Based on current "intelligence" levels in the USA......ARE we doomed??

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

 

[White 6]

Yep. We are doomed.

 

[toobfreak]

Based on current "intelligence" levels in the USA......ARE we doomed??​

Let me put it this way: Joe Biden is the brain trust of the US intelligence services!

 

[toobfreak]

.....ARE we doomed??​

I would bet my LIFE that every kid in those videos is a democrat who voted for Joe Biden. Now you know how dems get into office.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

What would the democrat party be without brainless lemming imbeciles?

A no show party.

 

[toobfreak]

What would the democrat party be without brainless lemming imbeciles?

I was going to say maybe the republican party?

 

[Esdraelon]

Yep. We are doomed.

It's amazing how quickly they'll learn once reality explodes in their faces. Well... the SURVIVORS will learn. The rest, not so much.

 

[fncceo]

I think it's a little early to start panicking.

When our country was founded, fewer than half of our Founding Fathers were college graduates. They were, however, among the most intelligent and literate men in our nascent country.

Among our "Greatest Generation", fewer than 10% were college graduates, fewer than 40% were high school graduates.

Unfortunately, IQ, rather than being a metric of cognitive ability, is really just a a measure of how well the subject has observed general knowledge.

There are a lot of very smart men and women in our country today, and genius is celebrated in our culture in a way not previously seen. The terms "nerd" and "geek", once pejorative, is now a term of respect and accomplishment.

 

[Batcat]

When I graduated from high school back in 1964, I could have answered the questions asked with the exception of who was the sixteenth President?” I would have guessed Abe Lincoln and I would have been right. I believe most of the students in my class could have also done as well. I attended a public high school in Ohio.

Our public education system has obviously failed us and failed us badly If these videos are not fakes.

In order to have a successful representative democracy or constitutional republic it is necessary to have educated voters with some knowledge of history and civics.

If our youth are as poorly educated as it seems from videos like this we will likely end up living in a Marxist socialist workers’ paradise.

 

[fncceo]

I could have answered the questions asked with the exception of who was the sixteenth President?”

Being able to recite rote learning isn't a measure of intelligence (at least not a very good one). And, to be fair, knowing who was The Sixteenth President, or the 13th, doesn't really have a lot of practical application to every day life.

I don't believe that children today are any less intelligent than we were. I just believe they have been given a different set of information that teachers deemed to be important.

 

[Batcat]

Being able to recite rote learning isn't a measure of intelligence (at least not a very good one). And, to be fair, knowing who was The Sixteenth President, or the 13th, doesn't really have a lot of practical application to every day life.

I don't believe that children today are any less intelligent than we were. I just believe they have been given a different set of information that teachers deemed to be important.

So you don’t think knowledge of civics and history is useful for a voter?

Many of videos like these ask who fought in the Civil War and why? Often people can’t answer those questions. Today we still have issues relating to slavery and the Civil War. For example reparations, Confederate flags, and statues of Confederate generals. I feel it would be helpful for voters to understand history before voting on such issues.

Often after an election there is a movement to do away with the Electoral College. To understand why we have the Electoral College, it would help to have a knowledge of American History.

Today we see the terms Nazi and fascist thrown around loosely. It might help if people understood what those terms really describe.

Now I don’t think the children today are less intelligent then they were when I went to high school. Intelligence is not the problem. The problem, as I see it, is our educational system and its failure.

Some say the problem is that today we teach our youth what to think not how to think.

For example I remember a co-worker who was an engineer who went to a large hardware warehouse and picked up three items which totaled less than $20.

The young cashier totaled everything up on the cash register and asked for more than $50.

The engineer showed her the three items, one for $10, one for $5.25 and the last for $3.50 and asked the cashier how can this total over $50?

She replied, “That’s what the cash register says.” Obviously she had never been taught how to estimate the answer to a math question like I was.

One time my son in law asked five high school stendents to put in correct order the Civil War, WWI, the Revolutionary War, WWII and the Korean War. He had watched the question asked to high school students on Howard Stern.

One said, “Well obviously WWI was the first war“ and went downhill from there. Only one got the order correct, a girl who has recently graduated for chef’s school and now works for a big restaurant.

I see only one reason why kids today can’t be educated to at least the same level I was over half a century ago. To do so would require the schools to impose discipline again.

I searched for a date when the following link was written and the only one I could find was at the very bottom of the article. It was 1984

SCHOOL DISCIPLINE

www.aft.org

 

[SweetSue92]

The average IQ is around 100. So it's not at all difficult to find people with a range of say, 90-110, and in a crowd, say 80-120. Obviously this guy cherry picks like crazy to find the 80 IQ folks and make our system and us and young people look "doomed".

We are actually doomed in a different direction though. The number of special needs children we have in schools now of all types is unbelievable. Just autism alone boggles the mind. And it's not "over diagnosis". it's very real.

 

[SweetSue92]

So you don’t think knowledge of civics and history is useful for a voter?

Many of videos like these ask who fought in the Civil War and why? Often people can’t answer those questions. Today we still have issues relating to slavery and the Civil War. For example reparations, Confederate flags, and statues of Confederate generals. I feel it would be helpful for voters to understand history before voting on such issues.

