Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Campbell]

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

They can keep saying it until they're blue in the face.....

But we all know

Being gay is being wrong....

You are born what you are, not what you want to be

Nobody is born a male who automatically becomes peter puffer

They choose too

-Geaux

Nobody chooses to be born. Nobody has anything to say about where they will be born or who their parents will be. Nobody has anything to say about whether or not they will have all their extremities. Nobody has anything to say about what their IQ will be and the range is from moron to genius. Nobody has anything to say about whether they will look like John Travolta or a circus clown. You go ahead and believe that ancient fairy tale about killing homosexuals all you would like but the cold hard facts are that those folks are indeed born that way.

This is not a guess. I had a cousin who was playing with girl's dolls and trying to wear his mother's shoes before he was two years old. His truck driving daddy and older brother nicknamed him "Sissy" before he was four. He lived a miserable life and died of AIDS when he was 55 years old. I have a niece who has been living with the same woman ever since she graduated from college about forty years ago. I watched her "tomboy" habits from the git go. You are wrong with a capital W. Lay that goddamned ancient relic of a book aside and get on the right side of life. Smarter people than you(by a longshot) have researched and determined that indeed one is born the way they are and nothing you or the other right wing, bible thumping haters can say or do will change it. Besides that it's now the law.

When I was in my 20's sixty years ago some of the gang I ran with used to get homosexual men drunk then roll them and take their cash. Every time that shit started I left their miserable asses and went home. When I was in the army in the late 1950's once the cadre figured out that a troop was Gay they mistreated him and caused them all manner of extra difficulty to just get through the training. Thank Goodness people will go to jail for that kind of conduct now. Hopefully, this country will finally begin to live according to the constitution and treat all of it's citizens fairly and equally.

Anyone who says being gay is a choice is telling you they are bisexual but choose to be straight. I myself am not bisexual. I could never be with another man. And a real gay could never choose to be straight. But a bisexual can choose.

They'll get mad and say they are not bisexuals but that's what their arguments suggest IMO.

Well....if they're truly bisexual I suppose one way is as good as another. Put it in ________.......or suck my_______(fill in the blanks)

 

[bripat9643]

Never said they can't have the same RIGHTS as married couples. Why don't they call it a civil union and leave the world alone. But no, they want to stomp and insult people's faiths as well. They have the "right".

Marriage isn't owned by any one religion. "Marriage" is just a word to describe two people that have vowed before the courts that they are committed to each other and under the rules of being wedded.....it's not magically "spiritual", especially when so many like Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump don't even take the word "marriage" seriously. I don't see conservatives denouncing Limbaugh for making a mockery of marriage....so I presume that it is all feigned sanctimony for those that abhor homosexuality.

Marriage is the union of a reproductive unit: a man and a woman. Your belief that that the sex of the members is irrelevant is absurd.

That is yours and other conservative's opinion....it's now legal for same sex people to get married, so it's not a belief, it's a fact.

It's not an opinion. It's a fact of biology and history. You can deny it until doomsday, and have all the judges in the world overrule the will of the people, but that won't make "homosexual marriage" anything more than an oxymoron.

 

[bripat9643]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

So what is your problem, other than the fact Carson is a black conservative?

That is this only problem with Carson.

 

[bripat9643]

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

No, it because there are idiots who don't take precautions... just like heteros that engage in risky sex or drug use.

Getting a cock up your ass is the only kind of "risky sex" there is when it comes to HIV. The chances of getting hit by a meteorite are greater than the chances of a heterosexual male who doesn't abuse IV drugs of getting HIV.

 

[bripat9643]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

Spina Bifida is "normal" in the same sense as homosexuality.

 

[bripat9643]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

When was the last time Christians tossed a homosexual off the top of a tall building?

Notice that all your Bible quotes are from the Old Testament.

 

[bripat9643]

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

Wrong. He isn't taking back a thing.

 

[bripat9643]

Never said they can't have the same RIGHTS as married couples. Why don't they call it a civil union and leave the world alone. But no, they want to stomp and insult people's faiths as well. They have the "right".

