Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!

[alang1216]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

 

[PoliticalChic]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Did you write this?

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

 

[PoliticalChic]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Now you've tried to change the subject....but I have another custard pie to plaster on that ugly kisser.

You wrote....because you're a dunce:
Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism

Here's the fact: Democratic Socialism = Socialism = communism.



While not overtly so, Democratic Socialists of America is essentially a Marxist organization.
In an article in DSA's Democratic Left, Spring 2007, DSA National political Committee memberDavid Green of Detroit wrote in support of the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA)-or "card check".[1]
What distinguishes socialists from other progressives is the theory of surplus value. According to Marx, the secret of surplus value is that workers are a source of more value than they receive in wages. The capitalist is able to capture surplus value through his ownership of the means of production, his right to purchase labor as a commodity, his control over the production process, and his ownership of the final product. Surplus value is the measure of capital’s exploitation of labor
Green went on to write;
Our goal as socialists is to abolish private ownership of the means of production. Our immediate task is to limit the capitalist class’s prerogatives in the workplace..."
Barack Obama and Democratic Socialists of America/Socialism - KeyWiki



Putting the Cards on the Table

The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International
======================================================

“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table


2. "In the simplest of terms, Socialists at every level of government are calling for the federal government takeover of the management of American business, health care, education and the American family.

They envision much more than mere renewal or reform; they want to create an entirely new society controlled by a massive Socialist government.


3. Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders-the openly socialist then Congressman from Vermont, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the radical Washington DC based "think tank" Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

Many members were and continue to be linked to DSA and/or the Communist Party USA, IPS or other radical organizations.

From small beginnings the CPC has grown to embrace more than 80 members of Congress and three in the Senate. Congressional Progressive Caucus - KeyWiki



NOW are you ready to admit you're a fool???

 

[Zorro!]

Looks Like Bernie:

As the other candidates drop out, much of their support will likely go to Bernie as he out-polls everyone of them in head to head match ups, much like Trump did in 2016. Cruz did the best in head to head contests and was the last one to drop.

​

 

[Sun Devil 92]

October 25, 2016...NYTimes gave Hillary 93% chance of winning the election.
2016 Election Forecast: Who Will Be President?

Oh gee good for Trump for the fluke of winning the election but losing the popular vote. Sure, I’ll admit that he could win the map again in November, but it’s kind of pathetic that fluke is all he has going for him. The large majority of his winning predecessors won the popular vote.

Once we discount the illegal aliens that Obama told to vote.....Trump won both.


illegals get driver's licenses that say no voting.....

Really?

I say Democrat's who work the polls ignore that blue bar and simply look at the name on the driver's license.

And guess what?

"It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!





California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015

oIllegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/



Looking for the biggest Cinco de Mayo celebration in the world? Look no further than Fiesta Broadway in Los Angeles, where hundreds of thousands of people come out for food, music and crafts in a celebration of Hispanic heritage.

Adopted in 1968, who is NASA’s official safety mascot?

Lol this is so pitiful. You people just believe anything Trump says. He claims 3 million illegals voted and you believe him even though there is no evidence This happened.

It your party didn't anticipate exactly that.....

.....why did Hussein tell them to go and vote...."when you vote, you're a citizen yourself."

That sounds like bullshit but even if he did, it’s not like it would magically allow them to vote now would it?

Except when you have your head up his ass.

Then you do whatever he tells you.

 

[Markle]

Looks Like Bernie:

As the other candidates drop out, much of their support will likely go to Bernie as he out-polls everyone of them in head to head match ups, much like Trump did in 2016. Cruz did the best in head to head contests and was the last one to drop.

​

Bernie doesn't have a prayer.

 

[Issa]

Came in first in New Hampshire....Iowa....

It's lookin' more and more like Democrats enter November as the red party.


And this Democrat Congressman knows what that means:

‘We lose 48 states’: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate
Ryan, an Ohio congressman who has endorsed Joe Biden since dropping out, argued that picking Bernie Sanders would be a mistake for Democrats. He told Fox News on Tuesday that the public would not support a self-described democratic socialist.

