Bannon may not be the right guy as chief strategist in the WH

[BULLDOG]

Oh stop with the bullshit that Bannon is a white nationalist and an anti semite. It's a lie.

Back in July, Bannon confidently told Mother Jones that Breitbart is "the platform for the alt-right,"

 

[Coyote]

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises - CNNPolitics.com - they see an adovcate in Bannon.

ADL isn't to happy with Bannon....“It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premier website of the ‘alt-right’ — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the ‘people’s house.’”

 

[Auld Phart]

The one thing that can be said about Trumps campaign is that it legitimized and gave a platform to a group that has been largely despised and marginalized. They saw something in Trump that resonated.

However....it's one thing to grant that legitimacy in a campaign and quite another to install it officially in your White House. In a very unusual move, Bannon is being given equal authority to WH Chief of Staff Pribus.

Stephen Bannon, leader of the "alt-right" movement, will now give that fringe group even greater national legitimacy then it had during the campaign.

How does this fit with traditional Republican conservatives...? Not very easily.

This was from August, from a former Brietbart writer:

The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP

Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism.​

From: Stephen Bannon's appointment met with criticism

Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, released a statement on Twitter congratulating Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus' appointment to White House chief of staff, but also denouncing Bannons' appointment.

"It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premiere website of the 'alt right' — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the 'people's house,'" Greenblatt said in the statement. "We call on President-elect Trump to appoint and nominate Americans committed to the well-being of all our country's people and who exemplify the values of pluralism and tolerance that make our country great."

Other organizations, such as Jewish Voice for Peace and the Southern Poverty Law Center, made similar comments.​

Bannon inexorably bound with alt-right, this is not some ideology from his past coming back to bite him, this is his present and this is his present relationship with Trump.

So who is Bannon?
Well, he doesn't like Muslims: He was a big promoter of anti-Muslim extremists, hosing a radio show that show cased their views. He was instrumental in creating an online haven for the propagation of white supremacist wish lists including the legitimization of all kinds of anti-muslim conspiracy theories.

Nor does he much like Jews:
Trump campaign CEO Bannon complained of Jews at daughters' school

(but according to Gingrich that can't possibly be true because he's worked with Goldman Sachs and Hollywood....)

Well, he doesn't think much of blacks. He tries to differentiate himself from the average skinhead by claiming that the alt-right represents a SMARTER, MORE EDUCATED group of people...ok, so he's Smarter-Than-The-Average-Racist. Whatever that means.

And Bannon has made no attempt to distance himself from his creations in any way shape or form.

This is who will have EQUAL power to the Chief of Staff. How long do you think Pribus will stay?

we're sorry, was trump supposed to pass every one of his choices through you?

Are you saying we aren't allowed an opinion? hmmm....guess that's going to be the new world order according to the Trumpettes

Seemed to be a large number on the left that didn't want those on the right to have opinions the last 8 years.

dont' like payback?

Oh really? Pardon me if I can't recall just when I told someone they had no right to pass an opinion on an Obama appointment.

In the meantime, I'll enjoy watching your side trash this country with appointments like Bannon. Except I won't enjoy it. There are certainly plenty of decent picks out there (not sure why you feel it necessary to defend everyone of them to the death) - Bannon is pure crap. And that isn't just a partisan opinion. Even Glenn Beck, one of your long time icons is saying the same thing.

Bannon is pure crap.

gossip and innuendo.

Provide facts, as requested previously

Even Glenn Beck, one of your long time icons is saying the same thing.

Glenn Beck?
no icon of mine.

Listened to him on the radio in the 90s when I went to my moms house.

He was strange then, went to wacky, and has been certifiable for years

 

[jc456]

White nationalists see advocate in Steve Bannon who will hold Trump to his campaign promises - CNNPolitics.com - they see an adovcate in Bannon.

ADL isn't to happy with Bannon....“It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premier website of the ‘alt-right’ — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the ‘people’s house.’”

cnnpolitics. excuse me, cough, cough,

 

[Coyote]

The one thing that can be said about Trumps campaign is that it legitimized and gave a platform to a group that has been largely despised and marginalized. They saw something in Trump that resonated.