Marriage isn't owned by any one religion. "Marriage" is just a word to describe two people that have vowed before the courts that they are committed to each other and under the rules of being wedded.....it's not magically "spiritual", especially when so many like Rush Limbaugh and Donald Trump don't even take the word "marriage" seriously. I don't see conservatives denouncing Limbaugh for making a mockery of marriage....so I presume that it is all feigned sanctimony for those that abhor homosexuality.

Marriage is the union of a reproductive unit: a man and a woman. Your belief that that the sex of the members is irrelevant is absurd.

The Constitution says otherwise.

neener neener

Where?

 

[Lakhota]

Mealy-mouthed Rain Man Carson seems like an idiot savant.

 

[bripat9643]

Glass houses.......throw stones.....I'm not rich, but well off, thanks to my choices before I retired. Thanx for your concern, tho'.

Just comfortable enough and already got yours so now you don't care about what's right.

You baby boomers all got 10% on your savings, had good healthcare, pensions, good ss. You did it under a progressive system. Your parents left you money and you were paid a fair wage. You old phucks ruined this country. Lol

It wasn't a progressive system, fool. It was a mixed system, where the scales tipped towards the balance of capitalism which primarily provided the fuel to fund it.
The average muppet, like yourself, expects the scales to tip in favor of socialism, hoping capitalists can continue to fund it, which won't happen, and try to sell it as a mixed system. Furthur regulations based on liberal social justice memes along with redistribution will prohibit that from happening. Enjoy your pipe dream.........and poverty.
I got a tee time early tomorrow...........

I'll be up at my family property this weekend getting ready for hunting season. I'm going to get a new quadrunners this weekend. Have fun on the city course. Do you get the senior discount?

See, that's the difference between my generation and yours.......you depend on your parents, and fortunately, the system used to be stacked, where my generation could create their own wealth and circumstances. Enjoy mommy and daddys' stuff............Bye.......

Your generation didn't even have to have an education to be successful and if you went to school it was cheap. I'm generation x. I know your generation.

That explains your abject stupidity.

 

[bripat9643]

Mealy-mouthed Rain Man Carson seems like an idiot savant.

 

[bripat9643]

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

No they didnt the Nazis were Christians they considered jews arabs asians and every other nationally besides arian to be sub human. Lets be honest of whats going on you guys are right wing extremists you point out a couple of bad muslims and try to damn all muslims as a political scare tatic game. Your so quick to demonize a whole group of people to justify your racist views. You talk about this thing called shirah law like is actually a threat, american muslims do not believe in shirah law. The only muslims that actually want that is isis and more for a way to control than for religion. Just like american Christians dont murder/smite there wicked in cold blood its the same thing, Christians have a form of shirah law as well. No what we do as americans is follow our constitutional laws, common sense and fair jury by our peers. As for what this thread is about Ben carson, he is obviously misinformed, only educated in medicine his comments continue a dialogue of racial bigotry and fear mongering. Ben carson asking for muslims to renounce shirah law is the same thing as asking ben carson to renounce drugs and murder just because he's black. A blatant uneducated racist statement. Oh and pew is a right wing funded organization any chart they putout can be easily be faked to further a political agenda.

It isn't just a couple of Muslims, moron:

 

[g5000]

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

No they didnt the Nazis were Christians they considered jews arabs asians and every other nationally besides arian to be sub human. Lets be honest of whats going on you guys are right wing extremists you point out a couple of bad muslims and try to damn all muslims as a political scare tatic game. Your so quick to demonize a whole group of people to justify your racist views. You talk about this thing called shirah law like is actually a threat, american muslims do not believe in shirah law. The only muslims that actually want that is isis and more for a way to control than for religion. Just like american Christians dont murder/smite there wicked in cold blood its the same thing, Christians have a form of shirah law as well. No what we do as americans is follow our constitutional laws, common sense and fair jury by our peers. As for what this thread is about Ben carson, he is obviously misinformed, only educated in medicine his comments continue a dialogue of racial bigotry and fear mongering. Ben carson asking for muslims to renounce shirah law is the same thing as asking ben carson to renounce drugs and murder just because he's black. A blatant uneducated racist statement. Oh and pew is a right wing funded organization any chart they putout can be easily be faked to further a political agenda.

