words.

 

[gipper]

Does no one remember when the Ukraine had so many nukes they were the 3rd largest nuclear power on the planet?

And they gave them all up in exchange for promises of protection? We, among other nations, promised to aid them if they were attacked or invaded. The way were are avoiding the promises we made to them, you'd think they were Native Americans.

We also promised not to expand NATO by one inch. So?