Zone1 Behold the Lamb of God

[Meriweather]

Pascal Lamb: God’s protection
Sacrificial Lamb: Restoring/renewing our relationship with God

In Hebrew, the word ‘sacrifice’ has nothing to do with death. The etymology is nearness, closeness, intimate.

When sacrificing a mammal (such as a lamb), a person would place his hands on the head of the lamb, confess his sins (the animal portion of his own nature) before the animal was humanely slain and its life blood caught in a bowl to take to the altar.

For the Jewish people, sacrifice was about restoring a relationship, drawing nearer, coming closer. It has nothing to do with appeasing an angry God. It can also bring the realization that the death of the lamb or the scapegoat is what sin does to us--the cost of sin is shown in the death of the animal instead of the people.

In Christianity, Jesus is the Lamb of God, our protector, the Word of God renewing our relationship with God.

 

[Meriweather]

Did God seek to punish someone for the sins of the world?

In Judaism, forgiveness of sins did not require a blood offering. A New Covenant (Testament) were known for them. Jesus gave his own blood for the New Covenant of Repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus taught us to discern the will of God and follow it. His final Aramaic words means ‘submission’. It was the Greek/English that switched this to finished, as in a debt being paid. In Judaism Jesus sacrifice, his New Testament, was to bring us closer to God, to change our minds about committing a sin, and submit to the will and teachings of God.

 

[The Duke]

It's not Easter time.
I'll tell ya a lil summin' of a story about all that.
There's no earthly proof readily available I can get a hold of, but it involves Abraham, and Isaac, and God, and Jesus, and Jeremiah.
I guarantee the Jews have the Ark of The Covenant of The Creator of this world.
With Jesus's blood on the mercy seat. God had Jeremiah have the faithful stash that thing (with the 10 Comnmandments in it)
right underneath where Jesus was crucified hundreds of years later, and when that Roman soldier pierced his side, God cracked
the ground open from where Jesus was crucified right to where that Ark was to complete his promise to mankind and Abraham. That was the last altar needed.
Also the temple was done, too. No more sacrifices.
Islam would sacrifice God's world to a false prophet Mohammed with his Moon God Allah.
That's not going to happen on God's earth he created.
Hey, all you Islamists. My God sees what people do all the time every time.
He does not miss what you do at night or when out to sea.
You got away with nothing and these are laws ingrained into this world.
Mohammed is a false prophet and caters to man's most base and depraved desires.
Choosing him is choosing man's/Satan's way. That's not the right way.

 

[Meriweather]

Transubstantiation - Behold the Lamb of God

When a person brought a lamb as a gift, as a sin offering, or for Passover in remembrance of God’s protection over them, his hands were placed on the head of the lamb, and any sinswere confessed. In Catholicism, we confess our sins, we receive the Eucharist (the true body, blood, and divinity of Christ). Jesus was known as the Lamb of God, the Bread that Came Down from Heaven (as did manna), the bread of the presence of God (showbread).

Again, a sin offering (known as sacrifice) in Hebrew means a nearness to God, a closer, more intimate relationship). This relationship is what the sacrifice of the Mass is about, where hearts are changed and God and his people come together.

We are all part of a beautiful story, part of God’s plan for mankind.

 

[jackflash]

Did God seek to punish someone for the sins of the world?

In Judaism, forgiveness of sins did not require a blood offering. A New Covenant (Testament) were known for them. Jesus gave his own blood for the New Covenant of Repentance for the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus taught us to discern the will of God and follow it. His final Aramaic words means ‘submission’. It was the Greek/English that switched this to finished, as in a debt being paid. In Judaism Jesus sacrifice, his New Testament, was to bring us closer to God, to change our minds about committing a sin, and submit to the will and teachings of God.

EXCELLENT!

 

[Cassandro]

Pascal Lamb: God’s protection
Sacrificial Lamb: Restoring/renewing our relationship with God

In Hebrew, the word ‘sacrifice’ has nothing to do with death. The etymology is nearness, closeness, intimate.

