Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[LittleNipper]

Read the Bible. Don't listen to me.

Just one book .....the Mystery of Existence is way too vast for one book bro ..

If you will not read one book, why would you read many? The Bible is a living book, and those that read it often note that it is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago. People are still the same. They still seek excuses for their sin. The Bible provides THE reason and a means of escape.

Try to understand this bro

Billions and Billions of humans have lived and died without having any knowledge of any Bible...what is the Big Corleone going to do ,send them to "eternal torment"?

and what is with "eternal torment" is there no end to the vicious cruelty...I mean God has to be Psycho

Let me say this: God knows everyone's heart. If a person is seeking after God, God will grab hold of that individual. What exactly is your excuse? God isn't unreasonable. God is love but just. I believe hell is what an individual creates for himself without God. In your case, it might be a hell filled with IF ONLYs!

If only I had listened. If only I had accepted Christ. If only if I had not been so closed minded. If only I didn't laugh at believers. If only I had read the Bible. If only there was another chance. If only I had become a friend of Jesus. If only I had set some time aside for God. If only had prayed/talked to Him.

The simple fact is that the rich man asked that someone be sent back to his brothers to warn them of their impending doom. And Abraham told him that they had the prophets. If they would not listen to them, why would they listen to one who returned from the dead?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Read the Bible. Don't listen to me.

Just one book .....the Mystery of Existence is way too vast for one book bro ..

If you will not read one book, why would you read many? The Bible is a living book, and those that read it often note that it is just as relevant today as it was thousands of years ago. People are still the same. They still seek excuses for their sin. The Bible provides THE reason and a means of escape.

Try to understand this bro

Billions and Billions of humans have lived and died without having any knowledge of any Bible...what is the Big Corleone going to do ,send them to "eternal torment"?

and what is with "eternal torment" is there no end to the vicious cruelty...I mean God has to be Psycho

Let me say this: God know one's heart. If a person is seeking after God, God will grab hold of that individual. What exactly is your excuse? God isn't unreasonable. God is love but just. I believe hell is what an individual creates for himself without God. In your case, it might be a hell filled with IF ONLYs! If only I had listened. If only I had accepted Christ. If only if I had not been so closed minded. If only I didn't laugh at believers. If only I had read the Bible. If only there was another chance. If only I had become a friend of Jesus. If only I had set some time aside for God. If only had prayed/talked to Him.

The simple fact is that the rich man asked that someone be sent back to his brothers to warn them of their impending doom. And Abraham told him that they had the prophets. If they would not listen to them, why would they listen to one who returned from the dead?

All of that screed is what you believe ...I do not believe any of that....end of story


Alabama pastor facing charges for raping 9-year-old girl on father’s grave
Mack Charles Andrews, a pastor at the heavily conservative United Pentecostal Church is accused of raping “Jane,” a pseudonym to conceal the identity of the victim, along with multiple other minors.

 

[Ravi]

Carson is now going to find out what happens when people start actually paying attention to the crazy shit he says.
Carson is a doctor who took up politics listening to the rightwing propaganda machine in the media. That much is very clear.

I found his lies about vaccines much more disturbing, to be honest. He belongs to a kook religion just like Muslims do and it kind of goes with the territory that they'd distrust each other.

what lies did he tell about vaccines?

That most doctors agreed they should be spaced out.

 

[playtime]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

unlike islam

the old testament was replaced with the new testament

Fundies don't disregard the OT, & don't treat the NT as a 'do over'.

 

[playtime]

You liberals out your hypocrisy. Separation of church and state which Islam doesn't allow.

Muslims believe their faith is entwined with the running of government.

LOL! Most of the Republican party has swung so far to the right, they are as fundamental & intertwined with their brand of 'Christianity' as any die hard Muslim could ever hope to be.

We have our very own American sharia law candidate running for POTUS again... who would like to amend the Constitution to reflect Biblical teachings. Thank goodness it would never happen, but that's the way theses freaks think.

 

[playtime]

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

"...Of the 5,922 single bias incidents reported, [2013] the top three bias categories were race (48.5 percent), sexual orientation (20.8 percent), and religion (17.4 percent)..."

Latest Hate Crime Statistics Report Released
Can you do the math? That's 1 in 5 murders based on bias & hate.

We aren't talking crime rates, and the source. Can you stick to the subject? You liberal nutjobs are always all over the ******* place.

That's why the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" makes sense.

There are plenty of Christian fundies who would just love to go homo hunting. the ONLY reason why they don't is because of the laws on the books.

 

[playtime]

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

No, it because there are idiots who don't take precautions... just like heteros that engage in risky sex or drug use.

Getting a cock up your ass is the only kind of "risky sex" there is when it comes to HIV. The chances of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than the chances of a heterosexual male who doesn't abuse IV drugs of getting HIV.