“I, personally, am very, very concerned about some of the folks who are running,” Ryan said. “I think, you know, if we run under a democratic socialist banner in 50 states, I think we lose the industrial Midwest. I think we lose 48 states. I think we lose working-class union voters who have negotiated their private healthcare and want to keep it, and they don’t want to be forced into a public healthcare system.”

He added: “You lose those voters, and I think some of the other issues as well. I think that would be disastrous for us. I think Joe Biden is the absolute best candidate for us. I think he beats Donald Trump in the swing states and the industrial Midwest, and it’s going to be a new day in America.”
‘We lose 48 states’: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate






That's Quid Pro Jud....

Nobody told you, that no one knows what will happen during elections....it's rigged as Trump said. So don't believe the polls, the journalists and also the so called experts. That been said Bernie is too honest and clean for the world of politics in the US. from Trump to Clinton they are all in it for their own legacy and benefits.

 

[basquebromance]

Bernie needs to work like a demon to secure the nomination. everyone's against him!

 

[keepitreal]

Well, little wonder that Putin and his trolls are rooting for him!

Facebook 2020: Russian trolls are back to meddle with the coming US election - CNN

Ok, first of all, during the whole 'Russia Collusion' crap,
it had been reported that 'Russia' favored Trump and Sanders

Secondly, from the article you linked to....

...with the caption

A fake Bernie Sanders' supporters page posted an image
attacking the candidacy of Vice President Joe Biden

Why the fuck can't legal action be taken against these idiots

So, this ad isn't attempting to influence the elections
by trying to influence voters

 

[PoliticalChic]

Came in first in New Hampshire....Iowa....

It's lookin' more and more like Democrats enter November as the red party.


And this Democrat Congressman knows what that means:

‘We lose 48 states’: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate
Ryan, an Ohio congressman who has endorsed Joe Biden since dropping out, argued that picking Bernie Sanders would be a mistake for Democrats. He told Fox News on Tuesday that the public would not support a self-described democratic socialist.

“I, personally, am very, very concerned about some of the folks who are running,” Ryan said. “I think, you know, if we run under a democratic socialist banner in 50 states, I think we lose the industrial Midwest. I think we lose 48 states. I think we lose working-class union voters who have negotiated their private healthcare and want to keep it, and they don’t want to be forced into a public healthcare system.”

He added: “You lose those voters, and I think some of the other issues as well. I think that would be disastrous for us. I think Joe Biden is the absolute best candidate for us. I think he beats Donald Trump in the swing states and the industrial Midwest, and it’s going to be a new day in America.”
‘We lose 48 states’: Democratic congressman says Trump would demolish a democratic socialist candidate






That's Quid Pro Jud....

Nobody told you, that no one knows what will happen during elections....it's rigged as Trump said. So don't believe the polls, the journalists and also the so called experts. That been said Bernie is too honest and clean for the world of politics in the US. from Trump to Clinton they are all in it for their own legacy and benefits.

"...Bernie is too honest and clean ..."


You've missed the point: he's wrong about everything, as is every adherent of the Church of Militant Secularism.

Are you?

 

[alang1216]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Did you write this?

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

My visera is intact, thank you very much and BTW, constant repetition doesn't make your case any better.

You say Bernie is a socialist but you also say "If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism". Bernie loves the Scandinavian model so you are wrong about him and should apologize for spreading misinformation.

 

[alang1216]

Looks Like Bernie:

As the other candidates drop out, much of their support will likely go to Bernie as he out-polls everyone of them in head to head match ups, much like Trump did in 2016. Cruz did the best in head to head contests and was the last one to drop.

​

Not too likely. Bernie and Warren probably get 35-45% of the Dems, the most liberal wing of the Dems. As the more moderate Dems drop out it seems more likely their supporters will turn to one of the remaining moderate Dems. Should it come down to Bernie and a moderate, Bernie will still get only 35-40%. If he doesn't have enough delegates by then he's toast.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Did you write this?

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

My visera is intact, thank you very much and BTW, constant repetition doesn't make your case any better.

You say Bernie is a socialist but you also say "If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism". Bernie loves the Scandinavian model so you are wrong about him and should apologize for spreading misinformation.

No, he doesn't.

He, like you, imagines their economies as being socialist.

As I proved....they aren't.


NOW are you ready to admit you're an idiot???