However....it's one thing to grant that legitimacy in a campaign and quite another to install it officially in your White House. In a very unusual move, Bannon is being given equal authority to WH Chief of Staff Pribus.

Stephen Bannon, leader of the "alt-right" movement, will now give that fringe group even greater national legitimacy then it had during the campaign.

How does this fit with traditional Republican conservatives...? Not very easily.

This was from August, from a former Brietbart writer:

The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP

Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism.​

From: Stephen Bannon's appointment met with criticism

Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, released a statement on Twitter congratulating Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus' appointment to White House chief of staff, but also denouncing Bannons' appointment.

"It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premiere website of the 'alt right' — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the 'people's house,'" Greenblatt said in the statement. "We call on President-elect Trump to appoint and nominate Americans committed to the well-being of all our country's people and who exemplify the values of pluralism and tolerance that make our country great."

Other organizations, such as Jewish Voice for Peace and the Southern Poverty Law Center, made similar comments.​

Bannon inexorably bound with alt-right, this is not some ideology from his past coming back to bite him, this is his present and this is his present relationship with Trump.

So who is Bannon?
Well, he doesn't like Muslims: He was a big promoter of anti-Muslim extremists, hosing a radio show that show cased their views. He was instrumental in creating an online haven for the propagation of white supremacist wish lists including the legitimization of all kinds of anti-muslim conspiracy theories.

Nor does he much like Jews:
Trump campaign CEO Bannon complained of Jews at daughters' school

(but according to Gingrich that can't possibly be true because he's worked with Goldman Sachs and Hollywood....)

Well, he doesn't think much of blacks. He tries to differentiate himself from the average skinhead by claiming that the alt-right represents a SMARTER, MORE EDUCATED group of people...ok, so he's Smarter-Than-The-Average-Racist. Whatever that means.

And Bannon has made no attempt to distance himself from his creations in any way shape or form.

This is who will have EQUAL power to the Chief of Staff. How long do you think Pribus will stay?

we're sorry, was trump supposed to pass every one of his choices through you?

Are you saying we aren't allowed an opinion? hmmm....guess that's going to be the new world order according to the Trumpettes

Seemed to be a large number on the left that didn't want those on the right to have opinions the last 8 years.

dont' like payback?

Oh really? Pardon me if I can't recall just when I told someone they had no right to pass an opinion on an Obama appointment.

In the meantime, I'll enjoy watching your side trash this country with appointments like Bannon. Except I won't enjoy it. There are certainly plenty of decent picks out there (not sure why you feel it necessary to defend everyone of them to the death) - Bannon is pure crap. And that isn't just a partisan opinion. Even Glenn Beck, one of your long time icons is saying the same thing.

so just curious, did obamacare get passed in open chambers or behind closed doors? your answer is important here.

No. It isn't.

 

[Auld Phart]

Oh stop with the bullshit that Bannon is a white nationalist and an anti semite. It's a lie.

How so?

something that isn't fact. called a lie.

Cool. Disprove then.

Disprove gossip and innuendo?

Wouldn't it be better if you could actually prove it, with facts, not word of mouth?

It's in my OP. Not sure why I should offer more evidence then you guys typically offer ups as proof.

I laughed thru most of it.
You'll have to be more specific

 

[jc456]

we're sorry, was trump supposed to pass every one of his choices through you?

Are you saying we aren't allowed an opinion? hmmm....guess that's going to be the new world order according to the Trumpettes

Seemed to be a large number on the left that didn't want those on the right to have opinions the last 8 years.

dont' like payback?

Oh really? Pardon me if I can't recall just when I told someone they had no right to pass an opinion on an Obama appointment.

In the meantime, I'll enjoy watching your side trash this country with appointments like Bannon. Except I won't enjoy it. There are certainly plenty of decent picks out there (not sure why you feel it necessary to defend everyone of them to the death) - Bannon is pure crap. And that isn't just a partisan opinion. Even Glenn Beck, one of your long time icons is saying the same thing.

so just curious, did obamacare get passed in open chambers or behind closed doors? your answer is important here.