Tell that to Magic Johnson. And according to the CDC (the latest I could find was 2010) Heterosexual Unprotected Sex + IV use = 33% of HIV cases. that's 1 in 3.

Basic Statistics | Statistics Center | HIV/AIDS | CDC | HIV/AIDS | CDC

 

[HenryBHough]

Why, given that liberals are denied the ability to learn from their own or the mistakes of others, would they NOT again vote for a Muslim president?

 

[Roudy]

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

"...Of the 5,922 single bias incidents reported, [2013] the top three bias categories were race (48.5 percent), sexual orientation (20.8 percent), and religion (17.4 percent)..."

Latest Hate Crime Statistics Report Released
Can you do the math? That's 1 in 5 murders based on bias & hate.

We aren't talking crime rates, and the source. Can you stick to the subject? You liberal nutjobs are always all over the ******* place.

That's why the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" makes sense.

There are plenty of Christian fundies who would just love to go homo hunting. the ONLY reason why they don't is because of the laws on the books.

But you see in Christian democracies like the U.S., killing gays because they are gay is considered a hate crime punishable by death. In Muslim countries it is an honor.

 

[Mustang]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

American hasn't even come close to having a Jew serve as President. And for that matter, we've only had one Catholic president who was more or less actually forced to release a statement saying that, if elected, he would not feel an obligation to answer to the Pope. With all that said, what's the likelihood that a Muslim has a prayer shawl's chance in hell of being elected?

 

[Campbell]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

When was the last time Christians tossed a homosexual off the top of a tall building?

Notice that all your Bible quotes are from the Old Testament.

Wrong.....most of them have been from the new testament. This is one of my favorites:

Mark 16:
…17"These signs will accompany them that believe: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

 

[playtime]

Why, givenm that liberals are denied the ability to learn from their own or the mistakes of others, would they NOT again vote for a Muslim president?

Why haven't the dumbfuck 'Pubbies learned that Obama isn't a Muslim despite all the evidence he isn't? And what difference does it make if he were? He's not adhering to Islam... not with him liking his beer, & smoking & I am sure he's had a ham sandwich now & then. God you guys are stupid.

 

[HenryBHough]

Why is that guy fondling Hlllary, Bernie and Joey?

 

[playtime]

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

"...Of the 5,922 single bias incidents reported, [2013] the top three bias categories were race (48.5 percent), sexual orientation (20.8 percent), and religion (17.4 percent)..."

Latest Hate Crime Statistics Report Released
Can you do the math? That's 1 in 5 murders based on bias & hate.

We aren't talking crime rates, and the source. Can you stick to the subject? You liberal nutjobs are always all over the ******* place.

That's why the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" makes sense.

There are plenty of Christian fundies who would just love to go homo hunting. the ONLY reason why they don't is because of the laws on the books.

But you see in Christian democracies like the U.S., killing gays because they are gay is considered a hate crime punishable by death. In Muslim countries it is an honor.

it wasn't too long ago we owned black people & hung them solely because they were black & the white robed ones did it with the thoughts they had 'Christ's' blessing & the powers that be turned their heads & let it happen.

 

[bripat9643]

Carson is now going to find out what happens when people start actually paying attention to the crazy shit he says.
Carson is a doctor who took up politics listening to the rightwing propaganda machine in the media. That much is very clear.

I found his lies about vaccines much more disturbing, to be honest. He belongs to a kook religion just like Muslims do and it kind of goes with the territory that they'd distrust each other.

what lies did he tell about vaccines?

That most doctors agreed they should be spaced out.

How would you know what most doctors agree on with regard to vaccines?

 

[bripat9643]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

American hasn't even come close to having a Jew serve as President. And for that matter, we've only had one Catholic president who was more or less actually forced to release a statement saying that, if elected, he would not feel an obligation to answer to the Pope. With all that said, what's the likelihood that a Muslim has a prayer shawl's chance in hell of being elected?

in 2016 there is zero chance. 2056 is another matter. There might be 100 million Muslims by then.

 

[David_42]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

American hasn't even come close to having a Jew serve as President. And for that matter, we've only had one Catholic president who was more or less actually forced to release a statement saying that, if elected, he would not feel an obligation to answer to the Pope. With all that said, what's the likelihood that a Muslim has a prayer shawl's chance in hell of being elected?

in 2016 there is zero chance. 2056 is another matter. There might be 100 million Muslims by then.

Yes, and by 2050, whites will no longer be a majority. Get ready sucker.

 

[bripat9643]

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

No, it because there are idiots who don't take precautions... just like heteros that engage in risky sex or drug use.

Getting a cock up your ass is the only kind of "risky sex" there is when it comes to HIV. The chances of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than the chances of a heterosexual male who doesn't abuse IV drugs of getting HIV.