 

[PoliticalChic]

"In Praising Cuban Socialism, Bernie Sanders Is No Democrat ‘Radical’–He’s a Mainstream Democrat"
In Praising Cuban Socialism, Bernie Sanders Is No Democrat ‘Radical’–He’s a Mainstream Democrat

Exactly!

 

[alang1216]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Now you've tried to change the subject....but I have another custard pie to plaster on that ugly kisser.

You wrote....because you're a dunce:
Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism

Here's the fact: Democratic Socialism = Socialism = communism.



While not overtly so, Democratic Socialists of America is essentially a Marxist organization.
In an article in DSA's Democratic Left, Spring 2007, DSA National political Committee memberDavid Green of Detroit wrote in support of the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA)-or "card check".[1]
What distinguishes socialists from other progressives is the theory of surplus value. According to Marx, the secret of surplus value is that workers are a source of more value than they receive in wages. The capitalist is able to capture surplus value through his ownership of the means of production, his right to purchase labor as a commodity, his control over the production process, and his ownership of the final product. Surplus value is the measure of capital’s exploitation of labor
Green went on to write;
Our goal as socialists is to abolish private ownership of the means of production. Our immediate task is to limit the capitalist class’s prerogatives in the workplace..."
Barack Obama and Democratic Socialists of America/Socialism - KeyWiki



Putting the Cards on the Table

The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International
======================================================

“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table


2. "In the simplest of terms, Socialists at every level of government are calling for the federal government takeover of the management of American business, health care, education and the American family.

They envision much more than mere renewal or reform; they want to create an entirely new society controlled by a massive Socialist government.


3. Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders-the openly socialist then Congressman from Vermont, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the radical Washington DC based "think tank" Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

Many members were and continue to be linked to DSA and/or the Communist Party USA, IPS or other radical organizations.

From small beginnings the CPC has grown to embrace more than 80 members of Congress and three in the Senate. Congressional Progressive Caucus - KeyWiki



NOW are you ready to admit you're a fool???

Which of these two contradictory statements that you wrote is a lie?

You wrote:

• Here's the fact: Democratic Socialism = Socialism = communism.

You also wrote:

• If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism

The Scandinavian/Nordic model sounds like the democratic socialism Bernie supports and has been characterised as follows:[10]

• An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare[10] in a largely tax-funded system.[11]
• Strong property rights, contract enforcement and overall ease of doing business.[12]
• Public pension plans.[10]
• Free trade combined with collective risk sharing (social programmes and labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.[10]
• Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.[10]
• Low levels of corruption.[10] In Transparency International's 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden were ranked among the top 10 least corrupt of the 167 countries evaluated.[13]
• High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union.[14] In 2013, labour union density was 88% in Iceland, 69% in Denmark, 67% in Sweden, 66% in Finland and 51% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 18% in Germany, 11% in the United States and 8% in France.[15] The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.[16]
• A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.[17][18] Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination while Finland is ranked the least flexible.[10] The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms.[10] At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through flexicurity reforms in 1994 and 1996.
• The United Nations World Happiness Reports show that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.[19] The Nordic countries place in the top 10 of the World Happiness Report 2018, with Finland and Norway taking the top spots.[20]
• The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.[21]
• Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7% and Finland at 48.6% reflect very high public spending.[22] One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare and for the government itself. They often have greater job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
• Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Norway and Sweden in comparison to the OECD average.[23]
• Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are high, with Denmark at 45.9% and both Finland and Sweden at 44.1%.[24] The Nordic countries have relatively flat tax rates, meaning that even those with medium and low incomes are taxed at relatively high levels.[25][26]

 

[alang1216]

He, like you, imagines their economies as being socialist.

As I proved....they aren't.

NOW are you ready to admit you're an idiot???

So you know what Bernie thinks as opposed to what he says? I'd say he is smart enough to take him at his word that he likes the social democracies/Scandinavian/Nordic model

 

[The Purge]

 

[Thinker101]

 

[PoliticalChic]

You had to go back pretty far to smear Sanders. I guess by your measure Trump is a pro-choice Democrat who would invite the Clintons to his wedding.

Amusing how, when I smash a custard pie in your ugly kisser, you Leftists attempt to simply wander off.....slither off.