It isn't just a couple of Muslims, moron:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf

 

[bripat9643]

I just find if funny that you actually think that the US. Constitution gives a woman the right to kill a baby she conceived, no matter what when and how.

The constitution gives a woman the right to control her own body. You insist YOU should be in control of her body.

The court clearly disagrees.

Does it? So if she's suffering from dementia and wants to die, does it give her the right to take a lethal dose of barbiturates?

Apples & oranges. Someone who is mentally incompetent cannot make a rational decision. A pregnant woman who does not want to be is fully capable of deciding that for herself.

Too bad, so sad.

You fail.

I would argue from personal experience that she is capable. Nevertheless, assume she a very painful cancer. Now your argument is idiotic. Actually, it was always idiotic.

You posted a very specific question & you used the word 'dementia', which the medical definition is:

Dementia

Dementia is a loss of brain function that occurs with certain diseases. It affects memory, thinking, language, judgment, and behavior..."

Dementia: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

I am going strictly on what the LAW states... The case of Roe v Wade became the LAW. And I know there are ways to work around the situation you described & that is exactly what women had to do before there was such a law.

Avoiding the issue seems to be a skill with liberal turds.

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

No they didnt the Nazis were Christians they considered jews arabs asians and every other nationally besides arian to be sub human. Lets be honest of whats going on you guys are right wing extremists you point out a couple of bad muslims and try to damn all muslims as a political scare tatic game. Your so quick to demonize a whole group of people to justify your racist views. You talk about this thing called shirah law like is actually a threat, american muslims do not believe in shirah law. The only muslims that actually want that is isis and more for a way to control than for religion. Just like american Christians dont murder/smite there wicked in cold blood its the same thing, Christians have a form of shirah law as well. No what we do as americans is follow our constitutional laws, common sense and fair jury by our peers. As for what this thread is about Ben carson, he is obviously misinformed, only educated in medicine his comments continue a dialogue of racial bigotry and fear mongering. Ben carson asking for muslims to renounce shirah law is the same thing as asking ben carson to renounce drugs and murder just because he's black. A blatant uneducated racist statement. Oh and pew is a right wing funded organization any chart they putout can be easily be faked to further a political agenda.

It isn't just a couple of Muslims, moron:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_22415.pdf

You mean they asked if they wanted Christianity to be the national religion. The poll said nothing about "dismantling the Constitution." That was your moronic addition.

The phrase "make it the national religion" is extremely vague. If they asked whether they wanted to Change the First Amendment, they would get a much different result.

Vague polling questions are the kind you ask when you want a particular result.

 

[g5000]

78 percent of Ben Carson's supporters believe Christianity should be the national religion.

94 percent of Huckabee's supporters do. 94 percent!

So much for the First Amendment!

 

[bripat9643]

So you admit that there are many idiots among the sexually promiscuous. My parents were virgins when they married in 1949. They are still alive -- still married.

Thanks for sharing LOL...you know who would get HIV...kids with hemophilia ...what did they do to deserve HIV....they had transfusions

Not any longer. Clotting fact is now produced using genetically engineered bacteria or yeast (I forget which).

 

[bripat9643]

Carson is now going to find out what happens when people start actually paying attention to the crazy shit he says.
Carson is a doctor who took up politics listening to the rightwing propaganda machine in the media. That much is very clear.

I found his lies about vaccines much more disturbing, to be honest. He belongs to a kook religion just like Muslims do and it kind of goes with the territory that they'd distrust each other.

what lies did he tell about vaccines?

 

[bripat9643]

You liberals out your hypocrisy. Separation of church and state which Islam doesn't allow.

Muslims believe their faith is entwined with the running of government.

Not all Muslims agree with that and not all Christians think this isn't a christian nation.

I would vote for a moderate muslim nut just like i hold my nose and vote for Chrstians every 2 years. I hate it but it seems our society is infected with stupidity just like the arab world.

 

[TexM3]

Islam is a death cult not a religion.