Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

[Ravi]

Carson is now going to find out what happens when people start actually paying attention to the crazy shit he says.
Carson is a doctor who took up politics listening to the rightwing propaganda machine in the media. That much is very clear.

I found his lies about vaccines much more disturbing, to be honest. He belongs to a kook religion just like Muslims do and it kind of goes with the territory that they'd distrust each other.

That's my point. He's got a head full of stupid ideas and now they're spilling out.

He's quite the hypocrite. On the one hand he's perfectly okay with Christian's deciding they don't need to follow the law (Kim Davis). But here he takes the opposite stance on Muslims.

 

[Campbell]

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

They can keep saying it until they're blue in the face.....

But we all know

Being gay is being wrong....

You are born what you are, not what you want to be

Nobody is born a male who automatically becomes peter puffer

They choose too

-Geaux

Nobody chooses to be born. Nobody has anything to say about where they will be born or who their parents will be. Nobody has anything to say about whether or not they will have all their extremities. Nobody has anything to say about what their IQ will be and the range is from moron to genius. Nobody has anything to say about whether they will look like John Travolta or a circus clown. You go ahead and believe that ancient fairy tale about killing homosexuals all you would like but the cold hard facts are that those folks are indeed born that way.

This is not a guess. I had a cousin who was playing with girl's dolls and trying to wear his mother's shoes before he was two years old. His truck driving daddy and older brother nicknamed him "Sissy" before he was four. He lived a miserable life and died of AIDS when he was 55 years old. I have a niece who has been living with the same woman ever since she graduated from college about forty years ago. I watched her "tomboy" habits from the git go. You are wrong with a capital W. Lay that goddamned ancient relic of a book aside and get on the right side of life. Smarter people than you(by a longshot) have researched and determined that indeed one is born the way they are and nothing you or the other right wing, bible thumping haters can say or do will change it. Besides that it's now the law.

When I was in my 20's sixty years ago some of the gang I ran with used to get homosexual men drunk then roll them and take their cash. Every time that shit started I left their miserable asses and went home. When I was in the army in the late 1950's once the cadre figured out that a troop was Gay they mistreated him and caused them all manner of extra difficulty to just get through the training. Thank Goodness people will go to jail for that kind of conduct now. Hopefully, this country will finally begin to live according to the constitution and treat all of it's citizens fairly and equally.

 

[sealybobo]

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

They can keep saying it until they're blue in the face.....

But we all know

Being gay is being wrong....

You are born what you are, not what you want to be

Nobody is born a male who automatically becomes peter puffer

They choose too

-Geaux

Nobody chooses to be born. Nobody has anything to say about where they will be born or who their parents will be. Nobody has anything to say about whether or not they will have all their extremities. Nobody has anything to say about what their IQ will be and the range is from moron to genius. Nobody has anything to say about whether they will look like John Travolta or a circus clown. You go ahead and believe that ancient fairy tale about killing homosexuals all you would like but the cold hard facts are that those folks are indeed born that way.

This is not a guess. I had a cousin who was playing with girl's dolls and trying to wear his mother's shoes before he was two years old. His truck driving daddy and older brother nicknamed him "Sissy" before he was four. He lived a miserable life and died of AIDS when he was 55 years old. I have a niece who has been living with the same woman ever since she graduated from college about forty years ago. I watched her "tomboy" habits from the git go. You are wrong with a capital W. Lay that goddamned ancient relic of a book aside and get on the right side of life. Smarter people than you(by a longshot) have researched and determined that indeed one is born the way they are and nothing you or the other right wing, bible thumping haters can say or do will change it. Besides that it's now the law.

When I was in my 20's sixty years ago some of the gang I ran with used to get homosexual men drunk then roll them and take their cash. Every time that shit started I left their miserable asses and went home. When I was in the army in the late 1950's once the cadre figured out that a troop was Gay they mistreated him and caused them all manner of extra difficulty to just get through the training. Thank Goodness people will go to jail for that kind of conduct now. Hopefully, this country will finally begin to live according to the constitution and treat all of it's citizens fairly and equally.

Anyone who says being gay is a choice is telling you they are bisexual but choose to be straight. I myself am not bisexual. I could never be with another man. And a real gay could never choose to be straight. But a bisexual can choose.

They'll get mad and say they are not bisexuals but that's what their arguments suggest IMO.