Often after an election there is a movement to do away with the Electoral College. To understand why we have the Electoral College, it would help to have a knowledge of American History.

Today we see the terms Nazi and fascist thrown around loosely. It might help if people understood what those terms really describe.

Now I don’t think the children today are less intelligent then they were when I went to high school. Intelligence is not the problem. The problem, as I see it, is our educational system and its failure.

Some say the problem is that today we teach our youth what to think not how to think.

For example I remember a co-worker who was an engineer who went to a large hardware warehouse and picked up three items which totaled less than $20.

The young cashier totaled everything up on the cash register and asked for more than $50.

The engineer showed her the three items, one for $10, one for $5.25 and the last for $3.50 and asked the cashier how can this total over $50?

She replied, “That’s what the cash register says.” Obviously she had never been taught how to estimate the answer to a math question like I was.

One time my son in law asked five high school stendents to put in correct order the Civil War, WWI, the Revolutionary War, WWII and the Korean War. He had watched the question asked to high school students on Howard Stern.

One said, “Well obviously WWI was the first war“ and went downhill from there. Only one got the order correct, a girl who has recently graduated for chef’s school and now works for a big restaurant.

I see only one reason why kids today can’t be educated to at least the same level I was over half a century ago. To do so would require the schools to impose discipline again.

I searched for a date when the following link was written and the only one I could find was at the very bottom of the article. It was 1984

SCHOOL DISCIPLINE

www.aft.org

American parents won't put up with "the schools" disciplining their kids anymore.

see: "gentle parenting"

 

[SweetSue92]

Being able to recite rote learning isn't a measure of intelligence (at least not a very good one). And, to be fair, knowing who was The Sixteenth President, or the 13th, doesn't really have a lot of practical application to every day life.

I don't believe that children today are any less intelligent than we were. I just believe they have been given a different set of information that teachers deemed to be important.

The teacher response is:

"We taught that. You were talking."

And for a lot of these bobble heads in the video, you can tell it's true. Sorry, but it's true.

 

[fncceo]

So you don’t think knowledge of civics and history is useful for a voter?

Absolutely. Knowing the events leading up to The Civil War, the time frame and influences both pre and post war are essential to understanding American politics in the 20th Century. Knowing how Congress works, and how it failed to work during Lincoln's administration are equally important.

Knowing that Lincoln was the 16th President, particularly when very few people can name the 15th or 14th without Google, isn't important.

In fact, knowing that The President during and immediately after The Civil War was Lincoln is probably something you should know, but not particularly useful to an understanding of The War itself.

Being able to name all the Presidents in order would be particularly useful to a trivia game, not so much anywhere else.

 

[Muhammed]

I highly suspect that they are cherry-picking the stupid people for those videos.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

We're totally screwed

 

[there4eyeM]

What has passed for education, at least since WWII, has only served to anesthetize students and create a docile, anti-intellectual populace too lazy to think independently. World religions don't help, either, insisting rather on conformity to strictures rather than celebration of a creator's gifts of creative capacities. It is no wonder that simple minded ideologies can take root.

 

[Batcat]

Absolutely. Knowing the events leading up to The Civil War, the time frame and influences both pre and post war are essential to understanding American politics in the 20th Century. Knowing how Congress works, and how it failed to work during Lincoln's administration are equally important.

Knowing that Lincoln was the 16th President, particularly when very few people can name the 15th or 14th without Google, isn't important.

In fact, knowing that The President during and immediately after The Civil War was Lincoln is probably something you should know, but not particularly useful to an understanding of The War itself.

Being able to name all the Presidents in order would be particularly useful to a trivia game, not so much anywhere else.

So we basically agree.

When I was a young kid my mother had a deck of cards with pictures and info about all the Presidents. I learned to recognize their pictures and learned the order of the Presidents. Of course that was 70 years ago, so that portion of my memory has been overwritten numerous times. I can’t remember one time I had a reason to know who the nineteenth President was (Rutherford B. Hayes). It could be argued that my mother heals me learn how to memorize useless facts.

What bothered me most about the majority of the history classes I took back in high school was how they concentrated on dates and events but really didn’t take the time to explain how an incident had effected our current lives and consequently why we should know about it. I did have one excellent high school teacher who make history interesting for me and other members of my class.

The high school gym teacher taught Civics to the senior college prep class in the auditorium. The idea was to prepare us for college if we decided to go. His teaching style was reading the Civics book to us word for word and insisting we take comprehensive notes which he would review. He never took any questions or had any discussions. I feel asleep in that class numerouis times but surprisingly I did learn a lot about how our government works.

In my sixth grade, the principal of my elementary school would teach the morning hours. He started off reading the daily newspaper and discussing what was in it with the class. That was during the timeframe Russia launched Sputnik. He fostered my interest in the news that has lasted my lifetime.

I was fortunate enough to go to a really good high school that had excellent discipline. My high school academically was superior to the high schools in the nearby city. The reason for that was most of the heavy industry was in the county and paid taxes to my school system so we had the best teachers and best facilities.

 

[Batcat]

American parents won't put up with "the schools" disciplining their kids anymore.

see: "gentle parenting"

That is definitely true today.