When sacrificing a mammal (such as a lamb), a person would place his hands on the head of the lamb, confess his sins (the animal portion of his own nature) before the animal was humanely slain and its life blood caught in a bowl to take to the altar.

For the Jewish people, sacrifice was about restoring a relationship, drawing nearer, coming closer. It has nothing to do with appeasing an angry God. It can also bring the realization that the death of the lamb or the scapegoat is what sin does to us--the cost of sin is shown in the death of the animal instead of the people.

In Christianity, Jesus is the Lamb of God, our protector, the Word of God renewing our relationship with God.

So when and why did animal sacrifice stop? Theologically, was this tied to the destruction of the 2nd Temple? If so, who made this decision? Did it also start/stop before/after the 1st Temple? Will it start up again? Direct answers, please.

 

[irosie91]

So when and why did animal sacrifice stop? Theologically, was this tied to the destruction of the 2nd Temple? If so, who made this decision? Did it also start/stop before/after the 1st Temple? Will it start up again? Direct answers, please.

the ceremonial killing of animals to be consumed by the priests and their families ended with the destruction of the Temple by decision of thee Sanhedrin----
such as it was post 70 AD as far as I know-----It was a decision by the people
considered learned---generally Pharisees---it was---IMO---a kind of rabbinical edict. There
may have been some controversy as to the future and whether people could engage in
the ceremony elsewhere---as far as I know. In general---the elsewhere idea was discarded

 

[jackflash]

Transubstantiation - Behold the Lamb of God

When a person brought a lamb as a gift, as a sin offering, or for Passover in remembrance of God’s protection over them, his hands were placed on the head of the lamb, and any sinswere confessed. In Catholicism, we confess our sins, we receive the Eucharist (the true body, blood, and divinity of Christ). Jesus was known as the Lamb of God, the Bread that Came Down from Heaven (as did manna), the bread of the presence of God (showbread).

Again, a sin offering (known as sacrifice) in Hebrew means a nearness to God, a closer, more intimate relationship). This relationship is what the sacrifice of the Mass is about, where hearts are changed and God and his people come together.

We are all part of a beautiful story, part of God’s plan for mankind.

We are currently witnessing prophecy in the making. I am looking forwards to the hopefully near reunion in our Makers domain. I sure am hoping that there will be creatures in the heavens for I had a bevy of them through the years & they are all still in my heart. Thanks again for the owl avatar like it means a LOT to me!

 

[Crepitus]

Pascal Lamb: God’s protection
Sacrificial Lamb: Restoring/renewing our relationship with God

In Hebrew, the word ‘sacrifice’ has nothing to do with death. The etymology is nearness, closeness, intimate.

When sacrificing a mammal (such as a lamb), a person would place his hands on the head of the lamb, confess his sins (the animal portion of his own nature) before the animal was humanely slain and its life blood caught in a bowl to take to the altar.

For the Jewish people, sacrifice was about restoring a relationship, drawing nearer, coming closer. It has nothing to do with appeasing an angry God. It can also bring the realization that the death of the lamb or the scapegoat is what sin does to us--the cost of sin is shown in the death of the animal instead of the people.

In Christianity, Jesus is the Lamb of God, our protector, the Word of God renewing our relationship with God.

Instead they do a mock human sacrifice every sunday morning.

 

[The Irish Ram]

In the Septuagint, Tetelestai is the Greek word used to translate the Hebrew. It was translated in English to, finished. It is the word used when a debt was paid. It means,"Paid in Full", and was stamped on the receipt once the debt was paid. Jesus'death was our debt being paid. It also can mean to complete, to finish, accomplished. He defeated death, sin and Satan and redeemed our souls on the cross. I have never heard it used to mean submission, though. Christ was victorious on the cross. Does it mean He was submitting, or we are to submit? I'm confused by it.

 

[irosie91]

Instead they do a mock human sacrifice every sunday morning.

decrepit-----if you have nothing to offer----you needn't offer----your quiet presence is
sufficient

 

[Crepitus]

decrepit-----if you have nothing to offer----you needn't offer----your quiet presence is
sufficient

Awesome, no outside opinions wanted.