 

[Roudy]

Hitler eventually evolved to like Islam better than all other faiths. He thought that Arabs were racially inferior to carry out Islam's true potential.

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

What subject is that. He told the truth and the liberal media is skewering him for it. The fact that Shariah law and the constitution are incompatible goes without saying.

 

[Roudy]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

 

[Roudy]

LMAO when I heard CARE has demanded that Carson withdraw from the campaign

He must be doing something right

-Geaux

Yeah, CAIR the same organization who's leaders have been busted for child prostituon and terror charges are now offended! Ha ha ha ha.


Judge upholds CAIR official’s conviction in terrorism funding case

A Federal court has upheld the conviction of multiple officials with the Council on American Islamic Relations and others for providing funding to a terrorist group.

The Holy Land Foundation trial was the largest terrorism funding trial in American history. CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America and other Muslim organizations were named as un-indicted co-conspirators in the case.

CAIR OFFICIAL ARRESTED IN HUGE CHILD SEX RING BUST IN FLORIDA; ALSO HEADED MUSLIM YOUTH ORGANIZATION

 

[Misty]

You liberals out your hypocrisy. Separation of church and state which Islam doesn't allow.

Muslims believe their faith is entwined with the running of government.

 

[Roudy]

How many Christian leaders run Muslim countries?

Never realized we are a Christian country

Have you read our constitution?

U.S. rule of law founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

Name some

Hint, the Ten Commandments is a good place to start.

Also, the overwhelming majority of our founders were Christian, who wisely seperated church from state, but did not intend to seperate God from state; and then there is this well written piece:

Articles: The Judeo-Christian Values of America

The ten commandments? You sure about that?
1) I am the LORD thy God... Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Now let's look at what the Constitution has to say:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

So, right out of the gate the 1st Amendment destroys your 10 commandments idea.

2) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,

What U.S. law says you can't do that? Oh, right...none.

3) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain

Again I would refer you to the 1st Amendment of the Constitution

4) Remember the sabbath day

The U.S. law that requires that? Right...nonexistent.

5) Honour thy father and thy mother

So far five out of the 10...no U.S. law. What you have is basically "thou shalt not kill" (which we as a country do all the time) and "thou shalt not steal". Do these laws NOT exist in non Christian countries? Yeah, I didn't think so....

That's because you are shallow and ignorant and do not know that the Ten Commandments are the foundation for Western civil law and for that matter Western civilization, morality, and ethics. Thou shalt not lie, steal, covet, bear false witness, commit adultery are what lifted man from being barbaric savages. The five you mentioned have to do with the spiritual well being.

 

[Roudy]

Carson has a right to his opinion, which is line with what most Americans believe.

That's why Obama had to swear up and down a hundred times that he wasn't a Muslim. And based on his actions during his presidency, the jury is still out on whether he lied about that one as he did many things in 08, like when he said he was against gay marriage.

Obama wouldn't have had to swear anything up & down if not for the nutters insisting he was Muslim to begin with (as if that really made a difference CONSTITUTIONALLY considering there IS NO LITMUS TEST FOR RELIGION?)

Obama knew that if he professed his faith to be "Muslim" then that would have immediately deemed him undetectable. So who knows, he may have lied about his faith just to get elected, just like he did about gay marriage.

Or.....you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

Call me strange, but in a contest of who to believe on Obama's faith, I put way more credence in Obama's accounts of his own beliefs than I do you pretending you're Obama.

Well since you seem to be the one who knows **** all about this con artist shyster Obama and his faith, go ahead and tell us how Hussien Oblahblah who not too long ago quoted God and religion as his justification for being against gay marriage suddenly "changed his mind" once he got elected into office. This is why the masses are fed up with politicians and career bullshitters like Obama who say one thing, and then do another when elected.

What a hypocrite you are. The same Bible verse that most of you use to claim that Jesus said marriage should be between one man and one woman also includes his denouncement of divorce and re-marriage. You are a T-chump drooler and T-chump has divorced not once but twice and re-married 3 times, yet you give him credit for having a "traditional" marriage. Same goes for Limbaugh.....adultery is considered a sin, too, so why don't you all condemn both T-chump and Rush Limbaugh?

Because you are a bunch of hypocrites.