You wrote this:

“Where has socialism ever worked?” Scandinavia seems very happy with their socialism."

I eviscerated you, with this:

"For many on the left, the answer to the last question is “the Scandinavian countries.” The problem, however, is that the Scandinavian countries have, by some measures, freer markets than the US, which the left sees as the archetype of capitalism. At the very least, they are not significantly different from the US in their degree of economic freedom.

Abolishing markets does not describe the Scandinavian countries, though it does capture a lot of what was going on in Venezuela. Socialism, at least historically, did not simply mean “a large welfare state” as we see in Scandinavia. In fact, the only way countries can afford larger welfare states is to have economies productive enough to produce the wealth that can be taxed away to support such programs. This is why the Scandinavian countries deregulated (and lowered tax rates) so much in the last decade or two: only through freer markets could they afford their transfer programs.

If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism. You love market capitalism, because that’s what makes that model possible. (Whether large welfare states are necessary or desirable is a matter for another column.)
You Can't Deny that Venezuela is a Socialist Calamity | Steven Horwitz

Now:
Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????

"Ready to admit how truly dumb you are????"
Not just yet. You have again failed to backup your allegations with facts.

What is a Democratic Socialist?
A democratic socialist is someone who believes that the government should provide a range of basic services to the public for free or at a significant discount, such as health care and education. Unlike socialists, democratic socialists do not believe the government should control all aspects of the aspects, only help provide basic needs and help all of its citizens have an equal chance of success.

Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism
Both democratic socialism and socialism advocate for a redistribution of wealth and power to meet public needs, not make profits for a few. Both aim to weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of the working people.

Democratic socialists, however, do not think the government should immediately take control of all aspects of the economy. Democratic socialism focuses more on providing basic needs to all people, such as health care and education. Democratic socialism, unlike socialism, would achieve this through democratic means and not an authoritarian rule.
​

That sounds an awful lot like Bernie and the Scandinavian countries so I'll ask again, which of Bernie's policies isn't found in the Democratic Socialist countries?

Now you've tried to change the subject....but I have another custard pie to plaster on that ugly kisser.

You wrote....because you're a dunce:
Democratic Socialism vs. Socialism

Here's the fact: Democratic Socialism = Socialism = communism.



While not overtly so, Democratic Socialists of America is essentially a Marxist organization.
In an article in DSA's Democratic Left, Spring 2007, DSA National political Committee memberDavid Green of Detroit wrote in support of the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA)-or "card check".[1]
What distinguishes socialists from other progressives is the theory of surplus value. According to Marx, the secret of surplus value is that workers are a source of more value than they receive in wages. The capitalist is able to capture surplus value through his ownership of the means of production, his right to purchase labor as a commodity, his control over the production process, and his ownership of the final product. Surplus value is the measure of capital’s exploitation of labor
Green went on to write;
Our goal as socialists is to abolish private ownership of the means of production. Our immediate task is to limit the capitalist class’s prerogatives in the workplace..."
Barack Obama and Democratic Socialists of America/Socialism - KeyWiki



Putting the Cards on the Table

The Democratic Socialists of America, the DSA. remains the principle branch of the Socialist International, whose primary goal is global governance under worldwide socialism.

a. The SI boasts it is successor to the First International of Karl Marx, 1864. “Ever since its inception in 1951, the Socialist International has made cosmetic efforts to distance itself from communist socialists.”
Congressional Socialists No Longer in the Marxist Closet 1
and
The Grasp of Socialist International
======================================================

“”The Socialist International carries the torch for Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels, V.I. Lenin, Leon Trotzky, and Josef Stalin. Pay no attention to the desperate attempts by socialists to distance themselves from Stalin. For our purposes, it suffices to observe that every single tenet of the Socialist International is the exact opposite of the principles upon which America was founded, and which define the U.S. Constitution. DSA/USA, the "Democratic Socialists of America" are the U.S. arm of the Socialist International. They share the symbol of the fist holding the rose, and they share the tasks to be accomplished - in our case, an altogether different America. You may verify all this at www.dsausa.org.Putting the Cards on the Table


2. "In the simplest of terms, Socialists at every level of government are calling for the federal government takeover of the management of American business, health care, education and the American family.

They envision much more than mere renewal or reform; they want to create an entirely new society controlled by a massive Socialist government.