No. It isn't.

and you want to be taken seriously. wow. well, if you learned nothing it's on you. it was signed in behind closed doors with no republican in the building at night. It's documented and you won't acknowledge that. No integrity bubbette

 

[SassyIrishLass]

This entire "alt right" garbage was something Hildabeast stirred up to try and stir up her lukewarm followers....it didn't work then and it's stupid now. I'd bet 10 bucks 99% of America has never heard of alt right and furthermore they don't care. Give it a rest

 

[Coyote]

Are you saying we aren't allowed an opinion? hmmm....guess that's going to be the new world order according to the Trumpettes

Seemed to be a large number on the left that didn't want those on the right to have opinions the last 8 years.

dont' like payback?

Oh really? Pardon me if I can't recall just when I told someone they had no right to pass an opinion on an Obama appointment.

In the meantime, I'll enjoy watching your side trash this country with appointments like Bannon. Except I won't enjoy it. There are certainly plenty of decent picks out there (not sure why you feel it necessary to defend everyone of them to the death) - Bannon is pure crap. And that isn't just a partisan opinion. Even Glenn Beck, one of your long time icons is saying the same thing.

so just curious, did obamacare get passed in open chambers or behind closed doors? your answer is important here.

No. It isn't.

and you want to be taken seriously. wow. well, if you learn nothing it's on you. it was signed in behind closed doors with no republic in the building at night. It's documented and you won't acknowledge that. No integrity bubbette

I don't want to derail this thread into Obamacare, that is a whole different matter and - it can be argued that republicans had ample opportunity to participate but refused because they'd rather block. You want to start a thread on it, and I'll participate. None of which has anything to do with this - opinions about who Trump is choosing (Bannon) for this odd position that will be equal to Chief of Staff.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

You Communists called those whom you hate "tea baggers" for years, now you call them "alt right." The euphemism you employ still boils down to "infidel."

The hate filled left will not tolerate dissent, and is PISSED at the uprising by the little people in fly over country.

Ideology Is a Spitball Fight at a Prep School

More proof is that the Left comprises born-rich snobs, just like the Establishment Right.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ok. So you can't disprove it. All you can do is throw out your silly one-liners.

Let's see. Has Bannon distanced himself in anyway from the his extremists....

Since there is utterly no evidence that Bannon is involved with "extremests," there is nothing to disprove.

What you lack is credibility. Once the Klan (SPLC) decided to label "Focus on the Family" a hate group, it became abundantly clear who the actual hate group and extremists are.

 

[tinydancer]

By the way Richard Spencer and Colin Lidell will be shocked to know they are no longer founders and leaders of Alt right. Man oh man.

I'm confused is the alt right fictional or are these the real leaders of it?

It's called Alternative Right. It's what they called a webzine. Basically it's a blogspot from what I gather.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I find it interesting many on the left are whining because he's "supposedly" an anti Semite....while the left is notoriously anti Semite

Particularly Coyote.

On any given day you and I could be defending the right of Israel to exist and Jews to not be murdered, while Coyote drones on about how Hamas should be able to drive the Jews into the sea - and she has the NERVE to talk about anti-Semites?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The one thing that can be said about Trumps campaign is that it legitimized and gave a platform to a group that has been largely despised and marginalized. They saw something in Trump that resonated.

However....it's one thing to grant that legitimacy in a campaign and quite another to install it officially in your White House. In a very unusual move, Bannon is being given equal authority to WH Chief of Staff Pribus.

Stephen Bannon, leader of the "alt-right" movement, will now give that fringe group even greater national legitimacy then it had during the campaign.

How does this fit with traditional Republican conservatives...? Not very easily.

This was from August, from a former Brietbart writer:

The Breitbart alt-right just took over the GOP

Constitutional conservatives can’t stand the alt-right. Conservatives — real conservatives — believe that only a philosophy of limited government, God-given rights and personal responsibility can save the country. And that creed is not bound to race or ethnicity. Broad swaths of the alt-right, by contrast, believe in a creed-free, race-based nationalism, insisting, among other things, that birth on American soil confers superiority. The alt-right sees limited-government constitutionalism as passé; it holds that only nationalist populism on the basis of shared tribal identity can save the country. It’s a movement shot through with racism and anti-Semitism.​

From: Stephen Bannon's appointment met with criticism

Jonathan Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, released a statement on Twitter congratulating Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus' appointment to White House chief of staff, but also denouncing Bannons' appointment.