And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter. And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery." —Mark 1:1-12

But wait, that doesn't answer why Oblahblah used God and religion as his justification for being against gay marriage BEFORE he got elected in 08, now does it? Just bland accusations and false assumptions.

However you cut it, a man of cloth marrying two men or two women IS an abomination and an insult and mockery of all three major faiths.

 

[Roudy]

Carson is now going to find out what happens when people start actually paying attention to the crazy shit he says.
Carson is a doctor who took up politics listening to the rightwing propaganda machine in the media. That much is very clear.

I found his lies about vaccines much more disturbing, to be honest. He belongs to a kook religion just like Muslims do and it kind of goes with the territory that they'd distrust each other.

That's my point. He's got a head full of stupid ideas and now they're spilling out.

not as bad as what Obama's stupid ideas did to this country and the world.

 

[sealybobo]

No, he always liked Christianity, first and foremost. Protestantism. He hated Catholicism.

His alliances with the Arab world were political and military relationships based on "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". France had a huge presence in Africa, and France was Hitler's number one target of hate.

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

What subject is that. He told the truth and the liberal media is skewering him for it. The fact that Shariah law and the constitution are incompatible goes without saying.

So are the bible and Constitution. Goes without saying. That's why we don't just follow what the bible says to do. See how easy that is?

Just the idea that you christians think all non christians burn in hell should disqualify you from being president. Freaks.

Oh, so now it's Muslims who denounces Sharia law.

Will your candidates denounce all the crazy shit the bible says? Do you really want to go there? I do. I think exposing islamic stupidity is shedding light on Christian stupidity.

 

[sealybobo]

You liberals out your hypocrisy. Separation of church and state which Islam doesn't allow.

Muslims believe their faith is entwined with the running of government.

Not all Muslims agree with that and not all Christians think this isn't a christian nation.

I would vote for a moderate muslim nut just like i hold my nose and vote for Chrstians every 2 years. I hate it but it seems our society is infected with stupidity just like the arab world.

 

[Roudy]

Nope. Hitler and his henchmen fell in love with Islam:

Nazi-era Minister of Armaments and War Production Albert Speer acknowledged that in private, Hitler regarded Arabs as an inferior race[225] and that the relationship he had with various Muslim figures was more political than personal.[225] During a meeting with a delegation of distinguished Arab figures, Hitler learned of how Islam motivated the Umayyad Caliphate during the Islamic invasion of Gaul and was now convinced that "the world would be Mohammedan today" if the Arab regime had successfully taken France during the Battle of Tours,[225] while also suggesting to Speer that "ultimately not Arabs, but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

In speeches, Hitler made apparently warm references towards Muslim culture such as: "The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France".[226]

According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[225] Speer also stated that when he was discussing with Hitler events which might have occurred had Islam absorbed Europe: "Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire."[225]

Similarly, Hitler was transcribed as saying: "Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers [...] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world."[227]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

What subject is that. He told the truth and the liberal media is skewering him for it. The fact that Shariah law and the constitution are incompatible goes without saying.

So are the bible and Constitution. Goes without saying. That's why we don't just follow what the bible says to do. See how easy that is?

Just the idea that you christians think all non christians burn in hell should disqualify you from being president. Freaks.

Oh, so now it's Muslims who denounces Sharia law.

Will your candidates denounce all the crazy shit the bible says? Do you really want to go there? I do. I think exposing islamic stupidity is shedding light on Christian stupidity.

The Constitution was written by devout Christians, who actually used some of the teachings of the Old and New Testament when forming the Constitution. In it they found no conflict between Judeo-Christian values and the Constitution. Keep up.

 

[sealybobo]

One day Christians say Nazis were atheists now you blame Islam? The Germans were Catholic Jew haters

True. But eventually Hitler and the Nazis navigated towards Islam as the faith that best matches their ideology and one that would help propel their militaristic and imperialistic ambitions.

Ben carson is back peddling on this subject. Will you?

What subject is that. He told the truth and the liberal media is skewering him for it. The fact that Shariah law and the constitution are incompatible goes without saying.

So are the bible and Constitution. Goes without saying. That's why we don't just follow what the bible says to do. See how easy that is?

Just the idea that you christians think all non christians burn in hell should disqualify you from being president. Freaks.

Oh, so now it's Muslims who denounces Sharia law.

Will your candidates denounce all the crazy shit the bible says? Do you really want to go there? I do. I think exposing islamic stupidity is shedding light on Christian stupidity.