3. Congressional Progressive Caucus was founded in 1991 by Bernie Sanders-the openly socialist then Congressman from Vermont, Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) and the radical Washington DC based "think tank" Institute for Policy Studies (IPS).

Many members were and continue to be linked to DSA and/or the Communist Party USA, IPS or other radical organizations.

From small beginnings the CPC has grown to embrace more than 80 members of Congress and three in the Senate. Congressional Progressive Caucus - KeyWiki



NOW are you ready to admit you're a fool???

Which of these two contradictory statements that you wrote is a lie?

You wrote:

• Here's the fact: Democratic Socialism = Socialism = communism.

You also wrote:

• If you love the Scandinavian model, you don’t love socialism

The Scandinavian/Nordic model sounds like the democratic socialism Bernie supports and has been characterised as follows:[10]

• An elaborate social safety net, in addition to public services such as free education and universal healthcare[10] in a largely tax-funded system.[11]
• Strong property rights, contract enforcement and overall ease of doing business.[12]
• Public pension plans.[10]
• Free trade combined with collective risk sharing (social programmes and labour market institutions) which has provided a form of protection against the risks associated with economic openness.[10]
• Little product market regulation. Nordic countries rank very high in product market freedom according to OECD rankings.[10]
• Low levels of corruption.[10] In Transparency International's 2015 Corruption Perceptions Index, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden were ranked among the top 10 least corrupt of the 167 countries evaluated.[13]
• High percentage of workers belonging to a labour union.[14] In 2013, labour union density was 88% in Iceland, 69% in Denmark, 67% in Sweden, 66% in Finland and 51% in Norway. In comparison, labour union density was 18% in Germany, 11% in the United States and 8% in France.[15] The lower union density in Norway is mainly explained by the absence of a Ghent system since 1938. In contrast, Denmark, Finland and Sweden all have union-run unemployment funds.[16]
• A partnership between employers, trade unions and the government, whereby these social partners negotiate the terms to regulating the workplace among themselves, rather than the terms being imposed by law.[17][18] Sweden has decentralised wage co-ordination while Finland is ranked the least flexible.[10] The changing economic conditions have given rise to fear among workers as well as resistance by trade unions in regards to reforms.[10] At the same time, reforms and favourable economic development seem to have reduced unemployment, which has traditionally been higher. Denmark's Social Democrats managed to push through flexicurity reforms in 1994 and 1996.
• The United Nations World Happiness Reports show that the happiest nations are concentrated in Northern Europe. The Nordics ranked highest on the metrics of real GDP per capita, healthy life expectancy, having someone to count on, perceived freedom to make life choices, generosity and freedom from corruption.[19] The Nordic countries place in the top 10 of the World Happiness Report 2018, with Finland and Norway taking the top spots.[20]
• The Nordic countries received the highest ranking for protecting workers rights on the International Trade Union Confederation's 2014 Global Rights Index, with Denmark being the only nation to receive a perfect score.[21]
• Sweden at 56.6% of GDP, Denmark at 51.7% and Finland at 48.6% reflect very high public spending.[22] One key reason for public spending is the large number of public employees. These employees work in various fields including education, healthcare and for the government itself. They often have greater job security and make up around a third of the workforce (more than 38% in Denmark). Public spending in social transfers such as unemployment benefits and early-retirement programmes is high. In 2001, the wage-based unemployment benefits were around 90% of wage in Denmark and 80% in Sweden, compared to 75% in the Netherlands and 60% in Germany. The unemployed were also able to receive benefits several years before reductions, compared to quick benefit reduction in other countries.
• Public expenditure for health and education is significantly higher in Denmark, Norway and Sweden in comparison to the OECD average.[23]
• Overall tax burdens (as a percentage of GDP) are high, with Denmark at 45.9% and both Finland and Sweden at 44.1%.[24] The Nordic countries have relatively flat tax rates, meaning that even those with medium and low incomes are taxed at relatively high levels.[25][26]

I never lie, and I'm never wrong.


Bernie is a communist, and that attaches itself to anyone who votes Democrat.


You're simply too dumb to recognize the fact.

 

[PoliticalChic]

He, like you, imagines their economies as being socialist.

As I proved....they aren't.