"It is a sad day when a man who presided over the premiere website of the 'alt right' — a loose-knit group of white nationalists and unabashed anti-Semites and racists — is slated to be a senior staff member in the 'people's house,'" Greenblatt said in the statement. "We call on President-elect Trump to appoint and nominate Americans committed to the well-being of all our country's people and who exemplify the values of pluralism and tolerance that make our country great."

Other organizations, such as Jewish Voice for Peace and the Southern Poverty Law Center, made similar comments.​

Bannon inexorably bound with alt-right, this is not some ideology from his past coming back to bite him, this is his present and this is his present relationship with Trump.

So who is Bannon?
Well, he doesn't like Muslims: He was a big promoter of anti-Muslim extremists, hosing a radio show that show cased their views. He was instrumental in creating an online haven for the propagation of white supremacist wish lists including the legitimization of all kinds of anti-muslim conspiracy theories.

Nor does he much like Jews:
Trump campaign CEO Bannon complained of Jews at daughters' school

(but according to Gingrich that can't possibly be true because he's worked with Goldman Sachs and Hollywood....)

Well, he doesn't think much of blacks. He tries to differentiate himself from the average skinhead by claiming that the alt-right represents a SMARTER, MORE EDUCATED group of people...ok, so he's Smarter-Than-The-Average-Racist. Whatever that means.

And Bannon has made no attempt to distance himself from his creations in any way shape or form.

This is who will have EQUAL power to the Chief of Staff. How long do you think Pribus will stay?

we're sorry, was trump supposed to pass every one of his choices through you?

Are you saying we aren't allowed an opinion? hmmm....guess that's going to be the new world order according to the Trumpettes

#AlwaysTrump Kevin McCarthy Will Be the New Speaker of the House

So what? You're going down hard. We will bury you. That also goes for wimps like Paul Ryan who apologize to your Masters for Trump's legitimate complaints.

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
Back in July, Bannon confidently told Mother Jones that Breitbart is "the platform for the alt-right,"

Oh sure, he just happened to let that slip to the platform of the alt-left...

 

[BULLDOG]

[
Back in July, Bannon confidently told Mother Jones that Breitbart is "the platform for the alt-right,"

Oh sure, he just happened to let that slip to the platform of the alt-left...

Sounds like he was bragging more than letting anything slip.

 

[BULLDOG]

This entire "alt right" garbage was something Hildabeast stirred up to try and stir up her lukewarm followers....it didn't work then and it's stupid now. I'd bet 10 bucks 99% of America has never heard of alt right and furthermore they don't care. Give it a rest

I guess you're right, just like global climate change was dreamed up by china.

 

[Tilly]

Oh stop with the bullshit that Bannon is a white nationalist and an anti semite. It's a lie.

How so?

something that isn't fact. called a lie.

Cool. Disprove then.

disprove what? your lies? why, you published for all to see. lie after lie.

You are being asked to prove a negative - to prove somebody isn't something i.e. In this case an anti Semite. The onus isn't on anyone here to prove somebody isn't an anti Semite, it's on the person throwing around the vile accusation to prove it's a fact.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sounds like he was bragging more than letting anything slip.

To Mother Jones, the hate journal of the alt-left who has been caught lying repeatedly...

Sure, we believe you....

 

[koshergrl]

Oh stop with the bullshit that Bannon is a white nationalist and an anti semite. It's a lie.

How so?

something that isn't fact. called a lie.

Cool. Disprove then.

disprove what? your lies? why, you published for all to see. lie after lie.

Ok. So you can't disprove it. All you can do is throw out your silly one-liners.

Let's see. Has Bannon distanced himself in anyway from the his extremists....

You know that if you make the claim, it's up to you to *prove*. It isn't up to us to *disprove* that which hasn't been substantiated.

If you can't substantiate it, then there's no need to even discuss it any further.