The Constitution was written by devout Christians, who actually used some of the teachings of the Old and New Testament when forming the Constitution. In it they found no conflict between Judeo-Christian values and the Constitution. Keep up.

Wrong but thanks for trying. Your typical right wing revisionist history doesn't make it true **** off.

A quick google was all it took

A few prominent Founding Fathers were anti-clerical Christians such as Thomas Jefferson, who constructed the Jefferson Bible, and Benjamin Franklin. Others, notably Thomas Paine, who challenged institutionalized religion in The Age of Reason, were deists, or held beliefs very similar to those of deists.

And besides idiot. Back then it wasn't cool to come out and say you don't believe the bullshit coming out of a priests mouth. Today it's completely ok because we all know its bullshit.

I want to have this debate in the GOP debates. I want to know who's really crazy and who's just a little crazy. Chris Christie is not a christian. Not a Huckabee one anyways.

 

[playtime]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

"...Of the 5,922 single bias incidents reported, [2013] the top three bias categories were race (48.5 percent), sexual orientation (20.8 percent), and religion (17.4 percent)..."

Latest Hate Crime Statistics Report Released
Can you do the math? That's 1 in 5 murders based on bias & hate.

 

[jon_berzerk]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

unlike islam

the old testament was replaced with the new testament

 

[Campbell]

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

Stop thinking being gay is immoral, wrong or a sin. It is not. It's natural and thinking its wrong is wrong.

So that is why so many get HIV. It must be reward for their righteous?

They can keep saying it until they're blue in the face.....

But we all know

Being gay is being wrong....

You are born what you are, not what you want to be

Nobody is born a male who automatically becomes peter puffer

They choose too

-Geaux

Nobody chooses to be born. Nobody has anything to say about where they will be born or who their parents will be. Nobody has anything to say about whether or not they will have all their extremities. Nobody has anything to say about what their IQ will be and the range is from moron to genius. Nobody has anything to say about whether they will look like John Travolta or a circus clown. You go ahead and believe that ancient fairy tale about killing homosexuals all you would like but the cold hard facts are that those folks are indeed born that way.

This is not a guess. I had a cousin who was playing with girl's dolls and trying to wear his mother's shoes before he was two years old. His truck driving daddy and older brother nicknamed him "Sissy" before he was four. He lived a miserable life and died of AIDS when he was 55 years old. I have a niece who has been living with the same woman ever since she graduated from college about forty years ago. I watched her "tomboy" habits from the git go. You are wrong with a capital W. Lay that goddamned ancient relic of a book aside and get on the right side of life. Smarter people than you(by a longshot) have researched and determined that indeed one is born the way they are and nothing you or the other right wing, bible thumping haters can say or do will change it. Besides that it's now the law.

When I was in my 20's sixty years ago some of the gang I ran with used to get homosexual men drunk then roll them and take their cash. Every time that shit started I left their miserable asses and went home. When I was in the army in the late 1950's once the cadre figured out that a troop was Gay they mistreated him and caused them all manner of extra difficulty to just get through the training. Thank Goodness people will go to jail for that kind of conduct now. Hopefully, this country will finally begin to live according to the constitution and treat all of it's citizens fairly and equally.

Anyone who says being gay is a choice is telling you they are bisexual but choose to be straight. I myself am not bisexual. I could never be with another man. And a real gay could never choose to be straight. But a bisexual can choose.

They'll get mad and say they are not bisexuals but that's what their arguments suggest IMO.

Actually anyone who tells you being Gay is a choice is full of shit! Think of all the people in the history of the world who had to stay in the closet because they didn't want to be mistreated....or worse.

 

[HenryBHough]

So this morning I heard this CBS (radio) news reporter relating, in tones suggesting deep disgust, that the chatter devoted to his Muslim distrust remarks has inspired high increases in his polling stats.

What a joy to hear!

 

[Roudy]

In other words, it's plain common sense. Muslims view America as the enemy.

Was Carson talking about Muslims that live in the ME? FYI, Muslims that live in America are American citizens.......and unless you can provide some facts (and not some fabricated myth from Briebart NN source) proving that every Muslim views America as the enemy, you are full of corn flakes.