NOW are you ready to admit you're an idiot???

So you know what Bernie thinks as opposed to what he says? I'd say he is smart enough to take him at his word that he likes the social democracies/Scandinavian/Nordic model

Communists lie.

Here are the facts:



1. " [At] the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

2. ...graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.” Don’t be fooled by Bernie Sanders — he’s a diehard communist | New York Post


a. Eugene Victor Debs, Bernie's paragon: "... Debs agreed with the left wing of the Socialist Party—people like Bill Haywood and Mother Jones, who would help found the Industrial Workers of the World (the 'Wobblies). They advocated workers taking control where the power of the ruling class was rooted—in the factories. ... Within the SP, members had verydifferent ideas about socialism and how it would be achieved. Some believed in socialism as a steady increase in social reforms achieved by socialists being elected to political office—others looked to a revolutionary transformation of society.....

Eventually, those leftists who remained in the SP quit to help form a new Communist Party on the model of what Lenin and the Bolsheviks had built in Russia. Debs, while he supported the Russian Revolution and remained a revolutionary, nonetheless stayed in the SP." Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


Still imagine there is any great difference between socialists and communists....and Bernie?



3. This subversive hero of Sanders, [Eugene Victor Debs,] denounced even by liberal Democrats as a “traitor,” bashed “the barons of Wall Street” and hailed the “triumphant” Bolshevik revolution in Russia.


“Those Russian comrades of ours have made greater sacrifices, have suffered more, and have shed more heroic blood than any like number of men and women anywhere on Earth,” Debs proclaimed. “They have laid the foundation of the first real democracy that ever drew the breath of life in this world.” Socialism according to Eugene V. Debs


4. "In a 1918 speech in Canton, Ohio, Debs reaffirmed his solidarity with Lenin and Trotsky, despite clear evidence of their violent plunder and treachery. Sanders still hangs a portrait of Debs on the wall in his Senate office." NYPost, Op. Cit.


This Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Now about the Democrat Party elite, Bernie Sanders: Communist, Socialist, Liberal, and Progressive


5." ... Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. [Before Maxine Waters, too!]

... Sanders in 1981 managed to get elected mayor of Burlington, Vt., where he restricted property rights for landlords, set price controls and raised property taxes to pay for communal land trusts. Local small businesses distributed fliers complaining their new mayor “does not believe in free enterprise.”


6. His radical activities didn’t stop at the water’s edge. Sanders took several “goodwill” trips not only to the USSR, but also to Cuba and Nicaragua, where the Soviets were trying to expand their influence in our hemisphere.

In 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

“The Sandinista government has more support among the Nicaraguan people — substantially more support — than Ronald Reagan has among the American people,” Sanders told Vermont government-access TV in 1985." Don’t be fooled by Bernie Sanders — he’s a diehard communist | New York Post


(BTW...Ortega and the Sandinistas were voted out of power in 1990. Ortega ran for election again, in October 1996 and November 2001, but lost on both occasions)





7. "Sanders also adopted a Soviet sister city outside Moscow and honeymooned with his second wife in the USSR. He put up a Soviet flag in his office, shocking even the Birkenstock-wearing local liberals. At the time, the Evil Empire was on the march around the world, and threatening the US with nuclear annihilation.


Then, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.” Don’t be fooled by Bernie Sanders — he’s a diehard communist | New York Post



8."Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects.

Price tag: $18 trillion.

Who will pay for it all? You will. Sanders plans to not only soak the rich with a 90 percent-plus tax rate, while charging Wall Street a “speculation tax,” but hit every American with a “global-warming tax.”

Of course, even that wouldn’t cover the cost of his communist schemes; a President Sanders would eventually soak the middle class he claims to champion. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need, right?



9. Sanders and his Sanderistas are all still pining for what Debs called “the Greater Revolution yet to come.”

What’s revolting is how this hardcore commie’s campaign has gotten this far. With his ascendancy in both Iowa and New Hampshire, Sanders is no longer just a fool; he’s now a dangerous fool.

While it may be hard to hate the old codger, it’s easy — and virtuous — to hate his un-American ideas. They should be swept into the dustbin with the rest of communist history."
Don’t be fooled by Bernie Sanders — he’s a diehard communist | New York Post