Which is why I have to offer them.

It broadens your horizon to see it from someone else's point of view.

 

[The Irish Ram]

We are currently witnessing prophecy in the making. I am looking forwards to the hopefully near reunion in our Makers domain. I sure am hoping that there will be creatures in the heavens for I had a bevy of them through the years & they are all still in my heart. Thanks again for the owl avatar like it means a LOT to me!

There are creatures in Heaven we have never seen before. John described some of them. Christ will be riding a horse when He returns. And God doesn't withhold any good thing from us. So, we should be able to have all of our earthy pets for eternity, because pets are a good thing!

 

[Meriweather]

So when and why did animal sacrifice stop? Theologically, was this tied to the destruction of the 2nd Temple? If so, who made this decision? Did it also start/stop before/after the 1st Temple? Will it start up again? Direct answers, please.

Animal sacrifice stopped with the destruction of the Second Temple, as God authorized animal sacrifice only take place in the Temple. Recall, animal sacrifice was only one form of sacrifice. Grain, money, study, prayer were also considered forms of sacrifice. Biblical times were mostly agrarian, which is not always true today. I don't know if animal sacrifice will take place in the Third Temple. Before the First Temple, animal sacrifice took place before the Tabernacle which was in a portable sanctuary.

 

[Meriweather]

Instead they do a mock human sacrifice every sunday morning.

Sunday--and every other day of the week, often twice. However, it is not a mock human sacrifice. Are you aware of the Jewish Passover? It is not only a remembrance but reaching out to participate in the actual (one) event. The sacrifice of the Mass in the same, where we can reach out to participate in the Last Supper and of Jesus giving his life for our redemption and salvation.

You may celebrate your birthday in a similar way. You don't go through a mock birth, you participate (as you are there) in your birth and the years that have followed it.

 

[Meriweather]

In the Septuagint, Tetelestai is the Greek word used to translate the Hebrew. It was translated in English to, finished. It is the word used when a debt was paid. It means,"Paid in Full", and was stamped on the receipt once the debt was paid. Jesus'death was our debt being paid. It also can mean to complete, to finish, accomplished. He defeated death, sin and Satan and redeemed our souls on the cross. I have never heard it used to mean submission, though. Christ was victorious on the cross. Does it mean He was submitting, or we are to submit? I'm confused by it.

The Aramaic word/etymology is submitting. It could be Jesus was saying he was submitting to God's will; or perhaps he was calling everyone to submit to God's will. That is how we draw close to God. Reading the Gospels, we hear Jesus calling us to do the will of the Father. I can't recall any passage where Jesus wants us to draw near to God to be punished.

The second thing that always comes to my mind is that Jesus always told people, "Your sins are forgiven" (present tense). He never indicated that they would be (future tense) forgiven once he took on punishment for them. I fully believe Jesus died for the forgiveness of sins, but trace that back to his message that it is repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Temple leaders of the day were not happy with this message. In that day, Temple revenue (in part) relied on sin sacrifice.

Another part I often reflect upon is the Lamb of God (pascal lamb) represent God's protection. I can also see Jesus' sacrifice as protecting me from sin. How many sins might I have been committing if not for his Gospel message? All of this, along with redemption/salvation, overwhelms me--what Jesus has for us. The nuns used to assure us that Jesus would have done the same thing for each of us had we been alone in the world. I think he would have, too.

 

[BreezeWood]

--the cost of sin is shown in the death of the animal instead of the people.

... howabout instead of the death of an inocent being - the death of the sinner.

 

[irosie91]

Awesome, no outside opinions wanted.

Which is why I have to offer them.

It broadens your horizon to see it from someone else's point of view.

when you have an opinion to offer, I will be interested. DOSES of unrefined
cynicism do not seem like opinions to me

 

[Cassandro]

God authorized animal sacrifice only take place in the Temple.

Did it take place anywhere outside of Jerusalem?

 

[irosie91]

Did it take place anywhere outside of Jerusalem?

by jews? -----no The greeks and romans knocked off hundreds of animals at a clip
in their termples wherever they were------the Mayans killed people