Brother Ben defends his comment by saying the Muslims believe homosexuals must be killed. Surprise, Surprise:


There are 42 death penalty sins in the Old Testament:

1. Murder. Genesis 9:6.
2. Failing to circumcize. Genesis 17:14.
3. Eating leavened bread during the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Exodus 12:15, 19.
4. Smiting parents. Exodus 21:15.
5. Kidnapping. Exodus 21:16.
6. Cursing parents. Exodus 21:17.
7. Negligence with animals that kill. Exodus 21:28-32.
8. Witchcraft. Exodus 22:18.
9. Bestiality. Exodus 22:19.
10. Idolatry. Exodus 22:20.
11. Making holy anointing oil without authorization. Exodus 30:33.
12. Putting holy anointing oil on strangers. Exodus 30:33.
13. Making the holy perfume without being commanded to do so. Exodus 30:38.
14. Defiling the Sabbath. Exodus 31:14.
15. Working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2.
16. Eating the flesh of the peace offering in uncleanness. Leviticus 7:20-21.
17. Eating the fat of sacrifices. Leviticus 7:25.
18. Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the Tabernacle. Leviticus 17:1-9.
19. Eating blood. Leviticus 17:10-14.
20. Incest. Leviticus 18:6-29.
21. Eating sacrifices at the wrong time. Leviticus 19:5-8.
22. Consecration of children to idols. Leviticus 20:1-5.
23. Spiritualism. Leviticus 20:6, 27.
24. Adultery. Leviticus 20:10.
25. Men lying with men in religious prostitution. Leviticus 20:13.
26. Relationship with a menstrous woman. Leviticus 20:18.
27. Whoredom. Leviticus 21:9.
28. Sacrilege. Leviticus 22:3.
29. Refusing to fast on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:29.
30. Working on the Day of Atonement. Leviticus 23:30.
31. Blasphemy. Leviticus 24:24:11-16.
32. Failure to keep the Passover. Numbers 9:13.
33. Presumptous sins. Numbers 15:30-31.
34. Gathering fire-wood on the Sabbath. Numbers 15:32-36.
35. Failure to purify one's self before worship. Numbers 19:13, 20.
36. False prophesy. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.
37. Leading mean away from God. Deuteronomy 13:6-18.
38. Backsliding. Deuteronomy 17:2-7.
39. Stubbornness and rebellion. Deuteronomy 21:18-23.
40. Gluttony. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
41. Drunkenness. Deuteronomy 21:20-23.
42. False dreams and visions. Deuteronomy 13:1-18.

But look at everything else that the OT pretty much says everyone must die for. Homogay sex isn't any worse than adultery or gluttony. Oxyboy Limbaugh should be a dead man twice.

I haven't seen people being killed for being gay or committing adultery other than in Muslim countries. Your argument is dead on arrival.

"...Of the 5,922 single bias incidents reported, [2013] the top three bias categories were race (48.5 percent), sexual orientation (20.8 percent), and religion (17.4 percent)..."

Latest Hate Crime Statistics Report Released
Can you do the math? That's 1 in 5 murders based on bias & hate.

We aren't talking crime rates, and the source. Can you stick to the subject? You liberal nutjobs are always all over the ******* place.

That's why the phrase "Liberalism is a mental disorder" makes sense.

 

[eagle7_31]

I've been saying it, the GOP is truly ******* insane.
Ben Carson Says Muslims Should Be Disqualified From Presidency

A supporter at a Donald Trump created quite a stir on Thursday when, among other incendiary remarks, he falsely claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

But the comment raises an interesting question: What if it were true? Why should it matter if Obama was a Muslim?

On Meet The Press, Chuck Todd posed that exact question to Ben Carson, the retired neurosurgeon who is closely trailing Trump in the polls. Carson said he would not support a Muslim president and that only candidates with a faith “consistent with the Constitution” should be President.

CHUCK TODD: Let me wrap this up by finally dealing with what’s been going on, Donald Trump, and a deal with a questioner that claimed that the president was Muslim. Let me ask you the question this way. Should a President’s faith matter? Should your faith matter to voters?

BEN CARSON: Well, I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter. But if it fits within the realm of America and consistent with the constitution, no problem.

TODD: So do you believe that Islam is consistent with the constitution?

CARSON: No, I don’t, I do not.

TODD: So you–

CARSON: I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.

So what is your problem, other than the fact Carson is a black conservative?