Tell that to Magic Johnson. And according to the CDC (the latest I could find was 2010) Heterosexual Unprotected Sex + IV use = 33% of HIV cases. that's 1 in 3.

Basic Statistics | Statistics Center | HIV/AIDS | CDC | HIV/AIDS | CDC

Magic Johnson is a liar, and so is the Center for Disease Control.

HIV & AIDS - Statement About CDC Fraud​

STATEMENT ON CDC FRAUD

STATE OF CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE,
MAY 8, 1996
HEARING ON UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AIDS RESEARCH BUDGET


Outline and References from Statement by Phillip E. Johnson, Professor of Law, University of California, Berkeley.

Summary: The nature and extent of the AIDS epidemic has been misprepresented to the public by federal agencies, with the acquiescence of much of the media. The legislature should do what it can to encourage support for research that provides an independent review of the nature of the epidemic and the actual risk that AIDS presents to the public in general.

A. The Wall Street Journal front page article of Wednesday, May 1, 1996

Title: Health Hazard: AIDS Fight Is Skewed By Federal Campaign Exaggerating Risks ---Most Heterosexuals Face Scant Peril but Receive Large Portion of Funds ---- Less Goes to Gays, Addicts

By Amanda BENNETT and Anita SHARPE

In the summer of 1987, federal health officials made the fateful decision to bombard the public with a terrifying message: Anyone could get AIDS.

While the message was technically true, it was also highly misleading. Everyone certainly faced some danger, but for most heterosexuals, the risk from a single act of sex was smaller than the risk of ever getting hit by lightning. In the U.S., the disease was, and remains, largely the scourge of gay men, intravenous drug users, their sex partners and their newborn children.

Nonetheless, a bold public-relations campaign promised to sound a general alarm about AIDS, lifting it from a homosexual concern to a national obsession and accelerating efforts to eradicate the disease. For people devoted to public health, it seemed the best course to take.

But nine years after the America Responds to AIDS campaign first hit the airwaves, many scientists and doctors are raising new questions. Increasingly, they worry that the everyone-gets-AIDS message -- still trumpeted not only by government agencies but by celebrities and the media -- is more than just dishonest: It is also having a perverse, potentially deadly effect on funding for AIDS prevention.

* * *

After considerable soul-searching and debate, officials fixed on a dramatic approach they believed would do the most good in the long run: a high-powered PR and advertising campaign to spread a sobering yet politically palatable message nationwide.

In subsequent meetings in the summer and fall of 1987, the CDC [U.S. Government Centers for Disease Control, headquartered in Atlanta] team developed the idea of filming people with AIDS and building a series of public-service announcements around what they had to say. Subjects wouldn't be identified as gay, and the dangers of intravenous drug use would get little attention.

* * *

Meanwhile, the CDC itself was producing research that made clear that heterosexual fears were exaggerated. And some CDC scientists, including then- epidemiology chief Harold W. Jaffe, publicly railed against the everyone-gets- AIDS message and urged that assistance be targeted to those who most needed it. But his opinion, along with the internal research on which it was based, was typically drowned out by the countervailing mass-media campaign.

Fear of AIDS spread -- and remains. Gallup surveys show that by 1988, 69% of Americans thought AIDS "was likely" to become an epidemic, compared with 51% a year earlier, before the PR campaign got in full swing. By 1991, most thought that married people who had an occasional affair would eventually face substantial risk.

Yet, as CDC officials well knew, many of the images presented by the anti- AIDS campaign created a misleading impression about who was likely to get the disease. The blonde, middle-aged woman in the CDC's brochure was an intravenous drug user who had shared AIDS-tainted needles, although she wasn't identified as such in the brochure. The Baptist minister's son who said, "If I can get AIDS, anyone can," was gay, although the public-service announcement featuring him didn't say so.

* * *

Research continued to show that AIDS among heterosexuals had largely settled into an inner-city nexus, a world bounded by poverty and poor health care and beset by rampant drug use. AIDS was also on the rise in some poor rural communities. Yet government ads typically didn't address the heterosexual group at greatest risk, a group that a CDC researcher would laterdefine as "generally young, minority, indigent women who use 'crack' cocaine, have multiple sex partners, trade sex for 'crack' or other drugs or money, and have [other sexually transmitted diseases] such as syphilis and herpes." ​

 

[bripat9643]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy. They despise everything American stands for. Only the insane would vote for a Muslim.

American hasn't even come close to having a Jew serve as President. And for that matter, we've only had one Catholic president who was more or less actually forced to release a statement saying that, if elected, he would not feel an obligation to answer to the Pope. With all that said, what's the likelihood that a Muslim has a prayer shawl's chance in hell of being elected?

in 2016 there is zero chance. 2056 is another matter. There might be 100 million Muslims by then.

Yes, and by 2050, whites will no longer be a majority. Get ready sucker.

Only a fool would look forward to such a prospect.

 

[David_42]

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

No, it because there are idiots who don't take precautions... just like heteros that engage in risky sex or drug use.

Getting a cock up your ass is the only kind of "risky sex" there is when it comes to HIV. The chances of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than the chances of a heterosexual male who doesn't abuse IV drugs of getting HIV.

Tell that to Magic Johnson. And according to the CDC (the latest I could find was 2010) Heterosexual Unprotected Sex + IV use = 33% of HIV cases. that's 1 in 3.

Basic Statistics | Statistics Center | HIV/AIDS | CDC | HIV/AIDS | CDC

Magic Johnson is a liar, and so is the Center for Disease Control.

HIV & AIDS - Statement About CDC Fraud​

STATEMENT ON CDC FRAUD

STATE OF CALIFORNIA ASSEMBLY EDUCATION SUBCOMMITTEE,
MAY 8, 1996
HEARING ON UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AIDS RESEARCH BUDGET


Outline and References from Statement by Phillip E. Johnson, Professor of Law, University of California, Berkeley.

Summary: The nature and extent of the AIDS epidemic has been misprepresented to the public by federal agencies, with the acquiescence of much of the media. The legislature should do what it can to encourage support for research that provides an independent review of the nature of the epidemic and the actual risk that AIDS presents to the public in general.

A. The Wall Street Journal front page article of Wednesday, May 1, 1996

Title: Health Hazard: AIDS Fight Is Skewed By Federal Campaign Exaggerating Risks ---Most Heterosexuals Face Scant Peril but Receive Large Portion of Funds ---- Less Goes to Gays, Addicts

By Amanda BENNETT and Anita SHARPE

In the summer of 1987, federal health officials made the fateful decision to bombard the public with a terrifying message: Anyone could get AIDS.

While the message was technically true, it was also highly misleading. Everyone certainly faced some danger, but for most heterosexuals, the risk from a single act of sex was smaller than the risk of ever getting hit by lightning. In the U.S., the disease was, and remains, largely the scourge of gay men, intravenous drug users, their sex partners and their newborn children.

Nonetheless, a bold public-relations campaign promised to sound a general alarm about AIDS, lifting it from a homosexual concern to a national obsession and accelerating efforts to eradicate the disease. For people devoted to public health, it seemed the best course to take.

But nine years after the America Responds to AIDS campaign first hit the airwaves, many scientists and doctors are raising new questions. Increasingly, they worry that the everyone-gets-AIDS message -- still trumpeted not only by government agencies but by celebrities and the media -- is more than just dishonest: It is also having a perverse, potentially deadly effect on funding for AIDS prevention.

* * *

After considerable soul-searching and debate, officials fixed on a dramatic approach they believed would do the most good in the long run: a high-powered PR and advertising campaign to spread a sobering yet politically palatable message nationwide.

In subsequent meetings in the summer and fall of 1987, the CDC [U.S. Government Centers for Disease Control, headquartered in Atlanta] team developed the idea of filming people with AIDS and building a series of public-service announcements around what they had to say. Subjects wouldn't be identified as gay, and the dangers of intravenous drug use would get little attention.

* * *

Meanwhile, the CDC itself was producing research that made clear that heterosexual fears were exaggerated. And some CDC scientists, including then- epidemiology chief Harold W. Jaffe, publicly railed against the everyone-gets- AIDS message and urged that assistance be targeted to those who most needed it. But his opinion, along with the internal research on which it was based, was typically drowned out by the countervailing mass-media campaign.

Fear of AIDS spread -- and remains. Gallup surveys show that by 1988, 69% of Americans thought AIDS "was likely" to become an epidemic, compared with 51% a year earlier, before the PR campaign got in full swing. By 1991, most thought that married people who had an occasional affair would eventually face substantial risk.

Yet, as CDC officials well knew, many of the images presented by the anti- AIDS campaign created a misleading impression about who was likely to get the disease. The blonde, middle-aged woman in the CDC's brochure was an intravenous drug user who had shared AIDS-tainted needles, although she wasn't identified as such in the brochure. The Baptist minister's son who said, "If I can get AIDS, anyone can," was gay, although the public-service announcement featuring him didn't say so.

* * *

Research continued to show that AIDS among heterosexuals had largely settled into an inner-city nexus, a world bounded by poverty and poor health care and beset by rampant drug use. AIDS was also on the rise in some poor rural communities. Yet government ads typically didn't address the heterosexual group at greatest risk, a group that a CDC researcher would laterdefine as "generally young, minority, indigent women who use 'crack' cocaine, have multiple sex partners, trade sex for 'crack' or other drugs or money, and have [other sexually transmitted diseases] such as syphilis and herpes." ​

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